Sanders packs gym, stairwells in Iowa City
Source: Burlington Free Press
IOWA CITY, Iowa An estimated 1,100 people turned out to hear Bernie Sanders speak on the final day of his three-day campaign tour to the state.
Thea Pettitt, holding baby Lilith, stood among the crowd that spilled out of the gym in a downtown recreation center, appropriately abutting Burlington Street. Lilith sported a tiny T-shirt printed with the face of the Vermont senato
Read more: http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/story/news/politics/2015/05/30/sanders-packs-gym-stairwells-iowa-city/28225133/
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)kenfrequed
(7,865 posts)People are going to start thinking more about their options as time goes on. Hillary is no longer the only game in town and there will be a lot of movement of support now that other people are actually running.
Sander's differentiates himself from other candidates in the way he talks about issues. He discusses what policies he supports and how and why and spares us a lot of the typical platitudes we tend to hear. He sounds unpolished, off-the-cuff, and sincere and people and that has a surprising appeal to a lot of people. In a debate that is actually going to score him a lot of points over vague suggestions and sound-bites.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)and Bernie is NOT a real Democrat....and more and more Democrats will be aware of that...
ananda
(28,835 posts)He can think about the poor and the economy in a way
that many candidates cannot.
His campaign will never be about money or the rich.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)it doesnt mean everyone else in the election are not equally good...
Nor will ANY Democrats campaign be about money or the rich....sorry to disappoint you...
Hillary Clintons graph
madokie
(51,076 posts)if I was a betting man I'd bet the farm on that.
I like Hillary too but she will never be our president and again if I was a betting man I'd bet on that.
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Carewfan
(58 posts)I don't know where you got this, but this is Political Compass from 2008's elections
Source: Political Compass
4lbs
(6,831 posts)Here is more:
http://ontheissues.org/Hillary_Clinton.htm
The graph is at the bottom.
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CANDO
(2,068 posts)(Licked finger and felt the wind). Exactly why I looked for other options in 08, and will do so again in 16.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)hatrack
(59,578 posts).
jwirr
(39,215 posts)and non-farm workers live in that area. It is liberal and this is great. Bernie did very well in Iowa City because of the way he campaigns as himself.
As to the "he's not a Democrat" bull - tell me who people are comparing him to: FDR, RFLK, MLK. Not a Democrat?
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)nuff said....
He said himself SINCE his campaign that he is STILL not a Democrat. Because of that....he might not be able to even get on the ticket in some states...let me know when he truly embraces the Democratic Party not the other way around.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)Well, there is Charleston.
ForgoTheConsequence
(4,867 posts)Instead of shilling and disrupting, how about investing in a map and a history book?
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)A Real Democrat would have voted for the Iraq, war, would have supported Goldwater & stayed away from Selma in 1964, would never let themselves be arrested in a civil rights demonstration, would stay silent on Keystone and the TPP, would back everything Monsanto wants to do, and would rail against the demonization of Wall Street.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)yikes1
(22 posts)Hillary is not a democrat.
chknltl
(10,558 posts)This is the Democratic Underground. Most here are Democrats. Those who aren't often struggle with the difference between democrat and Democrat. Now don't get me wrong, most here are not too snooty when it comes to punctuation but statistics demonstrate that Democrats have a higher educational standard than Republicans do. It has a lot to do with our upbringing. You see our parents were big on getting us as much schooling as possible. Republican parents otoh, tend to drop their kids on their heads a lot. Like I said, it's all in the upbringing.
Welcome to the Democratic Underground
pangaia
(24,324 posts)where you were replying to the wrong posts.. while I was watching Chi Chi Gonzales make his very fine MLB debut--
I'll bite...
Just what IS a real Democrat?
NoJusticeNoPeace
(5,018 posts)is that the system and history has pushed the Dem party so far to the right, that Bernie is exactly what a real Democrat would be.
Hillary is too though and I refuse to further the discussion about how she isnt, which is done intentionally to decrease her chances at the polls.
