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onehandle

(51,122 posts)
Sun Jul 26, 2015, 08:48 PM Jul 2015

Rick Perry: Allowing Guns In Movie Theaters Would Prevent Shootings

Source: Huffington Post

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Former Texas Gov. Rick Perry (R) claimed that if people could bring their guns to the movies, they could have prevented the movie theater shooting in Lafayette, Louisiana, Thursday evening.

"These concepts of gun-free zones are a bad idea. I think that you allow the citizens of this country -- who have been appropriately trained, appropriately backgrounded, know how to handle and use firearms -- to carry them," he told CNN’s Jake Tapper Sunday. “I believe that, with all my heart, that if you have the citizens who are well trained, and particularly in these places that are considered to be gun-free zones, that we can stop that type of activity, or stop it before there's as many people that are impacted as what we saw in Lafayette."

Such a provision “makes a lot of sense” under the Second Amendment, the 2016 presidential hopeful said.

When Tapper asked if that solution would be more effective than strengthening gun control laws, Perry pushed argued that the problem in Lafayette and the recent shooting in Charleston, South Carolina, is a lack of enforcement.

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/rick-perry-guns_55b5604de4b0a13f9d18e3eb



I called it...

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Rick Perry: Allowing Guns In Movie Theaters Would Prevent Shootings (Original Post) onehandle Jul 2015 OP
yeah.... V0ltairesGh0st Jul 2015 #1
wtf ?? allan01 Jul 2015 #2
Telling someone to be quiet with a "shhhh..." ejbr Jul 2015 #3
Didn't an ex-cop shoot someone in a theater about a year ago? Something to do with A Simple Game Jul 2015 #9
He claimed self defense - his victim threw a dangerous bag of popcorn at him. George II Jul 2015 #19
I live not far from that theater shenmue Jul 2015 #36
What? rickford66 Jul 2015 #4
Coupled with beer at the concession stand, naturlich... jmowreader Jul 2015 #5
Yes, TexasTowelie Jul 2015 #6
The two victims were shot, without warning in the back of the head Adenoid_Hynkel Jul 2015 #7
We need more gun nuts to keep us safe from the gun nuts Major Nikon Jul 2015 #10
The R's think they are Paladin. Elmer S. E. Dump Jul 2015 #52
I remember that show! gregcrawford Jul 2015 #62
Richard Boone, I believe. Elmer S. E. Dump Jul 2015 #63
AHA! You're absolutely right! gregcrawford Jul 2015 #64
OK, it's time the rest of the world puts a fence around this country sarge43 Jul 2015 #8
....sheeze.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #11
classic! restorefreedom Jul 2015 #47
Yes more guns, what could go wrong with that in a dark movie theater. Exultant Democracy Jul 2015 #12
movie theaters have lost my business forever thanks to Perry giving the murder-suiciders ideas Sunlei Jul 2015 #13
Wonder if he has ever seen a gang war. Both sides have guns and it only makes it worse. BTW jwirr Jul 2015 #14
Can you visualize everyone having a gun and them everyone starts shooting after the first shot n/t. airplaneman Jul 2015 #42
In the dark with no one knowing who the enemy is or even where he is. IMO that is the stupidest jwirr Jul 2015 #43
I live in Georgia and I'm seeing more and more young people with guns strapped on their sides. YOHABLO Jul 2015 #15
Whenever I see a civilian with a gun and they are not heading into a gun range or hunting... onehandle Jul 2015 #18
yep Locrian Jul 2015 #51
What a moron. BeanMusical Jul 2015 #16
In the pocket of the NRA. truthisfreedom Jul 2015 #17
Stink finger C_U_L8R Jul 2015 #20
A broken clock is right twice a day... Kang Colby Jul 2015 #21
