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Seedersandleechers

(3,044 posts)
Sat May 12, 2012, 02:29 AM May 2012

Kansas lawmakers pass ‘Sharia’ law bill

Source: Kansas City Star

TOPEKA -- A bill that would ban the use of foreign legal codes in Kansas courts — broadly written but particularly aimed at Islamic “Sharia” law — is on its way to the governor.

The 33-3 Senate vote came after a long and at times emotional debate Friday.

Opponents, including two senators who signed the committee report to bring the bill to the Senate floor, called it intolerant and unnecessary.

Proponents fired back that the bill would protect the U.S. and Kansas constitutions and prevent the use of foreign law to take away fundamental rights enjoyed in American courts.

Sen. Tim Owens, an Overland Park Republican who is the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, apologized for putting the Senate in the position of having to vote on the bill, which passed the House 120-0 earlier in the week.


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This really pisses me off. I don't live in Kansas, but I started working in Kansas so I am paying Kansas state taxes. Is Missouri any better? I think so - at least Emanuel Cleaver is my rep (the satan sandwich guy), and at least my Governor is a Dem (last name Nixon though). Shit I dunnno.
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Kansas lawmakers pass ‘Sharia’ law bill (Original Post) Seedersandleechers May 2012 OP
Foreign legal codes, OK bluestateguy May 2012 #1
Must be nice to live in a "Blue State" Seedersandleechers May 2012 #2
What about the Magna Carta? boppers May 2012 #6
They really need to be educated. LiberalFighter May 2012 #12
We need a law against Catholics and Canon Law!!!! Grins May 2012 #16
What about English common law? sofa king May 2012 #18
only Louisiana Danmel May 2012 #19
Oh, you're right! sofa king May 2012 #20
It is so stupid. MuseRider May 2012 #3
it's an election year, so they have to prove a point Blue_Tires May 2012 #25
This is true but this is also Sam Brownback's agenda. MuseRider May 2012 #26
They'll be outlawing witchcraft next. jberryhill May 2012 #4
The Red Scare - Redux n/t agent46 May 2012 #5
The Islamic Republic of Kansas, we just narrowly dodged that bullet. limpyhobbler May 2012 #7
So, I believe this would apply to foreign, ancient Jewish and Jewish derived religious texts, JCMach1 May 2012 #8
all those text written in weird squiggly text greymattermom May 2012 #17
Progressives need to drop some poison pills into these bills JCMach1 May 2012 #22
And Greek -- we can't forget the New Testament! obamanut2012 May 2012 #29
Seriously, we atheists need to get involved with these bills and make sure they ban religion from JCMach1 May 2012 #9
This is a great step. It's about time that they took the bible out of the legislative process! Orrex May 2012 #10
This is EXACTLY why Kansas StitchesforSnitches May 2012 #11
they should have started with.... madrchsod May 2012 #13
I didnt realize kansas was electing that many islamic Garion_55 May 2012 #14
The birth of the Bait and Switch anokaflash May 2012 #15
Aren't most laws based on EC May 2012 #21
There goes the Napoleonic Code ... Quasimodem May 2012 #23
wasting tax $$$ while screaming austerity lunasun May 2012 #24
I would take gov. Nixon any day over the KS governor. n/t RKP5637 May 2012 #27
Does that mean CRK7376 May 2012 #28
And the Republic is saved gratuitous May 2012 #30

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
1. Foreign legal codes, OK
Sat May 12, 2012, 02:35 AM
May 2012

So if, as the article says, it is a broadly written law, I am assuming that would also include Catholic law or Jewish law?

Neither codes have roots in America.

boppers

(16,588 posts)
6. What about the Magna Carta?
Sat May 12, 2012, 04:34 AM
May 2012

What about the part of the US Constitution that grants treaties with foreign nations the weight of law?

Grins

(7,134 posts)
16. We need a law against Catholics and Canon Law!!!!
Sat May 12, 2012, 09:04 AM
May 2012

The conservatives in the Catholic Church, who have had issues with the "American experiment" going back at least to Pope Pius IX, will soon bring back meat-less Fridays in yet another attempt to destroy our Constitution from within and institute Canon law and obedience to that Papist in Rome!!!

And blue-laws. No beer on Sundays while watching football. (Football? On a Sunday? 'Fergetit.)

Not to mention what it could do to Kansas cattle ranchers. Then again, elections have consequences.


sofa king

(10,857 posts)
18. What about English common law?
Sat May 12, 2012, 09:47 AM
May 2012

I believe only Louisiana and New York have civil codes which are based on something other than English common law (owing to their colonization by the French and the Dutch.