Triana
(22,666 posts)That's true. He's more of a "Democrat" than many so-called "Democrats" the media actually pays attention to (and this is the reason they marginalize Bernie Sanders). I don't care wth letter follows his name, he is more of a Dem than most of them. To me, he's an FDR Dem and that's as Dem as you can get.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)I was actually born while FDR was still president. I was about 1 when he passed away. I remember him well. :> )
And, as I like to post occasionally, my mother, who was a 'stewardess' on American Airlines, was taught to knit by Eleanor Roosevelt on flights between DC and NY.
I have a photo of them together.
Is that cool, OR WHAT !!
Carewfan
(58 posts)Love that guy! Nice reference...
QC
(26,371 posts)Carewfan
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arcane1
(38,613 posts)CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)
lemmings who rarely speak out against the big banks, big Ag, big Pharma and other powerful corporate interests.
On DU, you can find all sorts of incredible fighting words about fighting corporate corruption, ending endless wars, helping the middle class and taking back our democracy from politicians who serve their corporate masters. Those are the words of REAL Democrats.
When is the last time you heard a Democrat passionately speaking about Citizens United or the fact that we are being spied on by our government? Where are the Democrats who denounce the neocons and their blood thirst for endless war? Who steps front and center and calls out these evil oil companies for their lies and their destruction of our planet? Where's the legislation that could fight the oil companies or the big banks?
There are a few lone voices, but basically--we hear next to nothing. They throw us some red meat when its election time, but other than that--most of our legislators do nothing about the systemic corruption that is destroying our democracy.
So, what the hell is a REAL Democrat these days? Frankly, 90 percent of Democrats on Capitol Hill appear to have been neutered years ago.
A REAL Democrat is someone who stands up for the middle class, isn't afraid to talk about making billionaires and millionaires pay fair taxes, and would nuke Citizens United from orbit. And they would speak passionately about these things and try to do something about it. That's a REAL Democrat, in my opinion.
INdemo
(6,994 posts)There are very few in Washington that I would label a Democrat. There are many Republican lites,and many that are Corpracrats. But who really gives a damn if Bernie Sanders is not a real Democrat?If he is a Democrat,Socialist,Independent ,I don't care. His message is sincere and honest and I am voting for him.
Voice for Peace
(13,141 posts)who are you?
CANDO
(2,068 posts)Bernie Sanders is far more democratic in his views and stances than most Democratic pols. It appears to me that far too many people are determined to vote for a woman just because she's a woman, rather than for a candidate who represents liberal values the best. The Clintons are political shape-shifters. They are licky-sticky politicians. (Lick finger and Stick it in the wind). When Bill Clinton signed NAFTA and Glass-Steagal, I vowed to do a much better job as a voter in discerning for whom I'm voting for.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)johnfunk
(6,113 posts)I like his message and his platform, but the media doesn't, hence their misrepresentation of a so-so satirical article he wrote four decades ago.
Sanders' campaign team should have been prepared for that debacle and pushed back hard - even doubling down on press and media bias against him.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)"in the game"....
kenfrequed
(7,865 posts)And Bernie Sanders is running for the Democratic nomination. His policy stances on the issues have been more progressive than the majority of the candidates running or investigating runs for the White House.
Thank you for your opinion, but I think I will stick with supporting Bernie here in Minnesota. If you ever change your mind about who you are supporting you are always welcome to join us!
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)he said so himself!
kenfrequed
(7,865 posts)He is a good guy and is right on all the issues and he speaks plainly and directly about policy and what he supports. He caucuses with the Democrats and has an excellent voting record. I am sorry you are so upset about the fact he has been more progressive as an independent than a lot of people that are Democrats have been. He is with those of us that are progressive and has been with that stance his entire career.
Personally I'm glad he has already sworn off being a spoiler he will support the Democratic nominee whoever that happens to be. Beyond this I don't think you should be telling progressives who they should be upset at when progressive Democrats have been told to compromise for candidates that were exceptionally conservative on a great number of issues but still happened to have a big (D) next to their name.
Again, I am sorry you feel this way
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)I feel sorry for you...
kenfrequed
(7,865 posts)What then? Will you support him if he wins the Democratic nomination?
I know you plan on saying "He won't" but just humor me on this. If Bernie Sanders wins the nomination, will you support him as the Democratic candidate?
Karma13612
(4,541 posts)I am supporting Bernie, but will vote for who ever the Democratic nominee is because the Republican alternative is a nightmare.
