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Wed May 9, 2012, 12:19 PM

GOP Newsletter In Virginia Advocates For Armed Rebellion If American People Re-Elect President Obama

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GOP Newsletter In Virginia Advocates For Armed Rebellion If The American People Re-Elect President Obama

The Republican Party seems to already be sensing that they will be miserably defeated on Election Day this November. So as a back-up plan, a Republican newsletter in Virginia is openly calling for violently overthrowing the duly elected government of the United States should Democrats still be in charge.

The newsletter, known as “The Constitutional Conservatives” was published in March by the Greene County, Virginia Republican Committee and it included a column titled “Whitehouse Watchdog” written by editor Ponch McPhee. In the column, Mcphee trashed President Obama and said that if the American people fail to elect a Republican government, conservatives should arm themselves and take back the government by force. Here’s the text via Right Wing Watch.


“We have before us a challenge to remove an ideologue unlike anything world history has ever witnessed or recognized. An individual who has come to power within a Nation which yields it’s strength over the entire world. An elected leader who shuns biblical praise, handicaps economic ability, disrespects the honor of earned military might. In the coming days and weeks ~ we the people must come to grasp as a common force, our very soul’s, that our future as a sovereign nation is indeed at risk. If every single individual that you know, would contact 25 other individuals ~ we can make a difference that will be heard across the Commonwealth and in Washington. The ultimate task for the people is to remain vigilant and aware ~ that the government, their government is out of control, and this moment, this opportunity, must not be forsaken, must not escape us, for we shall not have any coarse {SIC} but armed revolution should we fail with the power of the vote in November ~ This Republic cannot survive for 4 more years underneath this political socialist ideologue.”



This isn’t the first time that Republicans have threatened armed rebellion if they lose a legal election. Back in 2010 Nevada Senate candidate Sharon Angle suggested “second amendment remedies” if the election didn’t go well for the GOP. And then there’s Texas GOP congressional candidate Stephen Broden. He stated that armed insurrection was “on the table” if voters didn’t elect Republicans in 2010. During that election year, Republicans basically held the American electorate hostage by threatening death and violence if the election didn’t go the way Republicans wanted it to.



Read more: http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/05/08/gop-newsletter-in-virginia-advocates-for-armed-rebellion-if-the-american-people-re-elect-president-obama/



Hat-tip to: http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/gop-newsletter-calls-armed-revolution-if-obama-re-elected

sedition
noun
1. incitement of discontent or rebellion against a government.
2. any action, especially in speech or writing, promoting such discontent or rebellion.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sedition


Sedition
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In law, sedition is overt conduct, such as speech and organization, that is deemed by the legal authority to tend toward insurrection against the established order. Sedition often includes subversion of a constitution and incitement of discontent (or resistance) to lawful authority. Sedition may include any commotion, though not aimed at direct and open violence against the laws. Seditious words in writing are seditious libel. A seditionist is one who engages in or promotes the interests of sedition.

Typically, sedition is considered a subversive act, and the overt acts that may be prosecutable under sedition laws vary from one legal code to another. Where the history of these legal codes has been traced, there is also a record of the change in the definition of the elements constituting sedition at certain points in history. This overview has served to develop a sociological definition of sedition as well, within the study of state persecution.

The difference between sedition and treason consists primarily in the subjective ultimate object of the violation to the public peace. Sedition does not consist of levying war against a government nor of adhering to its enemies, giving enemies aid, and giving enemies comfort. Nor does it consist, in most representative democracies, of peaceful protest against a government, nor of attempting to change the government by democratic means (such as direct democracy or constitutional convention).

Sedition is the stirring up of rebellion against the government in power. Treason is the violation of allegiance to one's sovereign or state, giving aid to enemies, or levying war against one's state. Sedition is encouraging one's fellow citizens to rebel against their state, whereas treason is actually betraying one's country by aiding and abetting another state. Sedition laws somewhat equate to terrorism and public order laws.

More:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sedition


More TeaTerror:

http://tinyurl.com/TeaTerror
http://tinyurl.com/TeaTerror2


See also:

The Outsiders (The Rise of 'Isolated Incidents' of Right-Wing Violence)



This mash-up is about right-wing violence and media figures who enable it. Set to a remix of three different versions of "The Outsider" by A Perfect Circle, this project has been greatly aided by David Neiwert's spectacular blogging on the subject here. I also used several clips downloaded from this site, so it was literally impossible to make this without everyone here. Thanks to all of my fellow C & L'ers, and I hope they enjoy Maynard Keenan's singing as much as I do.
http://www.facebook.com/notes/crooks-and-liars/the-rise-of-isolated-incidents-of-right-wing-violence/10150329972870540


"To the Victims of This Tragedy We Send Our Thoughts and Prayers" by Roy Zimmerman





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Reply GOP Newsletter In Virginia Advocates For Armed Rebellion If American People Re-Elect President Obama (Original post)
Ian David May 2012 OP
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Response to Ian David (Original post)

Wed May 9, 2012, 12:20 PM

1. What part?

Of this is shocking to any of us?
These halfwits have been scream over nothing for years now.

