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Sat May 5, 2012, 11:28 PM

alp227 (20,488 posts)

Chen Guangcheng case: Republican senators urge asylum despite deal

Source: Washington Post

Two Republican senators plan to introduce a congressional resolution urging the Obama administration to grant blind Chinese activist Chen Guangcheng political asylum despite a tentative deal already struck on Friday to bring him to the United States.

An early draft of the resolution by Sens. Kelly Ayotte (N.H.) and Lindsey Graham (S.C.) included criticism of the Obama administration’s handling of of the diplomatic crisis, support for Chen’s work in China against forced abortions and language chastizing China.

The proposal suggests Republicans see the issue as a potentially useful election year line of attack on Obama’s record on human rights and relations with China.

Some Republicans, including Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney, and human rights advocates have accused the Obama administration of mismanaging Chen’s case. The critics say the administration has been too trusting of the Chinese government, given its history of mistreating dissidents.

Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/chen-guangcheng-case-republican-senators-urge-asylum-despite-deal/2012/05/05/gIQAqzIH4T_story.html

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16 replies	Author	Time	Post
Chen Guangcheng case: Republican senators urge asylum despite deal (Original post)	alp227	May 2012	OP
he's coming here with a job for farks sake	elehhhhna	May 2012	#1
I Think Hillary Should Put A Corkscrew Up Their Butts.....	Grassy Knoll	May 2012	#2
They could actually screw up the deal that's already in place.	eyewall	May 2012	#3
I wish the public and the media would, but...	CBHagman	May 2012	#13
There ya go!	LASlibinSC	May 2012	#4
Can you imagine the outrage	Mz Pip	May 2012	#5
self redundant.	PatrynXX	May 2012	#6
What an idiotic post.	rayofreason	May 2012	#9
Democrats who punish free speech are right-wing.	JDPriestly	May 2012	#11
Taking a dump in a public park...	rayofreason	May 2012	#15
Which means	Iliyah	May 2012	#7
My mom would have referred to this	rocktivity	May 2012	#8
This Resolution Has Nothing To Do With Political Asylum	DallasNE	May 2012	#10
Yap yap yap yap yap yap ...	bemildred	May 2012	#12
Fox News actually in Congress - recreating a tory to your own making	underpants	May 2012	#14
cry me a fucking river rethugs...	madrchsod	May 2012	#16

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Sat May 5, 2012, 11:34 PM

elehhhhna (26,726 posts)

1. he's coming here with a job for farks sake

how is this mismanagement?

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Sat May 5, 2012, 11:51 PM

Grassy Knoll (4,275 posts)

2. I Think Hillary Should Put A Corkscrew Up Their Butts.....

..and have a Grand Opening. Idiots.

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Sat May 5, 2012, 11:55 PM

eyewall (660 posts)

3. They could actually screw up the deal that's already in place.

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This is so inappropriate. The media and the public MUST see through this?

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Sun May 6, 2012, 10:59 AM

CBHagman (14,023 posts)

13. I wish the public and the media would, but...

...in the main, they probably won't. For the most part, the media will do the usual they said/they said routine, while the public is suggestible.

For example, last week, literally within hours of Chen leaving the embassy for the hospital and the supposed deal unraveling, Rep. Chris Smith (R-NJ) and Rep. Frank Wolf (R-VA) were holding a hearing without any Democrats at all, but with a former Reagan administration official, Michael Horowitz (now with the Hudson Institute), as one of the witnesses. Things were still unfolding and indeed undecided in China, and already Horowitz was condemning the State Department staff in general as completely incompetent, and Wolf was demanding a detailed account from the administration.

One of my co-workers -- not a right-winger, not at all -- took the performance completely at face value, despite the tone that was informing the whole thing.

But attention spans being what they are, the media will move on, and so will the public. The GOP is just trying to milk this.

