Tue May 1, 2012, 03:19 PM
Judi Lynn (77,615 posts)
Bolivia says it's nationalizing electrical grid
Source: Associated Press
May 1, 2:25 PM EDT Bolivia says it's nationalizing electrical grid By CARLOS VALDEZ Associated Press LA PAZ, Bolivia (AP) -- Bolivia's President Evo Morales announced Tuesday that his government is completing nationalization of the country's electricity industry by taking over the bulk of its electrical grid from a Spanish-owned company. Morales also took advantage of the symbolism of May Day, the international day of the worker, to order troops to take control of installations of the company, a subsidiary of Red Electrica Corporacion S.A. "We are nationalizing the Transportadora de Electricidad in the name of the Bolivian people as a fitting homage to the workers who fought for the recovery of our natural resources and basic services," Morales said during a ceremony at the presidential palace. "We invested $220 million in generation and others profited. For that reason, brothers and sisters, we have decided to nationalize electricity transmission," he said. Read more: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/L/LT_BOLIVIA_ELECTRICAL_GRID?SECTION=HOME&SITE=AP&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
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18 replies, 2353 views
| Author | Time | Post | |
| Judi Lynn | May 2012 | OP | |
| cstanleytech | May 2012 | #1 | |
| limpyhobbler | May 2012 | #2 | |
| TBF | May 2012 | #5 | |
| cstanleytech | May 2012 | #10 | |
| zipplewrath | May 2012 | #8 | |
| RufusTFirefly | May 2012 | #3 | |
| Cleita | May 2012 | #4 | |
| madokie | May 2012 | #6 | |
| hack89 | May 2012 | #17 | |
| Cleita | May 2012 | #18 | |
| marmar | May 2012 | #7 | |
| progress2k12nbynd | May 2012 | #9 | |
| cstanleytech | May 2012 | #11 | |
| Prometheus Bound | May 2012 | #12 | |
| Judi Lynn | May 2012 | #13 | |
| Citizen Worker | May 2012 | #14 | |
| Comrade Grumpy | May 2012 | #15 | |
| nanabugg | May 2012 | #16 |
Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)
Tue May 1, 2012, 03:29 PM
cstanleytech (5,310 posts)
1. There are both benefits and risks though with nationalizing which I do hope they have considered.
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Benefit: It hopefully helps control and or bring down the cost of the electricity for the people.
Risk: They might have trouble getting foreign governments to lend them money and or luring foreign corporations to invest since the corporations have a legit worry about the government taking their property. |
Response to cstanleytech (Reply #1)
Tue May 1, 2012, 03:59 PM
limpyhobbler (6,652 posts)
2. They may actually be better off in the long run if they don't get loans from foreign governments.
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I hear the interest payments on those international loans can be a real bear.
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Response to limpyhobbler (Reply #2)
Tue May 1, 2012, 05:09 PM
cstanleytech (5,310 posts)
10. Maybe, maybe not. If for example a disaster should happen be it earthquake or say a drought or
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something that was to cause crops to fail they might need a loan but be unable to get it as the banks have a legit reason now view them as an unreliable credit risk.
Like I said its just a benefit vs risk issue and I just hope they considered it carefully. |
Response to cstanleytech (Reply #1)
Tue May 1, 2012, 04:57 PM
zipplewrath (8,912 posts)
8. They may be compensated
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The article states that compensation negotiations will take place. It also mentions that the government has invested way more than the private sector. And this is something that was only privatized in the '90s.
This could be far less damaging as long as they compensate the companies for their capital investments. |
Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)
Tue May 1, 2012, 04:05 PM
RufusTFirefly (4,928 posts)
3. Great idea. Now how long before the US press starts referring to Morales as "Bolivian strongman"?
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The world's foremost imperial power can't be pleased with the precedent this sets.
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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)
Tue May 1, 2012, 04:10 PM
Cleita (64,539 posts)
4. Good! Basic services utilities should not be in the hands of profiteers.
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We should follow suit at a county or state level. I hope Morales doesn't get assassinated or something. He has been very good for Bolivia IMHO.
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Response to Cleita (Reply #4)
Thu May 3, 2012, 09:48 AM
hack89 (21,265 posts)
17. Lets hope that Bolivia has the money and other resources to maintain and grow the system
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that's the danger here - infrastructure is expensive and requires specific skills to manage.
The Venezuelan oil industry should serve as a warning here - oil production has been steadily declining for nearly a decade due to the lack of foreign investment and expertise. |
Response to hack89 (Reply #17)
Fri May 4, 2012, 01:18 PM
Cleita (64,539 posts)
18. That is the difference. Big international and American oil interests don't want Chavez
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in power because they don't want the oil to benefit the common people, which is what Chavez wants. There are no big international utility interests that give much of a hoot about what Morales is doing in Bolivia. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that this remains so.
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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)
Tue May 1, 2012, 04:44 PM
marmar (60,849 posts)
7. Latin America is setting the example.......
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Extract the multinational leeches -- it will do you a world of good. |
Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)
Tue May 1, 2012, 05:08 PM
progress2k12nbynd (221 posts)
9. Is there a purchase price in situations like this?
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Or are the original investors/employees just SOL?
And how do we duplicate in the USA? |
Response to progress2k12nbynd (Reply #9)
Tue May 1, 2012, 05:12 PM
cstanleytech (5,310 posts)
11. There is almost no chance it will happen here or atleast not unless there was a major shift in the
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legislature as well as the courts and I dont think thats likely to happen, not impossible mind you just unlikely.
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Response to progress2k12nbynd (Reply #9)
Tue May 1, 2012, 05:24 PM
Prometheus Bound (3,489 posts)
12. They negotiate compensation.
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But it usually seems to be a rather long process according to this article. I guess the preferred 'win-win' goal doesn't necessarily work in these sorts of negotiations.
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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)
Wed May 2, 2012, 02:43 PM
Judi Lynn (77,615 posts)
13. Bolivian president puts electricity back in public's hands
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Bolivian president puts electricity back in public's hands
Wednesday 02 May 2012 by Our Foreign Desk Bolivian President Evo Morales announced yesterday that his government is completing the nationalisation of Bolivia's electricity sector by seizing a Spanish firm's stake in the grid. Mr Morales told crowds massed outside the Government Palace for a May Day rally that bringing the country's power grid back into public ownership was "a fair homage to the workers and the Bolivian people who have fought for the recovery of their natural resources and basic services." The Movement for Socialism (MAS) government has contacted Spanish authorities to assure them that it will deliver fair compensation for the take-over of Red Electrica Espanola's (REE) assets. It has tasked an independent auditor with setting compensation to be paid to the Spanish company within 180 days. More: http://www.morningstaronline.co.uk/news/content/view/full/118538 |
Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)
Wed May 2, 2012, 03:04 PM
Citizen Worker (1,785 posts)
14. When will we invade and occupy?
Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)
Wed May 2, 2012, 03:11 PM
Comrade Grumpy (3,381 posts)
15. Bravo, Evo! His political party is called the Movement to Socialism.
Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)
Wed May 2, 2012, 08:55 PM
nanabugg (2,198 posts)
16. Good for them!!! We could learn a lot from our neighbors to the south. nt