What would a 'concealed carry permit holder' have done to stop a person who shot people... onehandle Jul 2015 #23
Who knows? Kang Colby Jul 2015 #28
Everyone knows that guns should be worshiped. Darb Jul 2015 #58
Rick was a D and C student at Texas A & M University. DhhD Jul 2015 #22
The Worst Part Is: The Republicans Don't Care. nt Herman4747 Jul 2015 #29
for him to have gotten those good of grades, he would have had to cheat. olddad56 Jul 2015 #70
"Good Guy with a Gun" Had Day Off During Louisiana Shooting EEO Jul 2015 #24
I wasn't aware guns weren't allowed in movie theaters. I thought in most states it was up to MillennialDem Jul 2015 #25
God give me strength... Peacetrain Jul 2015 #26
Sigh.... Lobo27 Jul 2015 #27
Yes,not that there's a problem with guns but the solution is more guns underpants Jul 2015 #30
Are guns allowed at Perry's campaign rallies? Mr.Bill Jul 2015 #31
They have so jumped the shark as to their idiocacy regarding guns kimbutgar Jul 2015 #32
Glad I live close to the border.... Capt.Rocky300 Jul 2015 #33
For four days, I actually kind of respected Rick Perry(after he called out Trump on racism) Ken Burch Jul 2015 #34
It will be so safe bucolic_frolic Jul 2015 #35
It didn't help last week, Governor Dumbass shenmue Jul 2015 #37
A hot, darkened room...fifty or sixty people with loaded guns... Ken Burch Jul 2015 #38
From one of the latest toon threads davidpdx Jul 2015 #39
Guns and wars are the answer. moondust Jul 2015 #40
I don't think Medicare was a terrible idea. Capt.Rocky300 Jul 2015 #41
Of course it wasn't. moondust Jul 2015 #44
Well stated, my friend. MyOwnPeace Jul 2015 #66
i think howard wolowitz said it best restorefreedom Jul 2015 #45
Funny how the NRA had gun free douggg Jul 2015 #46
Scientific experiment usafvet65 Jul 2015 #48
We already know what will happen. It's called friendly fire. sarge43 Jul 2015 #49
Exactly sarge43 usaf-vet Jul 2015 #55
Goodhair is too stupid to be the GOP nominee Gothmog Jul 2015 #50
Those glasses don't even make him look smarter. And even if they did, his mouth undoes... marble falls Jul 2015 #53
Here Gov. check this out: Doc_Technical Jul 2015 #54
"The only way to stop a BAD person with a gun is a GOOD person with a gun...and night-vision goggles brooklynite Jul 2015 #56
Required would be even better. Darb Jul 2015 #57
A Firefight RobinA Jul 2015 #59
Because the Wild West was such a gentle, non-violent period of history. tclambert Jul 2015 #60
must wear to the movies now SummerSnow Jul 2015 #61
I wonder if Rick's idea would work on airplanes or schools or pro football games or Congress? EndElectoral Jul 2015 #65
DUH!!!!! MyOwnPeace Jul 2015 #67
Let's see, providing for a well-regulated militia Zambero Jul 2015 #68
Gee Rick, if carrying guns will prevent other people from using guns, think about letting people ... olddad56 Jul 2015 #69
Great idea. We could give all the good guys with guns white hats to wear. yellowcanine Jul 2015 #71

ejbr

(5,856 posts)
3. Telling someone to be quiet with a "shhhh..."
Sun Jul 26, 2015, 08:53 PM
Jul 2015

will be a thing of the past! People can now just wave guns at each other and then?

rickford66

(5,523 posts)
4. What?
Sun Jul 26, 2015, 08:56 PM
Jul 2015
"the problem in Lafayette and the recent shooting in Charleston, South Carolina, is a lack of enforcement." Lack of enforcement of lax gun laws allowed someone to get a gun? Ya. Keep diluting laws and repeat "there are already enough gun laws now" and "they aren't enforced". Oh and "now is not the time".

TexasTowelie

(112,102 posts)
6. Yes,
Sun Jul 26, 2015, 08:57 PM
Jul 2015

I'm certain that a gun would have helped considering the shooter was behind all of the victims when the attack began.