Notice that your question to this commenter has gone unanswered. I do indeed wonder what their alternative is if HRC does not win the nomination.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)give a girl a minute or two....you are not the only game in town....there are other threads on DU to respond to.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)and guess what? We are facing them holding 3 branches of government...and potentially THEM putting a 5th on the Supreme Court.....HE is a LOOOOOONG Shot...
And I as a woman.....am not willing to gamble that on a self described NON Democrat.
kenfrequed
(7,865 posts)Thank you for your conditional support.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)candidate that wins the primaries has less chance of winning in the general than the loser, what would you do to correct the problem?
Would you do away with democratically elected candidates, go back to the back room deals and leave the rank and file out of it? Did you feel that way in '08 when the front runner lost to a little known one term Senator? Or is it just this one time because you have a problem with one of the candidates?
jeff47
(26,549 posts)Right now, the Democratic nominee has 257 electoral votes. The Republican nominee has 149. Those numbers come from the safely "blue" and "red" states. To do worse than those numbers, the Democrat or the Republican has to do something awful in the general election campaign.
So to win, the Democratic nominee needs to win VA. That's it. Or OH. Or CO + IA. The Democrat needs 1 large or 2 small of the 10 "swing" states.
The Republican needs all 10 swing states, and has to turn a "blue" state. That's why the Republican campaign is such a clown car - the Republicans who can count to 270 realize this one isn't going to go their way.
Here's a post from a GOP'er giving a lot more detail on where those numbers come from.
Sanders is not a LOOOOOOOONG shot. Any Republican is a LOOOOOOOONG shot. Republicans need a status-quo centrist on the Democratic ticket to have any chance, because they need low Democratic turnout. The Republicans can't afford to have a bunch of young people inspired by something like "Hope and Change".
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)You cannot embrace someone who has the same values as the Democratic Party, and caucuses with them. Someone who has been appointed to a leadership position in the senate by the Democratic Party.
Someone who holds many of the same values as FDR (a Democrat).
I hope that at some point, that when Bernie is nominated as the Democratic Party candidate, you can vote for him.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)want to know who is ahead of him...
Hillary Clinton 44 % 43.9 % 56.5 %
Jeb Bush 18 % 18.4 % 29.5 %
Marco Rubio 10 % 10.4 % 22.0 %
Scott Walker 8 % 7.9 % 14.5 %
Rand Paul 5 % 4.8 % 12.5 %
Elizabeth Warren 4 % 3.8 % 6.5 %
Joe Biden 2 % 1.7 % 7.0 %
Martin OMalley 2 % 1.7 % 6.0 %
Chris Christie 1 % 0.9 % 6.5 %
Rahm Emanuel 1 % 0.5 % N/A
Bobby Jindal 1 % 1.3 % N/A
Al Gore 1 % 1.2 % N/A
Rick Perry 1 % 0.6 % N/A
Ben Carson 1 % 0.8 % N/A
Ted Cruz 1 % 0.9 % 9.0 %
Paul Ryan 0 % 0.3 % N/A
Rob Portman 0 % 0.1 % N/A
Andrew Cuomo 0 % 0.1 % N/A
Condoleezza Rice 0 % 0.1 % N/A
Michael Bloomberg 0 % 0.2 % 5.0 %
Susana Martinez 0 % 0.1 % N/A
Bob McDonnell 0 % 0.1 % N/A
Deval Patrick 0 % 0.1 % N/A
Jon Huntsman 0 % 0.3 % N/A
Sarah Palin 0 % 0.3 % 3.0 %
Cory Booker 0 % 0.1 % N/A
Joe Manchin 0 % 0.1 % N/A
Mitt Romney 0 % 0.3 % 2.5 %
He still hasnt even broken ^^^ that...
kenfrequed
(7,865 posts)I don't know whose numbers these are, what they represent, or when they were generated. Maybe you could elaborate on them a bit.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)kenfrequed
(7,865 posts)Interesting methodology they haven between bookies and market trading models.
I wouldn't trust the future of our nation on either of those systems of prediction.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)and they have to be good....or they will lose money or cred.
kenfrequed
(7,865 posts)I'm sorry, but either the data they are using is wildly out of date or the whole thing is just based on easy to spike speculation. Their bookies have a dozen people on the "likelihood of democratic domination" on their website that are NOT running and have no intention to run.
