Fri May 4, 2012, 06:11 PM
Hissyspit (40,065 posts)
Nurse in Afghanistan Dies in Skype Chat with WifeLast edited Fri May 4, 2012, 06:13 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1)
Source: Associated Press
Nurse in Afghanistan dies in Skype chat with wife From Associated Press May 04, 2012 5:33 PM EDT HOUSTON (AP) — The wife of an Army officer serving in Afghanistan witnessed her husband's death as the two video chatted via Skype, his family said Friday. The circumstances of Capt. Bruce Kevin Clark's death were not immediately available. The Pentagon said it was under investigation, and his brother-in-law said he didn't have details. - snip - A statement from the family released by Taber-Thomas said Clark died Monday while talking to his wife during one of their regular Skype sessions. "At the time of the incident, the family was hoping for a rescue and miracle, but later learned that it was not to be," the statement said. "Although the circumstances were unimaginable, Bruce's wife and extended family will be forever thankful that he and his wife were together in his last moments." Read more: http://enews.earthlink.net/article/top?guid=20120504/4c8c59da-b00e-450d-aaaf-f732bee4417c
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| Author | Time | Post | |
| Hissyspit | May 2012 | OP | |
| Cooley Hurd | May 2012 | #1 | |
| proverbialwisdom | May 2012 | #17 | |
| tawadi | May 2012 | #18 | |
| rocktivity | May 2012 | #20 | |
| Ken Burch | May 2012 | #2 | |
| Chemisse | May 2012 | #3 | |
| allan01 | May 2012 | #4 | |
| El Supremo | May 2012 | #5 | |
| azurnoir | May 2012 | #6 | |
| Smilo | May 2012 | #7 | |
| Ruby the Liberal | May 2012 | #8 | |
| Neoma | May 2012 | #13 | |
| Ruby the Liberal | May 2012 | #14 | |
| Neoma | May 2012 | #15 | |
| kestrel91316 | May 2012 | #9 | |
| AtheistCrusader | May 2012 | #10 | |
| rocktivity | May 2012 | #19 | |
| AtheistCrusader | May 2012 | #21 | |
| Ruby the Liberal | May 2012 | #22 | |
| AtheistCrusader | May 2012 | #23 | |
| AtheistCrusader | May 2012 | #28 | |
| Princess Turandot | May 2012 | #24 | |
| bitchkitty | May 2012 | #11 | |
| cosmicone | May 2012 | #12 | |
| tawadi | May 2012 | #16 | |
| tawadi | May 2012 | #25 | |
| Judi Lynn | May 2012 | #26 | |
| tawadi | May 2012 | #27 | |
| PoliticAverse | May 2012 | #29 |
Response to Hissyspit (Original post)
Fri May 4, 2012, 06:17 PM
Cooley Hurd (20,664 posts)
1. Weird they wouldn't even say in what manner he died?
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Was there an explosion? Was there a gun shot? Did he just fall over?
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Response to Cooley Hurd (Reply #1)
Sat May 5, 2012, 01:27 PM
proverbialwisdom (1,584 posts)
17. More facts here.
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http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/05/us/afghanistan-skype-death/index.html
Army: Death of soldier who died during Skype session with wife is under investigation By the CNN Wire Staff updated 5:26 AM EDT, Sat May 5, 2012 (CNN) -- The death of a U.S. Army captain who died while engaged in a video chat with his wife from Afghanistan remained under investigation Saturday, the family said. Capt. Bruce Kevin Clark was in Tarin Kowt, about 85 miles (140 kilometers) north of Kandahar, when he died during a Skype session with his wife. Clarence Davis, a spokesman for the William Beaumont Army Medical Center in El Paso, Texas, where Clark was based, said that it has not been determined how Clark died and that the case is under investigation. Clark's family said in a statement that they'd hoped for "a miracle" after his wife Susan saw what happened to Clark during their chat on Monday, but "it was not to be." They did not elaborate as to what took place. "Although the circumstances were unimaginable, Bruce's wife and extended family will be forever thankful that he and his wife were together in his last moments," Clark's wife and family said Friday. Clark -- known by many as Kevin -- was a chief nurse in the Army who amassed many honors in his military career, according to his family. Those include an Army Commendation Medal, Military Outstanding Volunteer Service, Global War on Terrorism Service Medal and an Army Service Medal. The longtime resident of Spencerport, New York, joined the Army in September 2006 and served, among other places, at the Tripler Army Medical Center in Hawaii, according to a Beaumont Army Medical Center statement. More recently, he was based at that medical facility in southwest Texas and assigned to the Army's A Company, Troop Command. "He loved being in the military," his sister-in-law Mariana Barry told CNN affiliate WHAM in upstate New York. "He was absolutely willing to make any sacrifice, and it's just horrible that this is the sacrifice he ended up making." His commander described Clark, 43, as "awesome," "professional" and "a great asset, leader and friend," the family said. After his death, special operations troops from the United States and Australia lined up to give him his final send-off from Afghanistan. <...> |
Response to proverbialwisdom (Reply #17)
Sat May 5, 2012, 04:41 PM
tawadi (1,994 posts)
18. Thanks for the link
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'At the time of the incident, the family was hoping for a rescue and miracle, but later learned that it was not to be.'
