Polish official 'convinced' that mystery Nazi train exists
Source: AP
WARSAW, Poland (AP) A Polish cultural official says he is "convinced" of the existence of a Nazi train that has been missing for 70 years and which two men claim to have found recently.
Deputy Culture Minister Piotr Zuchowski also warned treasure hunters in southwestern Poland on Thursday to stop looking for the "so-called 'gold train,'" saying it could be mined.
In the 70 years since World War II, local Polish legend has said that a German train filled with gold and other valuables went missing around Walbrzych while fleeing the Red Army. This month two men, a Pole and a German, said they found a train with armaments and valuables, leading to hopes it could be that mystery train filled with treasure.
The Culture Ministry plans an announcement on the matter Friday.
Read more: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/20a2758703d54e66bd09a3a1cc149870/polish-official-convinced-mystery-nazi-train-exists
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)onehandle
(51,122 posts)...which was technologically decades ahead of them in every way.
But the U.S. and UK got much of the brainpower.
happyslug
(14,779 posts)Thus a lot of the early jets of the Soviet Union, while into the 1950s, where designed by teams of Russian and German Engineers. The top Scientists, like von Braun, had access to fuel and cars to escape to American lines, lower level engineers did not have such access and fell in with the Russians. Thus the Soviet Union was competitive with the West as far a non computer technology till it collapsed in 1989. The US and Britain were well ahead of the Germans on computer technology and had been since the 1890s (punch cards were a HUGE improvements over traditional paper records, reducing the counting of the US Census for nine years to a 1 and 1/2 in 1890).
Now, von Braun did have access to IBM computers in the 1950s to design his rockets. something the Russians had to do by hand. It was those old IBM main frames that permitted the US to send a rocket to the moon and to land and return men from the moon.
Side Note: During the period 1944-1950 the two leading ROCKET scientists were in America. Von Braun noted the V2, which is her worked on, had a problem with stability, a problem the American Goddard had solved BEFORE WWII. Goddard's right hand man, a Chinese national, was given a US Colonel Commission and he was the person who decided if someone had knowledge the American needed as to Rockets (he picked von Braun to come to the US). When China fell to the Communists in 1949, he was basically ignored for he appears to have favored the Communists over the nationalists. Anyway, after being FORBIDDEN to return to China from 1950 onward, we exchanged him for a B-29 crew that had been shot down in a spy mission over China. The Joint Chiefs of Staff opposed the exchange, he was considered to dangerous to be handled over the the Chinese. In China he started and developed the Chinese Rocket program and appears to have helped the Russians in the late 1950s till China and Russia became hostile to each other after 1964.
Just a comment, we did get the top brains, but NOT the workers who did the actual work AND we gave up the top Rocket Scientist to the Chinese at the same time.
eppur_se_muova
(36,246 posts)I read this book quite a long while back, it was interesting but I don't remember all the details now.
happyslug
(14,779 posts)More on him:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qian_Xuesen
He was with the Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Goddard competitor in Rocket Research in the US, it is related to Caltech, during the 1940s the Jet Propulsion Laboratory concentrated on Solid fuel rockets while Robert Goddard concentrated on liquid fuel rockets.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jet_Propulsion_Laboratory
Robert Goddard:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_H._Goddard
eppur_se_muova
(36,246 posts)Sunlei
(22,651 posts)load up the trains with loot. Russians got to places like Crimea first, nazis bailed out just before Russians moved in and spent years there.
Didn't they even just recently find some huge horse statue looted from Germany and repainted, but left behind at russian controlled areas.
happyslug
(14,779 posts)brooklynite
(94,264 posts)Presumably it's on train tracks. Presumably you know where your country's train tracks are.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)muriel_volestrangler
(101,258 posts)while they were in charge, which wouldn't be documented.
During the war the Germans dug miles of tunnels into the hills and mountains around Walbrzych. Historians differ on why this was done. Some say they were creating a secret command centre, others say they were underground factories for weapons, while others claim the tunnels were research sites for the atom bomb project. But there are tunnels: some of them very big. At the end of the war the Germans flooded or blew up a number of them. As a result not all the tunnels have been explored.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/world-war-two/11827106/Has-the-Nazi-gold-train-really-been-found.html
Jerry442
(1,265 posts)...where lots (hundreds maybe?) of other companies' railroad cars had disappeared. You might wonder how that could be. Turns out there was no Railroad Bermuda Triangle/Twilight Zone there, just a scheme to steal the cars, repaint them, and sell them.
Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)Oneironaut
(5,477 posts)Taking from that thing (unless if you're bringing the gold to a museum) is like taking something from Satan.
NBachers
(17,063 posts)The money from that gold has to come with some heavy payback attached to it.
Jerry442
(1,265 posts)...if it were to happen, it would be here.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)it's not LIKE recovering stolen property, it IS recovering stolen property.
Reter
(2,188 posts)Whoot whoot!