This is cluttered junk.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)SalviaBlue
(2,914 posts)thats what they say about banks, big ag, etc. Its not true though.
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jwirr
(39,215 posts)The baggage may not be true but it is also known. He has just started campaigning and he is on fire.
As to not beating in the general - the clown car is full of beatable people.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)We're dead meat...
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LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)We often allow the odds to outweigh our convictions. We also rationalize it as something else more often than not...
rurallib
(62,379 posts)anyone I have heard in 40 years.
Just to mention some names - Truman, Johnson, Kennedy, Humphrey
saying Sanders is not a Democrat is a BS position. It is like calling names when you run out of real ideas.
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wordpix
(18,652 posts)I'll vote for Bernie in my state's primary. Hopefully he'll still be a candidate then.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Was Johnson? Was Kennedy?
jwirr
(39,215 posts)who even appear to be in bed with them.
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jwirr
(39,215 posts)wordpix
(18,652 posts)like JFK and FDR were. I recognize that some wealthy people worked for their wealth, had good ideas and got lucky with them; also that they help those less fortunate. I just don't think HRC is the one to be out front leading the way on income inequality, being one of the 1%ers herself. Also, she and Bill C have made enormous sums giving speeches and I'm pretty sure a donor who pays Bill $500K for a speech expects something in return. And finally, we don't need dynastic presidents.
I'll vote for her if she's the candidate but I prefer O'Malley or Sanders.
DhhD
(4,695 posts)Can Hillary Clinton say that? No she can not.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)they have all held public office in the Beltway.
DhhD
(4,695 posts)Wall Street seems to be afraid of Warren and Sanders, but not Clinton.
I believe that Wall Street is even saying that they would be fine with either Bush or Clinton as president.
So an insider supports and works against the interest of the working people while taking care of the Elite, being compensated by both.
DhhD
(4,695 posts)VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Here is her graph...
Yeah....she looks like a real insider in that graph huh?
Sgt Preston
(133 posts)Oh, and it also shows that socialists do not exist!
cali
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hatrack
(59,578 posts)DU rocks!
heaven05
(18,124 posts)Bernie, so far to me, is much more a "real Democrat" than a lot of Democrats. You're only kidding yourself thinking Sen. Sanders doesn't have a legion of supporters out here with PLENTY OF TIME to get the word out. Period.
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INdemo
(6,994 posts)Obama is corpratist
cali
(114,904 posts)Yummy vanilla
Cosmocat
(14,558 posts)And, the people who are drumming up the fantasy that the powers to be a ignoring him out of fear will start balling about how badly he is being treated.
Howard Dean was the darling, then had his political career destroyed by a moment of genuine emotion ...
Barrack Obama literally spent months being hammered for not wearing a flag pin ...
We will know Bernie is in the game when he gets that kind of treatment.
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Cosmocat
(14,558 posts)An example of this occuring I presidential elections, please.
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TheNutcracker
(2,104 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)The clock is ticking...
Monday, February 1: Iowa caucus
Tuesday, February 9: New Hampshire
Saturday, February 20: South Carolina
Tuesday, February 23: Nevada caucus
How is Bernie polling vs Hillary right now?
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bluedigger
(17,085 posts)Unfortunately, I couldn't get past the first page without giving my email.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Mark it on your calendar...
bluedigger
(17,085 posts)That's really useless info.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)its the date of the kickoff of her campaign....
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)Some are motivated by ideology and ideology alone without regard to the realities of electoral politics. The tea party also has the same defect and they start electing loonier and loonier candidates with a hope that the whole country wants the racist, socially cruel, hyperchristian gun-toting candidates who want never ending wars.
We have our own (green) tea party that would support Lenin, Karl Marx or Dostoyevsky in the opposite belief that confiscatory and anti-entrepreneurial wealth distribution candidates will win. ("Populist" is the PC term)
Obama touched that spirit and won the nomination. He was lucky to have won the general election because the massive economic downturn, widespread layoffs, fear of bankruptcy and Sarah Palin were helping him. Bernie will not have the benefit of those but the green tea party has enough hope that he will pull an Obama in the general election.