 

Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
7. The two victims were shot, without warning in the back of the head
Sun Jul 26, 2015, 08:58 PM
Jul 2015

They were sitting in front of the rightwing nutcase, and didn't see it coming.

I'd like for Rick, with his fancy Smart Guy Glasses, to explain how them having guns would have stopped him.

This is the rightwing vision of America. You can no longer enjoy a basic pleasure such as going to a movie. But, at best, you can carry a gun and hope there's some chance of survival if you can engage the nut in a wild west shootout.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
10. We need more gun nuts to keep us safe from the gun nuts
Sun Jul 26, 2015, 09:06 PM
Jul 2015

If Rootin' Tootin' Gov Goodhair can use is pistola to keep us safe from rabid coyotes, anything is possible.

gregcrawford

(2,382 posts)
62. I remember that show!
Mon Jul 27, 2015, 01:19 PM
Jul 2015

Richard Greene starred in it. I think the title was a take-off on a standard line in "Employment Wanted" ads for musicians: "HAVE TUX, WILL TRAVEL."

gregcrawford

(2,382 posts)
64. AHA! You're absolutely right!
Mon Jul 27, 2015, 01:48 PM
Jul 2015

Memory's one of the first three things to go. I forget what the other two are...

Maybe I was thinking of that genius fiddler who was a member of a 70's group called "Seatrain." Great band!

sarge43

(28,941 posts)
8. OK, it's time the rest of the world puts a fence around this country
Sun Jul 26, 2015, 08:59 PM
Jul 2015

and declare it the world's largest mad house.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
13. movie theaters have lost my business forever thanks to Perry giving the murder-suiciders ideas
Sun Jul 26, 2015, 09:09 PM
Jul 2015
the man needs more restful sleep or another botox treatment

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
14. Wonder if he has ever seen a gang war. Both sides have guns and it only makes it worse. BTW
Sun Jul 26, 2015, 09:14 PM
Jul 2015

I am not suggesting that the shooting was gang related.

Can you imagine a full dark theater and someone opens fire and in seconds 20 other shooters are returning fire? How many victims are going to be added by the guns of the 20?

airplaneman

(1,239 posts)
42. Can you visualize everyone having a gun and them everyone starts shooting after the first shot n/t.
Sun Jul 26, 2015, 10:48 PM
Jul 2015

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
43. In the dark with no one knowing who the enemy is or even where he is. IMO that is the stupidest
Sun Jul 26, 2015, 10:53 PM
Jul 2015

idea that ever came out of Pandora's box.

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
15. I live in Georgia and I'm seeing more and more young people with guns strapped on their sides.
Sun Jul 26, 2015, 09:15 PM
Jul 2015

I saw a young girl, about 20 something, had on a tank top, short shorts, flip flops and a gun belt strapped to her waist and and leg. It's as if it's becoming the norm. Now this was at the Starbucks. I guess what disturbs me is do these people know when it's appropriate to use the weapon? In a dark movie theater, I could see innocent people being harmed simply because they don't know where the shooting is coming from. I just don't go to movie theaters anymore. Sorry but it's just too easy to watch them at home now and I don't have to pay $5.00 for a popcorn.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
18. Whenever I see a civilian with a gun and they are not heading into a gun range or hunting...
Sun Jul 26, 2015, 09:21 PM
Jul 2015

...I call security of the cops.

I don't care what the NRA written law is. I have no idea if this person is a robber or a terrorist or what.

Locrian

(4,522 posts)
51. yep
Mon Jul 27, 2015, 07:31 AM
Jul 2015

Younger people (at least the ones I know) are totally fine with guns, wanting to carry guns, etc. They talk about them like smartphones.

They've grow up with the best marketing and accessibility vs the old days when you felt sleezy going into a gun store. Kinda like porn has become easier to access...

And I still think movies, tv etc have normalized guns. They're seen as just another accessory to make you feel safe. And of course all the "good" guys have the best guns.