Wonder what happened? Electrocution (like those soldiers who died of electrocution in showers)? A weapon discharged? It is a strange story. Why release half a story? |
Response to proverbialwisdom (Reply #17)
Sat May 5, 2012, 05:35 PM
rocktivity (36,627 posts)
20. More, yes. More facts, no.
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Last edited Sat May 5, 2012, 05:54 PM USA/ET - Edit history (2) ...on Thursday, his casket was wrapped in an American flag as it was transported off a military plane onto the tarmac of Dover Air Force Base in Delaware, according to the U.S. Air Force Mortuary Affairs Operation.
While no dates have been given, the family said that Clark's funeral will be in Spencerport and a memorial service will be held in Addison, Michigan. What's with the stateside spokesperson -- don't they have medical facilities over there? And why are there already plans to bury him while an "investigation" is still under way, and there's no official eyewitness statement or determination of death? This "showcase" officer either killed himself or he was ambushed by someone -- neither of which the Army wants to admit. rocktivity |
Response to Hissyspit (Original post)
Fri May 4, 2012, 06:43 PM
Ken Burch (31,231 posts)
2. Anther reason to BRING THEM HOME NOW!!!!
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There's nothing there that's worth anymore deaths...American or Afghan. It no longer matters which "side" wins.
Can't people see that already? |
Response to Hissyspit (Original post)
Fri May 4, 2012, 06:54 PM
Chemisse (18,415 posts)
3. Could it have been a suicide?
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That's what I always wonder when there is no hint to the cause of death.
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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)
Fri May 4, 2012, 07:22 PM
allan01 (628 posts)
4. re: Nurse in Afghanistan Dies in Skype Chat with Wife
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pres obama remember ur promise for a COMPLETE PULLOUT OF THIS SITUATIOn . bring our men home NOW
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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)
Fri May 4, 2012, 07:27 PM
El Supremo (13,154 posts)
5. "hoping for a rescue"?
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I've read this story from several media sources and I can't figure out what was going on. It's big news in El Paso where he was stationed.
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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)
Fri May 4, 2012, 07:27 PM
azurnoir (26,657 posts)
6. once again why the h*ll are we still there?
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what are we accomplishing?
long past time to bring them home |
Response to Hissyspit (Original post)
Fri May 4, 2012, 08:01 PM
Smilo (1,886 posts)
7. So, so tragic - whatever the circumstances..........
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my sincere condolences to his wife and two children.
RIP Capt Clark. |
Response to Hissyspit (Original post)
Fri May 4, 2012, 08:13 PM
Ruby the Liberal (23,509 posts)
8. If he was on Skype, wouldn't that indicate that he was on base?
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What would a rescue have to do with someone dying in front of a computer (again, presumably on base).
This is just strange how this is being reported. |
Response to Ruby the Liberal (Reply #8)
Fri May 4, 2012, 11:07 PM
Neoma (8,980 posts)
13. Maybe they have smartphones?
Response to Neoma (Reply #13)
Sat May 5, 2012, 01:41 AM
Ruby the Liberal (23,509 posts)
14. Can you use Skype on a cell phone?
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I have only used it a few times, to talk with friends overseas, so am not very familiar with the software (other than Microsoft bought it
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Response to Ruby the Liberal (Reply #14)
Sat May 5, 2012, 10:05 AM
Neoma (8,980 posts)
15. Yeah, skype's on iPhone's.
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Better yet, there's "FaceTime" on iPhone 4S, where it's like, even better than Skype. No lag, better picture. As to whether it has the ability to be used over seas? Yeah, no clue.
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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)
Fri May 4, 2012, 08:27 PM
kestrel91316 (45,412 posts)
9. Heart attack? Suicide?
Response to Hissyspit (Original post)
Fri May 4, 2012, 08:31 PM
AtheistCrusader (14,217 posts)
10. Sounds a bit like a suicide, but could have been a medical issue, like a heart attack.
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Last edited Fri May 4, 2012, 08:32 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) The way they frame the 'thankful they were together in his last moments' suggests a medical issue. I would not be thankful to witness if my spouse called me up and killed herself.