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Response to Crow73 (Reply #1)

Wed May 9, 2012, 01:05 PM

12. Facebook fail

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Response to Ian David (Original post)

Wed May 9, 2012, 12:24 PM

2. These people are so dumb that I don't even think they are dangerous. nt

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Response to Ian David (Original post)

Wed May 9, 2012, 12:32 PM

3. the funny thing is just wait till Hilary runs in

2016. they will forget all about president obama and it will be mrs. clinton that is the worst thing to come along.

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Response to Ian David (Original post)

Wed May 9, 2012, 12:39 PM

4. for we shall not have any *coarse* but armed revolution

smooth.

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Response to Roland99 (Reply #4)

Wed May 9, 2012, 12:48 PM

6. Hey now, that's just rude

as in coarse is another word for rude.

What a bunch o' morans.

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Response to Ian David (Original post)

Wed May 9, 2012, 12:45 PM

5. Two more definitions:

coarse
   
adjective, coars·er, coars·est.
1. composed of relatively large parts or particles: The beach had rough, coarse sand.
2. lacking in fineness or delicacy of texture, structure, etc.: The stiff, coarse fabric irritated her skin.
3. harsh; grating.
4. lacking delicacy, taste, or refinement; unpolished: He had coarse manners but an absolutely first-rate mind.
5. of inferior or faulty quality; common; base.

course

noun, verb, coursed, cours·ing.
noun
1. a direction or route taken or to be taken.
2. the path, route, or channel along which anything moves: the course of a sewage spill.
3. advance or progression in a particular direction; forward or onward movement.
4. the continuous passage or progress through time or a succession of stages: in the course of a crushing defeat; in the course of the lost election.
5. the track, ground, water, etc., on which a race is run, sailed, etc.: The Republican failed to complete the course because he ran himself over.

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Response to Ian David (Original post)

Wed May 9, 2012, 12:50 PM

7. Pardon my language, but these idiots are a bunch of

twatnozzles.

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Response to Ian David (Original post)

Wed May 9, 2012, 12:50 PM

8. Confiscate their guns immediately

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Response to Ian David (Original post)

Wed May 9, 2012, 12:53 PM

9. It's time to start charging these idiots with SEDITION.

In law, sedition is overt conduct, such as speech and organization, that is deemed by the legal authority to tend toward insurrection against the established order.


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sedition

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Reply #9)

Wed May 9, 2012, 12:59 PM

10. But that might look bad in an election year. They'd claim Obama was being a tyrant...

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... clamping-down on "free speech."

Perhaps a better solution would be to declare that people engaging in Sedition are no longer entitled to the protections of law enforcement, so if anyone feels threatened by these people, they will face no repercussions if they defend their country against them.

It would sort of be fighting speech with speech.

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Response to Ian David (Original post)

Wed May 9, 2012, 01:00 PM

11. Greene County? No surprise.

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When I saw that this came from Greene County, I immediately thought of the "racial-nationalist" Kevin Alfred Strom.

Arrest, conviction, prison and release

On January 4, 2007, Strom was arrested in Greene County, Virginia on charges of possession of child pornography and witness tampering. The Grand Jury later added the charges of receiving child pornography and of seeking to coerce a 10-year-old into a sexual relationship. At the October 2007 federal trial on charges of sexually coercing a 10-year old girl, and of witness intimidation, the judge threw out both charges due to lack of evidence.

At the plea hearing on January 14, 2008, Strom pleaded guilty to possessing computer images of child pornography and was held at Albemarle-Charlottesville Regional Jail while awaiting sentencing. On 21 April 2008, he was sentenced to 23 months of incarceration, with credit for times served, and 15 years of supervised release. He was released from prison on September 3, 2008 and currently resides in Earlysville, Virginia.