 

Kang Colby

(1,941 posts)
21. A broken clock is right twice a day...
Sun Jul 26, 2015, 09:30 PM
Jul 2015


With over ten million concealed carry permit holders in the United States, not including those in states like Vermont or Maine that don't require permits...I'm not sure it makes much difference in terms of risk management to prohibit carry in movie theaters. But I can understand the concern. People just have to realize that we pass these folks on the street, in malls, at restaurants, etc. and they rarely cause any problems. I want to be clear though, I am only referring to people who conceal handguns in accordance with state and local laws.

I wouldn't dare suggest that lawful carriers can stop every shooting, they can't. But going by the numbers, I don't think carrying in movie theaters will make anything worse.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
23. What would a 'concealed carry permit holder' have done to stop a person who shot people...
Sun Jul 26, 2015, 09:34 PM
Jul 2015

...in the back of the head?

Your little gif shows a map of defective thinking. Nothing more.

Tick tock...

The tipping point approacheth.

 

Darb

(2,807 posts)
58. Everyone knows that guns should be worshiped.
Mon Jul 27, 2015, 12:20 PM
Jul 2015

Duh. Preach it! We want to hear more of your wisdom.

EEO

(1,620 posts)
24. "Good Guy with a Gun" Had Day Off During Louisiana Shooting
Sun Jul 26, 2015, 09:35 PM
Jul 2015

I knew it was coming. These people...

"Good Guy with a Gun" Had Day Off During Louisiana Shooting

LAFAYETTE, LOUISIANA (The Nil Admirari): Earlier today, the Nation Rifle Association (NRA) announced the "good guy with a gun" who was supposed to be protecting a movie theater in Lafayette, Louisiana had the day off. The NRA explained how Jim-Bob Turner requested Thursday, July 23rd off two weeks in advance, but due to a "scheduling oversight" forgot to have his shift covered by another "good guy with a gun" at the theater where two people were killed by a "bad guy with a gun."

And...


LaPierre added, "If only one of the victims or someone else in that theater had the courage to bring a gun and defend themselves last night this could have been avoided. Once again, the shortage of guns and gun owners in America has been proven to be a deadly mistake."

"You never think this thing can happen in a state like Louisiana where I have made sure we have some of the most lax gun control laws in America," said Republican presidential candidate and Governor of Louisiana Piyush "Bobby" Jindal.


These gun nuts are pathetic.
 

MillennialDem

(2,367 posts)
25. I wasn't aware guns weren't allowed in movie theaters. I thought in most states it was up to
Sun Jul 26, 2015, 09:37 PM
Jul 2015

the theater owner to decide.

Lobo27

(753 posts)
27. Sigh....
Sun Jul 26, 2015, 09:45 PM
Jul 2015

Here in Texas, I frequent a movie place called the Alamo Drafthouse. Guess what people drink there. Guns and Beer, what an idiot my ex governor is....

Mr.Bill

(24,280 posts)
31. Are guns allowed at Perry's campaign rallies?
Sun Jul 26, 2015, 10:05 PM
Jul 2015

What's funny is he isn't allowed to carry one in Texas. Lost his permit when he was indicted for a felony.

kimbutgar

(21,127 posts)
32. They have so jumped the shark as to their idiocacy regarding guns
Sun Jul 26, 2015, 10:13 PM
Jul 2015

So you're in a movie and you think the gun shots you hear are on the movie screen and it turns out to be some gun nut.

Yeah great idea.

Capt.Rocky300

(1,005 posts)
33. Glad I live close to the border....
Sun Jul 26, 2015, 10:18 PM
Jul 2015

I can go to Vancouver to see a movie without fear of winding up in the middle of the OK Corral.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
34. For four days, I actually kind of respected Rick Perry(after he called out Trump on racism)
Sun Jul 26, 2015, 10:18 PM
Jul 2015

Knew he couldn't let it last.

bucolic_frolic

(43,127 posts)
35. It will be so safe
Sun Jul 26, 2015, 10:18 PM
Jul 2015

that no one will go to the theater anymore.

