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Eugene

(61,862 posts)
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 11:36 PM Jun 2015

Mandatory vaccination bill for public schools passes California legislature

Source: The Guardian

Four months after a measles outbreak that began at Disneyland ran its cross-country course, the California general assembly on Thursday approved a bill that would require all children in public schools to be vaccinated.

The bill, which lays out what would be one of the strictest vaccination regimes in the country, would eliminate current exceptions that allow for students to go unvaccinated due to personal beliefs or on religious grounds.

It was unclear whether Governor Jerry Brown intended to sign the bill, which opponents said would intrude on families’ private health decisions.

A move to close the personal belief loophole gained steamed after an outbreak of measles that began late last year.

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Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jun/25/california-approves-mandatory-vaccination-bill



Tom McCarthy in New York
Thursday 25 June 2015 22.06 BST
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Mandatory vaccination bill for public schools passes California legislature (Original Post) Eugene Jun 2015 OP
There was a time when this was not contoversial Capt13 Jun 2015 #1
I'm a rubella child myself. I was born deaf. I don't get anti-vaxxers deafskeptic Jun 2015 #4
No, it wasn't. Igel Jun 2015 #8
K & R SunSeeker Jun 2015 #2
I thought this was a law in most states already hollysmom Jun 2015 #3
California's only the third state to reject the personal belief exemption. NuclearDem Jun 2015 #7
Puts Calif in good company, doesn't it? n/t Igel Jun 2015 #9
Broken clocks. NuclearDem Jun 2015 #10
Good. n/t Little Tich Jun 2015 #5
Leading Medical/Scientist Disagree Sparhawk60 Jun 2015 #6

Capt13

(62 posts)
1. There was a time when this was not contoversial
Thu Jun 25, 2015, 11:44 PM
Jun 2015

Seems people have forgotten what it's like to watch your children suffer from polio or brain damage from German Measles, Etc......

deafskeptic

(463 posts)
4. I'm a rubella child myself. I was born deaf. I don't get anti-vaxxers
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 02:52 AM
Jun 2015

Rubella can cause a host of problems more serious than deafness. I think the same can be said for other diseases.

Igel

(35,296 posts)
8. No, it wasn't.
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 11:25 AM
Jun 2015

This is nearly exceptionless. That part is controversial and has been for a long, long time.

Herd immunity works up to a few percentage points, and religious exemptions supported by citation of religious doctrine or reason + affirmation by somebody in a religious organization that you're an adherent to that doctrine seldom reach that level.

What happened is that since "religion" was replaced by "any personal opinion"--anything less privileges somebody, and we can't have people not feeling fully privileged--it became easy, esp. in CT-minded neighborhoods (often wealthy), to exceed the limits allowed by herd immunity.


I know people who'll pull their kids out of school over this. Thing is, they're not really mostly in a position to home school them adequately. They still stupidly assume that the emotional, moral, and psychological care of their kids is primarily their own. They'll learn eventually that their goal is to breed and fund, others who know far more than they do and are just superior people will make all the important decisions for them.


Then again, if most of the other kids really were protected by vaccinations, those who watch their kids suffer would be those who chose. Parents already make so many horrible decisions for their kids--just look at schools that don't make AYP and you'll see lots of parents who make horrible decisions for their kids, whether they like those decisions or even recognize those decisions. I see those same decisions in a school that *does* make AYP, but they're just large enough and common enough to affect a relatively small percentage in that school. Note that this results in a far greater burden on society in terms of cost, life, property, and later medical expenses and longevity. Maybe eventually there'll be parent tests: Means tested for income, stability, and education levels. Fail the test and it's not so much that "it takes a village" as "the village takes."

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
7. California's only the third state to reject the personal belief exemption.
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 09:23 AM
Jun 2015

West Virginia and Mississippi are the other two.

 

Sparhawk60

(359 posts)
6. Leading Medical/Scientist Disagree
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 08:56 AM
Jun 2015

I get all my medical and scientific information from a Playboy Bunny. She has devoted countless hours researching this topic on the internets, and she firmly believes life saving vaccines are bad. Wake up sheeple!, the science is settled. The Bunny has spoken!


/sarcasm off

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