Tue May 1, 2012, 09:52 AM
IDemo (12,305 posts)
5 anarchists nabbed in plot to blow up Cleveland bridgeLast edited Tue May 1, 2012, 10:27 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1)
Source: msnbc.com
Federal agents have arrested five people who were plotting to blow up a bridge in Cleveland, Ohio, an incident not connected to the anniversary of former al-Qaida chief Osama bin Laden's death, officials say. The five were nabbed in what amounted to an FBI sting, and agents had them under extensive surveillance for a long period of time. "There was never any danger," one federal official said. Federal officials say three of the five men charged with plotting to blow up the bridge describe themselves as anarchists who considered a series of evolving plots over several months. Read more: http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/01/11485641-5-anarchists-nabbed-in-plot-to-blow-up-cleveland-bridge?lite
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| IDemo | May 2012 | OP | |
| slackmaster | May 2012 | #1 | |
| independentpiney | May 2012 | #4 | |
| snooper2 | May 2012 | #41 | |
| independentpiney | May 2012 | #43 | |
| yurbud | May 2012 | #72 | |
| may3rd | May 2012 | #75 | |
| HereSince1628 | May 2012 | #11 | |
| Telly Savalas | May 2012 | #58 | |
| yurbud | May 2012 | #73 | |
| Lydia Leftcoast | May 2012 | #16 | |
| iamthebandfanman | May 2012 | #33 | |
| BadtotheboneBob | May 2012 | #37 | |
| WCGreen | May 2012 | #55 | |
| Posteritatis | May 2012 | #46 | |
| joshcryer | May 2012 | #50 | |
| may3rd | May 2012 | #80 | |
| liberal N proud | May 2012 | #2 | |
| IDemo | May 2012 | #3 | |
| Ganja Ninja | May 2012 | #5 | |
| Baitball Blogger | May 2012 | #9 | |
| xtraxritical | May 2012 | #21 | |
| Baitball Blogger | May 2012 | #30 | |
| snooper2 | May 2012 | #42 | |
| Baitball Blogger | May 2012 | #48 | |
| Honeycombe8 | May 2012 | #47 | |
| Ford_Prefect | May 2012 | #6 | |
| IDemo | May 2012 | #7 | |
| mn9driver | May 2012 | #8 | |
| Common Sense Party | May 2012 | #13 | |
| mn9driver | May 2012 | #28 | |
| joshcryer | May 2012 | #52 | |
| Renew Deal | May 2012 | #10 | |
| Fuddnik | May 2012 | #12 | |
| SnowCritter | May 2012 | #14 | |
| FedUpWithIt All | May 2012 | #15 | |
| villager | May 2012 | #17 | |
| tcaudilllg | May 2012 | #19 | |
| WHEN CRABS ROAR | May 2012 | #45 | |
| joshcryer | May 2012 | #53 | |
| may3rd | May 2012 | #70 | |
| villager | May 2012 | #76 | |
| Marzupialis | May 2012 | #18 | |
| tcaudilllg | May 2012 | #20 | |
| Marzupialis | May 2012 | #22 | |
| tcaudilllg | May 2012 | #24 | |
| Kolesar | May 2012 | #23 | |
| stockholmer | May 2012 | #25 | |
| Common Sense Party | May 2012 | #44 | |
| may3rd | May 2012 | #69 | |
| msanthrope | May 2012 | #26 | |
| redqueen | May 2012 | #27 | |
| Odin2005 | May 2012 | #29 | |
| onehandle | May 2012 | #31 | |
| Kolesar | May 2012 | #32 | |
| iamthebandfanman | May 2012 | #34 | |
| nobodyspecial | May 2012 | #40 | |
| joshcryer | May 2012 | #54 | |
| may3rd | May 2012 | #67 | |
| flamingdem | May 2012 | #35 | |
| iandhr | May 2012 | #36 | |
| may3rd | May 2012 | #68 | |
| Turbineguy | May 2012 | #38 | |
| Psephos | May 2012 | #59 | |
| rayofreason | May 2012 | #71 | |
| may3rd | May 2012 | #74 | |
| Psephos | May 2012 | #77 | |
| chrisa | May 2012 | #39 | |
| marble falls | May 2012 | #49 | |
| sarcasmo | May 2012 | #51 | |
| slackmaster | May 2012 | #60 | |
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Response to IDemo (Original post)
Tue May 1, 2012, 09:54 AM
slackmaster (60,567 posts)
1. More agents provocateurs?
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Response to slackmaster (Reply #1)
Tue May 1, 2012, 10:09 AM
independentpiney (1,172 posts)
4. Very possible
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I'm reading a book now on the Spanish Civil War, and how the right wing did everything they could to paralyze the Republic politically much like our current republicans, and pulled off all sorts of false flag operations to prove that the progressives couldn't provide safety and stability. I'm finding the similarities really ominous.