What is scary is that most of the small state caucuses are populated by the extreme viewpoints and Bernie may actually win the nomination against Hillary like Obama did. If he does, get ready to practice saying President Scott Walker or President Jeb Bush.
Sad indeed.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Sounds like something Paul Ryan would say. Almost exactly.
Here we are with historically low tax rates and someone is WHINING about confiscatory anti-entrepreneurial wealth distribution.
But they're REAL Democrats. You know, real Democrats that love 'em some supply side economics.
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pangaia
(24,324 posts)". Lenin, Karl Marx or Dostoyevsky..."
pa28
(6,145 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Good to hear this on the Bernie Underground.
If by some sort of miracle Bernie beats Hillary for the nomination, we will without a doubt be locked into total republican control of the government and SCOTUS for the next 8 years.
I fear Bernie more than Cruz\Walker\Carson\Bush etc. Those jerks don't have a chance running against Hillary, but if its Bernie even that insane bastard Cruz can be the next POTUS and God help this country if that happens!
The MSM pretty much ignores Bernie now for obvious reasons. All their guns are aimed at Hillary.
If Bernie gets the nod, OMG the shitstorm against him will destroy his race in two weeks tops, I bet.
kenfrequed
(7,865 posts)I would be more concerned about the blue dogs and third way democrats sabotaging the hell out of him as was done against McGovern by certain democrats.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)I'm for Hillary but of course I'll vote for the democratic candidate that wins the nomination.
I'm not into sitting at home watching the world burn down because my favorite didn't win.
Teahaddists must be stopped. Period.
kenfrequed
(7,865 posts)I don't know how any Republican candidate they have can win at this point. Their policies and positions are somewhere between extreme and insane.
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cali
(114,904 posts)LuvNewcastle
(16,834 posts)Just a writer. He wasn't particularly political, although he seems to have been religious. Next time you want to rattle off some Russian names, choose Trotsky instead. You might not know who he was either, but at least it might look like you do.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)LuvNewcastle
(16,834 posts)I guess any Russian will do, right?
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)That guy was a real scoundrel!
LuvNewcastle
(16,834 posts)Boris and Natasha weren't just commies, but commie spies. Tchaikovsky was another famous Russian. You have to look out for those pesky musicians.
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azmom
(5,208 posts)rpannier
(24,328 posts)babylonsister
(171,034 posts)I'm sure people will post when she does, but there's absolutely nothing wrong with this, and your negativity isn't welcome.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)How is posting that she hasnt even kicked off her campaign yet negative? I guess anything that doesn't praise Bernie is negative now!
babylonsister
(171,034 posts)about Clinton but about Sanders. Why do you insist on trying to change the topic? Let him have his victory; you'll have plenty of opportunities to have yours.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)to have good things said about Bernie.
Don't worry, we still love you.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Give it a rest, Nilla
pangaia
(24,324 posts)democrank
(11,085 posts)She has been a national political figure for a long time, and she`s a woman running for president. She`s the wife of a former president, a former senator from New York, a former Secretary of State, to name a few positions that have helped with her high name recognition. It`s no surprise to me that a lot of people show up to her events. I wish her well.
It`s also no surprise to me that a lot of people are showing up at Bernie Sanders` events, since here in Vermont he always draws a crowd....a very, very diverse crowd. You`ll see almost as many pickups with rifle racks and NRA stickers at Bernie`s events as used Subaru wagons with COEXIST stickers. Vermonters know Bernie is a man of his word, which is why Bernie yard signs (and bumper stickers) stay up year round, whether there is a campaign or not.
I always vote on old-fashioned Democratic Party issues. If there was a Goldman-Sachs person in one corner and a Kentucky coal miner in the other, I know for absolute certain where Bernie would stand. Apparently a lot of people in Iowa are finding out the answer to who stands where.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)jeff47
(26,549 posts)Wouldn't attracting much more massive crowds be a GREAT tool for cutting off Sanders's and O'Malley's campaigns?
Lemme help by adding your meaningless reply: "Just wait!!". Like we have to wait for her position on the TPP.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)mountain grammy
(26,598 posts)And they're coming. Remember Mitt in that big empty hall?
Americans,wake up! I love the faces in the crowd. Can't wait to attend my first Bernie rally.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)appalachiablue
(41,103 posts)post it there, people will love to see this.
kenfrequed
(7,865 posts)I have to leave my computer soon!
appalachiablue
(41,103 posts)to see how many times Chuck Todd will try to get Bernie to talk about Hillary this am. Not Bernie's message. Most of the media does this to him frequently.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)just turned it on. I do not watch this shit, but I want to hear Bernie's possible slam of that tool called todd.
appalachiablue
(41,103 posts)heaven05
(18,124 posts)to like this guy.
appalachiablue
(41,103 posts)is not exactly career building so he can say what's going on.
Thom Hartmann has him on his radio/TV program every Friday, 12-1 for *'Brunch with Bernie', a Town Hall type segment where Bernie takes calls from people from all over he US to discuss issues.
He's been doing this more than 10 years, how many other pols would devote their time like this. The Friday 'Brunch with Bernie' is posted here weekly, and on YouTube.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)thom hartman I used to listen to that segment a lot. I like Sen. Sanders thinking. He was ALWAYS concerned about us, what used to be a thriving middle class, of which he was one of the first, I believe, to point out the ongoing destruction of. Hope that is lucid. Just saw Todd try to muddy things up with that 'article' from 43 years ago concerning women and men. Excellent response from Sen. Sanders.....
Cosmocat
(14,558 posts)It is a matter of seeing if he gets some real air under his sails, and if so how he handles it when he gets the full treatment ...
heaven05
(18,124 posts)I just returned home from an --- ----- for Bernie meeting. Quite the group. Young, old, students, even a high school student who talked his HRC leaning mother into coming and listening. She ended up quite lively in suggestion making on how to increase the group's effectiveness and get Bernie's name recognition up. We talked booths for art fair this summer and fall student return, voter registration, coordination with Bernie groups in the state, of which one member was actively pursuing, and what effect we could have individually in our workplaces and with friends, strangers and relatives. The power of Facebook and Twitter in our efforts. Quite the excitement. If we maintain it, we will win. The primary is in March, so we're working.....
Cosmocat
(14,558 posts)This is what he needs.
merrily
(45,251 posts)AzDar
(14,023 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)HassleCat
(6,409 posts)For a second, I thought the headline said, "Sanders packs gun..."
midnight
(26,624 posts)SoapBox
(18,791 posts)He talks issues!
Let the others argue amongst themselves.
Boomer
(4,167 posts)If Bernie Sanders isn't a "real" Democrat, then so much the worse for the Democratic Party.
I don't care what people call him, I'm voting for him. If he was running as an Independent, then I'd leave the Democratic Party to vote for him because he reflects my views better than any other person running for president.
If you're a "real" Democrat, you should be thankful that Sanders IS running in the Democratic party because he won't end up playing a spoiler that fractures the Democratic vote and hands the election to the Republicans. If Clinton wins the nomination, as most people expect that she will, she will have my vote at the polls in November.
cascadiance
(19,537 posts)... many years ago.
Great that he spoke near Burlington St. Also good that his staff made sure not to have the optics of speaking at this street corner (at least this week).
https://www.google.com/maps/%4041.657874,-91.534767,3a,75y,141.18h,88.95t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s3iRXTWJAfSTsFsX9LhFD7g!2e0
on the corner of Clinton Street and Burlington Street there, where they are building a new art museum there soon.
Maybe he and Hillary could have an outdoor debate near that street corner closer to the Iowa caucuses and debate on who could rebuild America best!
cascadiance
(19,537 posts)... and yet is ranked the 8th most educated city IN THE COUNTRY here...
https://smartasset.com/student-loans/the-top-ten-most-educated-cities-in-america
I hope that Bernie made the point that this college town is a perfect showcase of why we need to work towards eliminating student debt, and to stop the gravy train to the rich, when one of the most educated city in the country has such a high poverty level!
I myself wasn't aware of how bad it has gotten since I left, and hadn't been back for quite a few years now.
He should make sure and make that point when he returns here for the Iowa caucuses. I'm sure that the University crowd there would cheer him on!
That and address climate change, which has probably affected Iowa residents wealth a lot with the slew of flooding from many storms over recent years that have done much damage to that town then.
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(18,124 posts)just came from an organizing event where that was used.......loved it.
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