Years ago, I briefly lived in Earlysville. Fellow residents included George Allen, who now lives near Mount Vernon. Earlysville is hardly any distance from Stanardsville, the county seat of Greene County. Kevin Alfred Strom's website used to have pictures of him next to an old Cadillac in front of the county courthouse. I don't see those pictures at his website now.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earlysville,_Virginia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanardsville,_Virginia

Kevinalfredstrom.com
http://www.kevinalfredstrom.com/
http://www.kevinalfredstrom.com/art/v/personal/

The ARRL still gives the address of record for his call sign, WB4AIO, as Earlysville. Strom shows up frequently at the Google group rec.radio.shortwave.

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Reply #11)

Wed May 9, 2012, 01:15 PM

16. Green County

Green County has changed dramatically over the past 10 years. It is now becoming a bedroom community for the City of Charlottesville. This guy is not only upset at Obama but I guarantee you he is upset at the fact that his good ole county is getting a lot more urban and therefore a lot more "liberal" then he would like. The Charlottesville area is one of the areas that helped carry Obama in Virginia in 2008 and it will be in play in November as well. It saddens me that the state that I grew up in and still live in has such nut bags running around. I have always feared that a second term for Obama will involve some sort of attempt on his life because some of these nut bags have worked themselves into such a frenzy that they will take such a drastic step.

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Response to Ian David (Original post)

Wed May 9, 2012, 01:07 PM

13. Come now, can't you see that's just plain metaforicly speekin'?



Now they're just rubbing our noses in our "liberally-biased media" ...

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Response to Ian David (Original post)

Wed May 9, 2012, 01:08 PM

14. the republican party should be put on the terrorist list

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Response to Ian David (Original post)

Wed May 9, 2012, 01:09 PM

15. This is why we must legally ban the GOP

Use existing RICO statutes to do so. Then we can have real political activism, not this corporate backed republicanist warmongering tactics.

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Response to Ian David (Original post)

Wed May 9, 2012, 01:17 PM

17. Hell, let 'em go

Let's see, a teabagger society:

No protection from corporate exploitation

Health care only for those that can afford it
No taxes, so everytime you want to drive on ANY stretch of road you have to pay a fee
No public schools
Fire departments that only come if you pay them
Police that only come if you pay them
No environmental protection
Jail for those who have sex out of wedlock
No abortions
The Ten Commandments posted pretty much everywhere
Guns all over the fucking place
And finally, the red state anti tax loons would actually have to pay their fair share and stop mooching off the blue states.

Sounds a lot like the Articles of Confederation to me, and we all know how well those worked. I give such a state ten years tops. And I think, I'm being VERY generous with that estimate.

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Response to Downtown Hound (Reply #17)

Wed May 9, 2012, 01:27 PM

18. public services

You forgot Public Water, Sewer, Libaries. Parks, sidewalks, Court Systems. Also the return of debtor prisons if you can't pay your bills. The teabaggers havent a clue just how bad it would be if they let their corporate masters have thier way.

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Response to Downtown Hound (Reply #17)

Wed May 9, 2012, 06:04 PM

24. That is correct

My family talk of this in jest. Give them their own "utopia" and see how fast those motherfuckers start crawling the walls?

You wanted it, deal with it, idiots!

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Response to Ian David (Original post)

Wed May 9, 2012, 01:48 PM

19. It is we that need to be vigilant.

Remember that the good Germans thought Hitler was an idiot too and blew him off....and they lived to regret it.
These people have power behind them with Fox and friends to promote their trash...and once the stormtroopers hit the street it will be to late.

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Response to zeemike (Reply #19)

Wed May 9, 2012, 02:57 PM

20. I'm not a violent person, myself, but...

If the right-wing thinks that they are the only armed citizens, they are in for a surprise.

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Response to zeemike (Reply #19)

Wed May 9, 2012, 03:03 PM

21. Exactly

There are many groups out there who have become increasingly angry thanks to Fox "News" and its constant propaganda. If we don't take them seriously, we are in the greatest danger. These people might be stupid, but they're not unintelligent.

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Response to Ian David (Original post)

Wed May 9, 2012, 03:11 PM

22. If it happens

 

Will they make Ted Nugent a General?

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Response to Ian David (Original post)

Wed May 9, 2012, 04:53 PM

23. Ah, yes, the good old GOP in Virginia

Otherwise known as "Al Qaeda in the Old Dominion"

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Response to Ian David (Original post)

Wed May 9, 2012, 07:34 PM

25. My husband will then have to kill me, both his children, his son-in-law.

niece, and nephew. Do they think people will do that? Do they assume that all their family members think like they do?

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Response to Ian David (Original post)

Thu May 10, 2012, 09:26 AM

26. locking addictinfo not a legit news source for LBN story already posted in GD and

politics 2012

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