I would be surprised if this was enemy action. Doubtful someone would be on Skype away from the base, and I haven't heard of any major mortar or rocket attacks in the last two days. |
Response to AtheistCrusader (Reply #10)
Sat May 5, 2012, 05:24 PM
rocktivity (36,627 posts)
19. But why conceal it if it WAS a heart attack?
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Last edited Sat May 5, 2012, 05:29 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) Of course that would have been an absolute tragedy, but even then that's not something that needs to be "investigated" or hushed up. And if the wife saw him die, what IS there to investigate? I smell a coverup and a gag order -- either a suicide or an attack by someone who entered the room.
rocktivity |
Response to rocktivity (Reply #19)
Sat May 5, 2012, 09:01 PM
AtheistCrusader (14,217 posts)
21. They usually don't discuss.
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But I agree, that does suggest a suicide.
The family will tell the public or not. If it was another person, there will be a trial, and we'll find out. |
Response to AtheistCrusader (Reply #21)
Sat May 5, 2012, 10:13 PM
Ruby the Liberal (23,509 posts)
22. Who would suicide with their spouse watching though?
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and from half a world away no less.
That seems rather cruel to leave that visual as the last memory. |
Response to Ruby the Liberal (Reply #22)
Sun May 6, 2012, 02:08 AM
AtheistCrusader (14,217 posts)
23. Shit, some people kill their spouse and kids, and then themselves.
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When people are that desperate, who knows.
But it is only one of many possibilities. Honestly, I feel weird speculating about it at all. |
Response to AtheistCrusader (Reply #23)
Mon May 7, 2012, 01:01 PM
AtheistCrusader (14,217 posts)
28. External shot.
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http://news.yahoo.com/wife-skyping-soldier-saw-bullet-hole-wall-195412855.html
Murder or enemy action. Boy, I feel like an ass for speculating now. |
Response to rocktivity (Reply #19)
Sun May 6, 2012, 08:02 AM
Princess Turandot (2,169 posts)
24. Certain heart attack deaths in young adults can take weeks to determine..
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it's sometimes referred to as 'sudden adult death syndrome'. Young adults w/ no med history of cardiac problems sometimes collapse & die.
A 38 y.o. cousin of mine died that way; I think it took 4 weeks before they had an answer, long after he was buried. |
Response to Hissyspit (Original post)
Fri May 4, 2012, 08:36 PM
bitchkitty (6,803 posts)
11. Hoping for a rescue and a miracle?
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Was he being held captive? This story is not clear at all. In any case, R.I.P. Captain Clark, I'm sorry you had to die thousands of miles away from home.
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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)
Sat May 5, 2012, 11:01 AM
tawadi (1,994 posts)
16. How horrific
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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)
Sun May 6, 2012, 05:19 PM
tawadi (1,994 posts)
25. Upated on this story : Wife saw bullet hole while Skyping with soldier
Response to tawadi (Reply #25)
Sun May 6, 2012, 09:00 PM
Judi Lynn (77,618 posts)
26. Thanks for posting the updated news on this sad, sad story.
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Last edited Sun May 6, 2012, 09:02 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) Hopefully it will be somewhat comforting to his wife, at some point when she realizes at least he died so quickly he was completely unaware he had been shot.
It IS a far cry from some of the earlier speculations, clearly, of course. |
Response to Judi Lynn (Reply #26)
Sun May 6, 2012, 09:21 PM
tawadi (1,994 posts)
27. Hope people will see it
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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)
Mon May 7, 2012, 09:48 PM
PoliticAverse (5,537 posts)
29. Update: Army: no bullet wound found in soldier Skype death
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WASHINGTON (AP) -- Army investigators said Monday they found no bullet wound or evidence of foul play in the death of a soldier in Afghanistan who died during a Skype video chat with his wife.
Capt. Bruce Kevin Clark collapsed while speaking to his wife on May 1 from his base in Tarin Kot, Afghanistan, southwest of Kabul. His wife, Susan Orellana-Clark, has suggested that Clark was shot, citing a hole visible in the closet behind him that she believed was a bullet hole. Investigators said an initial probe showed no trauma to the body except that Clark broke his nose when he fell forward. Orellana-Clark said he didn't seem alarmed before he collapsed. Christopher Grey, a spokesman for the Army Criminal Investigation Command, said Monday that the investigation is still under way. Read the rest at: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_SOLDIER_DEATH_SKYPE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT |

