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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 07:17 PM Jul 2015

Talks for Pacific Trade Deal Stall at a Critical Step

Source: New York Times

LAHAINA, Hawaii — Trade negotiators from the United States and 11 other Pacific nations were headed toward failure Friday, with difficult talks on the largest regional trade agreement ever breaking down over protections for pharmaceutical companies and access to agriculture markets on both sides of the Pacific.

Negotiators will return to their home countries to obtain high-level signoffs for a small number of final sticking points on the agreement, the Trans-Pacific Partnership, with bilateral talks reconvening soon.

But the breakdown is a setback for the Obama administration, which had promoted the talks here as the final round ahead of an accord that would bind 40 percent of the world’s economy under a new set of rules for commerce.

President Obama’s trade push had been buoyed by Congress’s narrow passage in June of “fast track” trade negotiating powers, and American negotiators had hoped other countries could come together once Congress had given up the right to amend any final agreement.

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/01/business/tpp-trade-talks-us-pacific-nations.html?_r=0

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Talks for Pacific Trade Deal Stall at a Critical Step (Original Post) Purveyor Jul 2015 OP
Good. djean111 Jul 2015 #1
Evil Asian nations protecting pharmaceutical companies over people fbc Jul 2015 #2
Boo-hoo! RufusTFirefly Jul 2015 #3
"Negotiations will push the U.S. ratification fight into 2016, a presidential election year." Auggie Jul 2015 #4
And "Reelection" year for Congress shills who voted against their constituents interests and wishes. stuffmatters Aug 2015 #19
one can only hope- ruffburr Jul 2015 #5
the US benefits the most from their trade deals admonish Aug 2015 #21
this is the ticket to the darkest pits of hell and frankly, I think Mr. Obama earned one. roguevalley Jul 2015 #6
This as never been about free trade from the get go. It's about US companies protecting their Monk06 Jul 2015 #7
Absolutely and when congress passed the TPA that put these other countries on the hook. They jwirr Jul 2015 #13
Keep on breakin' down, TPP! villager Jul 2015 #8
from your keyboard to the divine irisblue Jul 2015 #12
Finally, some good news. eom. Scruffy1 Jul 2015 #9
Let it be stalled JackInGreen Jul 2015 #10
Cry Me A River 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #11
115 comments beltanefauve Aug 2015 #14
Rec'ing for the stall. snot Aug 2015 #15
I hope it steps off a cliff. nt silvershadow Aug 2015 #16
Good!! eridani Aug 2015 #17
Oh, this is just terrible davidpdx Aug 2015 #18
They will be a TPP deal. There no way they will all give up on this. DCBob Aug 2015 #20
perhaps all the countries will have to let the Drug Corps set their own prices and remove Drug Corps Sunlei Aug 2015 #22
Whoohoo for Failure! lark Aug 2015 #23
OK, I know I'm celebrating prematurely. lark Aug 2015 #24
 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
1. Good.
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 07:26 PM
Jul 2015
Australia, Chile and New Zealand also continue to resist the United States push to protect the intellectual property of major pharmaceutical companies for as much as 12 years, shielding them from generic competition as they recoup the cost of developing next-generation “biologic” medicines.
 

fbc

(1,668 posts)
2. Evil Asian nations protecting pharmaceutical companies over people
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 07:26 PM
Jul 2015

Oh wait, no, that's us. We are the bad guys.

Auggie

(31,161 posts)
4. "Negotiations will push the U.S. ratification fight into 2016, a presidential election year."
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 07:30 PM
Jul 2015

YES! We need debate on this, and what better venue is there than Presidential debates?

stuffmatters

(2,574 posts)
19. And "Reelection" year for Congress shills who voted against their constituents interests and wishes.
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 04:58 AM
Aug 2015

I'd read reports that petitions, letters, calls, emails were running as high as 100 to one against fast track & these T agreements.Yet all Repubs along with enough Wall Street Dems pushed through fast track & set up approval of the following T agreements.

I know I won't be voting again for my Rep Scott Peters. I wouldn't vote for Feinstein ever again either, but I heard she's not running again.

And wow if Ron Wyden were my senator, I'd sure be looking for another Dem to support in 2016. Wyden was the lynchpin Democratic turncoat and enabler of this surrender of our sovereignty to global corporate, unchallengeable kangaroo courts.


ruffburr

(1,190 posts)
5. one can only hope-
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 07:31 PM
Jul 2015

This deal collapses under its own weight, Would save the world not to mention the U.S.

admonish

(57 posts)
21. the US benefits the most from their trade deals
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 08:55 AM
Aug 2015

....admittedly, not 'merican citizens so much but definitely american based multinationals...especially big pharma and the dirty industrials...the reason obama supports this, imo, is because it will move the american economy forward as a whole....downward pressure on wages is there with or without this deal and upward pressure from the poorer countries is there as well...my opinion is that north american wages will rebound only when the poorer countries get theirs

Monk06

(7,675 posts)
7. This as never been about free trade from the get go. It's about US companies protecting their
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 07:50 PM
Jul 2015

industries from competition and avoiding environmental and consumer regulations in other countries.

In other words it's about trade protectionism the opposite of what it is called.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
13. Absolutely and when congress passed the TPA that put these other countries on the hook. They
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 10:40 PM
Jul 2015

are the only ones who can stop this unless our congress finally understands how bad this really is.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
11. Cry Me A River
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 10:00 PM
Jul 2015

So US pharmaceutical corporations are strangling the TPP in it's crib with their unabated greed!?!

That's the sweetest irony I've encountered in a l-o-o-o-n-g time

beltanefauve

(1,784 posts)
14. 115 comments
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 12:20 AM
Aug 2015

And only three were in favor of the TTP.

Two of those seemed like they were written by lobbyists or paid shills.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
20. They will be a TPP deal. There no way they will all give up on this.
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 07:36 AM
Aug 2015

Sounds like a negotiating tactic and also posturing to send a message to their constituents that they are trying to get the best deal possible.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
22. perhaps all the countries will have to let the Drug Corps set their own prices and remove Drug Corps
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 09:04 AM
Aug 2015

'agreements'from all the trade deals.

If that's the only part holding the deal back.

lark

(23,091 posts)
23. Whoohoo for Failure!
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 03:30 PM
Aug 2015

Whoohoo for destroying the pharmacy companies wet dreams of raising prices all over the world and ending the days of quick generic version. Whoohoo for no corporate courts overriding local labor and environmental laws.



to Australia

lark

(23,091 posts)
24. OK, I know I'm celebrating prematurely.
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 03:35 PM
Aug 2015

Big pharma is not going to give up and neither are the other multinationals. It's just so good to get some happy news for a change on this topic that I just wanted to celebrate for a moment.

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