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Sun May 6, 2012, 12:04 AM

LASlibinSC (269 posts)

4. There ya go!

I wondered when and how Graham was going to insert himself into this election. Fellow DUers I submit that Ayotte will be Mittens running mate. Graham is not about to introduce a bill with a second stringer. Not that media whore. Jus sayin...

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Sun May 6, 2012, 12:20 AM

Mz Pip (23,808 posts)

5. Can you imagine the outrage

if a couple of Democratic Seantors pulled a stunt like this during sensitive negotiations in progress for the release of someone like Chen during a Republican administration? There would be howls of treason on every damn Sunday talk show. Fox would be in a state of perpetual BREAKINGNEWS frothing at the bit to start a recall campaign.

Scandalous. I would expect something like this from Inhofe or DeMint but not from Graham.

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Sun May 6, 2012, 12:26 AM

PatrynXX (2,566 posts)

6. self redundant.

Mitts already weak on china. and we have nothing to show for it for all the Right wing crack downs on our civil rights during the OWS protests. china will point this out. We can't go after china if we are doing just the same thing...

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Sun May 6, 2012, 01:11 AM

rayofreason (2,259 posts)

9. What an idiotic post.

Right wing crack downs on our civil rights during the OWS protests. china will point this out. We can't go after china if we are doing just the same thing...

Really? Are you talking about this?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/03/occupy-oakland-violence-_n_1073325.html
http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2012/01/30/oakland-mayor-quan-says-occupy-protesters-using-city-as-playground/
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203687504577002113940129568.html

So the Democratic mayors of Atlanta and Oakland are the Right wing?

And you want to compare the actions of these Democratic mayors to the human rights record of China, with its occupation of Tibet, ethnic cleansing in Tibet and Xinjiang, forced sterilizations, abortions, and infanticide under the one-child policy, Tiananmen Sq., etc.?

Talk about an infantile sense of moral equivalency. Sheesh.

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Sun May 6, 2012, 03:48 AM

JDPriestly (37,760 posts)

11. Democrats who punish free speech are right-wing.

Democratic is how you act, what you are, not what you claim to be, not what you name yourself.

There is nothing "Democratic" about repressing free speech. And "Democratic" mayors need to remember that.

In fact, it is our job to remind them.

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Sun May 6, 2012, 03:26 PM

rayofreason (2,259 posts)

15. Taking a dump in a public park...

...is not free speech. Neither is vandalism of public and private property.

But that begs the question - do you agree that what these mayors did is equivalent to Chinese actions?

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Sun May 6, 2012, 12:35 AM

Iliyah (2,359 posts)

7. Which means

goppers don't care about human lives.

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Sun May 6, 2012, 12:38 AM

rocktivity (36,630 posts)

8. My mom would have referred to this

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as "closing the barn door after the horse has gotten out" and my dad as "Monday morning quarterbacking."

rocktivity

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Sun May 6, 2012, 02:55 AM

DallasNE (2,960 posts)

10. This Resolution Has Nothing To Do With Political Asylum

And everything to do with sabre rattling with China -- a move that would be sure to backfire by making relations worse between the two nations. This is a case where the Republicans need to STFU.

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Sun May 6, 2012, 10:22 AM

bemildred (67,509 posts)

12. Yap yap yap yap yap yap ...

It's like a little whiny dog chewing on your ankle.

Although, I must say it's amusing, very amusing, to see Republicans, any Republicans, going on about somebody else's human rights record or diplomatic efforts.

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Sun May 6, 2012, 12:04 PM

underpants (105,621 posts)

14. Fox News actually in Congress - recreating a tory to your own making

Our Congress is officially a JOKE

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Mon May 7, 2012, 07:15 AM

madrchsod (55,741 posts)

16. cry me a fucking river rethugs...

the people IN CHARGE of the situation cut a deal where EVERYONE saved face and EVERYONE got what they wanted.

so shut the fuck up cause you rethugs sound like spoiled babies crying cause mommy won`t give up another sucker.

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