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Response to independentpiney (Reply #4)
Tue May 1, 2012, 05:43 PM
snooper2 (16,623 posts)
41. Well if (huge IF rofl) they are, they REALLY got the look down
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I mean, whoever they are paying to do the makeup and attire and hair is doing a fabulous job!
I mean, they should at least get a 100% bonus..Look at this work!
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Response to snooper2 (Reply #41)
Tue May 1, 2012, 05:51 PM
independentpiney (1,172 posts)
43. Yikes! Those are some 'dos nt
Response to snooper2 (Reply #41)
Fri May 4, 2012, 12:33 PM
yurbud (31,406 posts)
72. those guys look like they couldn't form a plot more complex than carpooling to their meth dealer
Response to yurbud (Reply #72)
Fri May 4, 2012, 03:35 PM
may3rd (593 posts)
75. They said they were employee's of OWS in Cleveland.... so, wonder how much that pays,
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they should have opening posted if that's the case. These guys are going on extended sabbatical
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Response to slackmaster (Reply #1)
Tue May 1, 2012, 10:54 AM
HereSince1628 (26,670 posts)
11. Anytime a report about anarchists is released on May Day and says 'infiltrated'
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we must leave open the possibility that the plot was actually directed by an agent and part of a larger strategy to discredit some group or cause.
The targets of these co-conspirators somehow grew from attacks on corporate signage to blowing up a bridge on federal land. Think about that. The choice of action escalated from vandalism to multiple federal felony offenses. The 'infiltrator' or 'infiltrators' was/were apparently involved at a time when the 'target' was being determined. |
Response to HereSince1628 (Reply #11)
Tue May 1, 2012, 11:23 PM
Telly Savalas (9,841 posts)
58. Given that the anarchist movement has zero traction in the US
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why would anyone need to go out of their way to discredit the group?
There are more moderate elements (and I mean like Kucinichy types and the Green Party) that have considerably more likelihood of exercising any influence over public opinion. Why not target them instead? |
Response to Telly Savalas (Reply #58)
Fri May 4, 2012, 03:17 PM
yurbud (31,406 posts)
73. this does target them by tainting the brand and while the NAME doesn't get any traction, some of the
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ideas are gaining: horizontal democracy instead of hierarchy, especially in the work place, the open source software movement, even things like Wikipedia are anarchist and cooperative at their core.
As an idea, anarchism is more dangerous than centralized communism to the financial elite. If you have one dictator or a junta in a communist country, the rich can use their standard tricks to corrupt or coerce those at the top (at least from the outside). If power is truly shared, that's a lot harder to do. Case in point: cooperatively run businesses versus corporations. Can you do a leveraged buyout or outsource all the jobs of a company where the employees have at least as much voice as investors? That is so disturbing to the rich that one of the conditions NATO imposed on the dismembered Yugoslavia was that they privatize the last of their collective industries even though they were doing just fine in that mode. |
Response to slackmaster (Reply #1)
Tue May 1, 2012, 11:07 AM
Lydia Leftcoast (46,806 posts)
16. I've seen agents provocateurs in action
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They definitely exist.
Most of them are so clumsily obvious that older members of Occupy and other groups can easily spot them. But I can see how young and stupid activists could be persuaded. |
Response to slackmaster (Reply #1)
Tue May 1, 2012, 01:01 PM
iamthebandfanman (6,744 posts)
33. nah, im thinking just morons.
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Last edited Tue May 1, 2012, 01:06 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) i think some of you are too quick to blame a conspiracy when it comes to these things..
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Response to iamthebandfanman (Reply #33)
Tue May 1, 2012, 02:11 PM
BadtotheboneBob (356 posts)
37. Have to agree with you...
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... after looking at the pictures of the accused. All five have that moronic look in their eyes. Plus, provocateurs usually make good their escape. These guys are going down hard.
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Response to BadtotheboneBob (Reply #37)
Tue May 1, 2012, 09:55 PM
WCGreen (44,936 posts)
55. They have a defiant look about them...
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They are probably on the outside looking in every where they go except when the are together and they feel as if they are part of something...
They probably have dead end jobs, are just lurching from one scheme to another trying to find someone to blame for their failures in life... I worked in a blue collar bar when the future was being let out of their lives when the big auto plants around here started to scale back... They have no place to go, no place to feel is their own so they are easily talked into doing something stupid. Planning to do a little theatrical vandalism on the Hope Bridge is a far cry from blowing up the turn pike bridge over the Cuyahoga Valley. |
Response to slackmaster (Reply #1)
Tue May 1, 2012, 07:06 PM
Posteritatis (17,288 posts)
46. Agents idiotiques strikes me as more likely. (nt)
Response to slackmaster (Reply #1)
Tue May 1, 2012, 09:40 PM
joshcryer (39,752 posts)
50. Yes, they were under surveillance for a "long time."
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You don't have long term surveillance without having a mole, and likely one who goads idiots into saying and doing things they wouldn't otherwise do. Somehow this is "legal." The entire Green Scare was trumped up crazy with a young woman who wound up entrapping the entire group.