Better to stay home.

Popcorn's cheaper.

Theater chains must be just *thrilled* with this subject.

moondust

(19,972 posts)
40. Guns and wars are the answer.
Sun Jul 26, 2015, 10:36 PM
Jul 2015

After LBJ and GWB, we don't need another Texan with terrible ideas in the WH. That goes for Carnival Cruz as well.

moondust

(19,972 posts)
44. Of course it wasn't.
Sun Jul 26, 2015, 10:58 PM
Jul 2015

Nor was the War on Poverty.

But don't expect another President from the bright red state of Texas to do anything remotely resembling those things in the forseeable future. Today's Texas Republicans would be much more likely to end those kinds of things altogether.

Guns and wars? You bet!

Forgot this:

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
45. i think howard wolowitz said it best
Sun Jul 26, 2015, 11:36 PM
Jul 2015

Raj: She’s not hiding. She needed privacy to call her grandmother who’s apparently very sick. Oh, and then I believe she has to wash her hair.

Howard: Oh, you poor, deluded bastard.

usafvet65

(46 posts)
48. Scientific experiment
Sun Jul 26, 2015, 11:53 PM
Jul 2015

Why hasn't some gun control group tried an experiment. Get/select 25-50 volunteers. Equip all with non-lethal hand guns. Paint ball or more sophisticated laser weapons. Have one "shooter" randomly seated in the theater at the "shooters" discretion have him pick and fire at victims add sound effect gun shots muzzle flashes, high speed cameras on the shooter. etc. Let the volunteers return fire until the shooter has an empty weapon. Now look at the data. When and how many times was the shooter hit. Which shot would have been lethal to the shooter. How many innocent volunteers get shot. Now repeat the the experiment with trained volunteers. Cops, combat vets, certified weapons expert. Now look at the data. I'll bet in both cases innocent individuals will be shot. Less with trained weapons experts I would suspect. In either case it will prove or disprove the NRA's and Rick Perry's contention. The old line the "only thing that will stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guys with a gun".

The experiment shouldn't be that difficult to stage. Hollywood does it all the time. Except this time they only set up the scene and record the events.

sarge43

(28,941 posts)
49. We already know what will happen. It's called friendly fire.
Mon Jul 27, 2015, 06:34 AM
Jul 2015

Friendly fire casualty rate in the First Gulf War: 23%

usaf-vet

(6,181 posts)
55. Exactly sarge43
Mon Jul 27, 2015, 11:51 AM
Jul 2015

I don't see that as making anyone safer. Friendly fire is as deadly as enemy fire. 23% in the first gulf war. Just imagine what the number would be if the good guys were untrained.

 

Darb

(2,807 posts)
57. Required would be even better.
Mon Jul 27, 2015, 12:12 PM
Jul 2015

We should hand them out on the way in just to make sure everyone has one.

RobinA

(9,888 posts)
59. A Firefight
Mon Jul 27, 2015, 12:22 PM
Jul 2015

in the dark with an unidentifiable target. What could go wrong?

This sounds like the circular firing squad I've heard tell about.

tclambert

(11,085 posts)
60. Because the Wild West was such a gentle, non-violent period of history.
Mon Jul 27, 2015, 12:37 PM
Jul 2015

It's nostalgia for cowboy movies.

Zambero

(8,964 posts)
68. Let's see, providing for a well-regulated militia
Mon Jul 27, 2015, 04:28 PM
Jul 2015

simply means allowing guns into movie theatres. Isn't that 2nd Amendment wonderful?!?!

olddad56

(5,732 posts)
69. Gee Rick, if carrying guns will prevent other people from using guns, think about letting people ...
Mon Jul 27, 2015, 05:18 PM
Jul 2015

carry hand grenades, that should work even better.

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
71. Great idea. We could give all the good guys with guns white hats to wear.
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 09:02 AM
Jul 2015

Show your gun at the door, announce that you are a good guy with a gun and get your white hat. That oughta work.

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