Any chance this law will accidentally unravel 150 years of precedent? That could be fun.

What about Indian law? So much Indian land was stolen from Kansas tribes that the reservations there resemble patchwork quilts today. The borders of the historical reservations are much larger than the actual reservations today, and there is still question as to whether or not tribal law applies to tribal members living on historical reservation land, as well as non-Indians doing the same (white people are always eventually excluded from jurisdiction, but it could take decades and thousands of hours of lawyers' fees to settle that question...again... in favor of non-Indians... as usual; worse for Kansans, the criminal motivation which lurks behind all those precedents against Indians might have to be examined in the new light of strict, conservative interpretations of the law... which might actually favor the tribes for once... until they find a way to further erode tribal sovereignty).

American tribal law is not foreign and cannot legally be altered or adversely affected by state governments... but a stupid bill based on an imaginary fear might accidentally expand tribal law.... And that could be fun, too.

MuseRider

(34,058 posts)
3. It is so stupid.
Sat May 12, 2012, 03:00 AM
May 2012

They are not done with redistricting or the budget. Today was supposed to be the last day for them but they have spent all their time on the Brownback social agenda. The funny thing is one of the women who stood up and supported this using women and their rights as her reason for supporting it is also one of the women who voted for all the horrid anti women legislation and another who supported this because "they could stone homosexuals" (a loose quote) is supporting all the anti LGBT legislation. They really know how to work their voters and cloud their real intentions unless someone is really paying close attention, sadly few do and this is one reason we still have these people making our laws.

I know I have been really nervous about all this Sharia Law that has been used here.

Drink up, it is about to get worse. They have next week to really put the screws to us and they will, oh yes they will.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
25. it's an election year, so they have to prove a point
Sat May 12, 2012, 08:02 PM
May 2012

we've seen similar jackassery in Tenn. and Ariz. this week alone...

MuseRider

(34,058 posts)
26. This is true but this is also Sam Brownback's agenda.
Sat May 12, 2012, 10:23 PM
May 2012

Every single thing has come directly from his office. They sign pledges here, all of them. Sam wants us to set the example for the nation and watch out, he is going to run for President again, I would bet my life on it. They are going to do whatever it takes to get his agenda done. They have been warned by numerous budget offices what will happen if they do what he wants. We are going to be so broke there will not be a school left open or a government office with people to man them. BUT they ARE going to do it. Who is there to stop them? The Democrats, what a joke.

They essentially shut down the Senate long enough for the House to get their voting done then there was nothing that the Senate could do with what they got from the House. It is an outrage to democracy but we are certainly not alone in that. People here are outraged about it but still, they will return again and again because the rest of the people pay no attention and Sam is such a good old farm boy doncha know.

We are going down hard and there is no opposition really. A few moderate republicans who fight it but they are being besieged with Koch monied opposition and swift boating kinds of tactics. Many of the Democrats are full in anti woman mode and co-sponsoring anti LGBT legislation. It is almost impossible to find a real Democrat to run here.

As much as I love my state I hate living here right now. Hate it.

JCMach1

(27,544 posts)
22. Progressives need to drop some poison pills into these bills
Sat May 12, 2012, 11:38 AM
May 2012

and watch the fun when they realized they banned the Bible and Ten Commandments!

JCMach1

(27,544 posts)
9. Seriously, we atheists need to get involved with these bills and make sure they ban religion from
Sat May 12, 2012, 07:11 AM
May 2012

being a basis for law... period!

Orrex

(63,084 posts)
10. This is a great step. It's about time that they took the bible out of the legislative process!
Sat May 12, 2012, 07:27 AM
May 2012

I've been complaining about that foreign legal code for decades, because its primitive, bronze age mindset has been poisoning our laws for a very long time.

Bravo, Kansas!

 
11. This is EXACTLY why Kansas
Sat May 12, 2012, 07:53 AM
May 2012

is a fly over state and on the list of states to avoid.

Liberals and progressives who live in Kansas should seriously consider living Kansas or increase their efforts in electing sane politicians.



anokaflash

(53 posts)
15. The birth of the Bait and Switch
Sat May 12, 2012, 08:33 AM
May 2012

Kansas was the beginning of the Right Wing Smear machines bait and switch. Fire up the social conservative to get their votes, then use those votes to pad the pockets of the wealthiest amongst us.

Must watch, Must read 'What's the Matter with Kansas'

http://whatsthematterwithkansas.com/

It's spreading, and still working . . . sad.

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