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Response to joshcryer (Reply #50)
Mon May 7, 2012, 06:43 PM
may3rd (593 posts)
80. Bomb plot suspect leases Occupy warehouse in Ohio
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One of five men arrested in an alleged Ohio bridge bombing plot signed the lease for the warehouse that's home to about a dozen protesters from the Occupy Cleveland movement, which is working to get the man's name removed from the lease, a group spokesman said. The $600 monthly rent for the warehouse was paid to a landlord, not to suspect Anthony Hayne, group spokesman Joseph Zitt told The Plain Dealer. "We needed a name on the lease, and he agreed to be it," Zitt said. Hayne, 35, is among the five suspects accused of trying to bomb a highway bridge south Read more: http://www.newsnet5.com/dpp/news/local_news/oh_cuyahoga/bomb-plot-suspect-leases-occupy-warehouse-in-ohio#ixzz1uE6vC37K |
Response to IDemo (Original post)
Tue May 1, 2012, 09:58 AM
liberal N proud (43,742 posts)
2. Link only goes to a photo
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But looking around, that is all the News Channel 5 is posting.
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Response to liberal N proud (Reply #2)
Tue May 1, 2012, 10:00 AM
IDemo (12,305 posts)
3. I'm seeing the story as well
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Just verified the link is working from my browser, anyway.
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Response to IDemo (Original post)
Tue May 1, 2012, 10:23 AM
Ganja Ninja (15,714 posts)
5. Sounds like right wing militia types.
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According to a news release from the US Attorney’s Office, these three were arrested Monday evening and charged with conspiracy and attempted use of explosive material to damage physical property affecting interstate commerce:
- Douglas Wright, 26 - Brandon Baxter, 20 - Anthony Hayne, 35 These two men were also arrested, but charges are pending: - Connor Stevens, 20 - Joshua Stafford, 23 |
Response to Ganja Ninja (Reply #5)
Tue May 1, 2012, 10:45 AM
Baitball Blogger (11,295 posts)
9. They must be white or they would have called them terrorists.
Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #9)
Tue May 1, 2012, 11:26 AM
xtraxritical (2,980 posts)
21. Stuff your racist bullshit.
Response to xtraxritical (Reply #21)
Tue May 1, 2012, 11:59 AM
Baitball Blogger (11,295 posts)
30. I'm watching you.
Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #30)
Tue May 1, 2012, 05:45 PM
snooper2 (16,623 posts)
42. Is this your theme song?
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Response to snooper2 (Reply #42)
Tue May 1, 2012, 08:22 PM
Baitball Blogger (11,295 posts)
48. LOL!
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Love it!
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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #9)
Tue May 1, 2012, 07:12 PM
Honeycombe8 (18,006 posts)
47. The article said they were "self described anarchists." It goes w/o saying they're also terrorists.
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If they have a cause. You have to have a cause to be considered a terrorist, I think.
In other words, you can be both an anarchist AND a terrorist. |
Response to IDemo (Original post)
Tue May 1, 2012, 10:24 AM
Ford_Prefect (252 posts)
6. Hutaree Redux?
Response to IDemo (Original post)
Tue May 1, 2012, 10:29 AM
IDemo (12,305 posts)
7. Updated with a less Fox-y source /nt
Response to IDemo (Original post)
Tue May 1, 2012, 10:35 AM
mn9driver (1,008 posts)
8. At least a couple of these names/ages are associated with Occupy Cleveland.
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It will be interesting to see just exactly what they are accused of, and how the FBI got its evidence.
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Response to mn9driver (Reply #8)
Tue May 1, 2012, 10:59 AM
Common Sense Party (13,028 posts)
13. They are? Who? And how do you know?
Response to Common Sense Party (Reply #13)
Tue May 1, 2012, 11:57 AM
mn9driver (1,008 posts)
28. Google. Example:
Response to mn9driver (Reply #8)
Tue May 1, 2012, 09:42 PM
joshcryer (39,752 posts)
52. They likely got them talking crazy talk and then at least one of them...
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...was goaded into seeking out supplies.
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Response to IDemo (Original post)
Renew Deal This message was self-deleted by its author.
Response to IDemo (Original post)
Tue May 1, 2012, 10:59 AM
Fuddnik (4,448 posts)
12. Bullshit plot.
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I'm familiar with that bridge. I almost bought a couple of houses below it about 30 years ago. It's a BIG fucking bridge.
And it would take trained demolition professionals and a lot of explosives to do any real damage to it. |
Response to IDemo (Original post)
Tue May 1, 2012, 11:05 AM
SnowCritter (315 posts)
14. Oh, heck, just give it time!
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If the Republicans have their way it'll just fall down by itself due to lack of maintenance. Lord knows they don't want to fund maintenance, repairs and improvement of infrastructure.
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Response to IDemo (Original post)
FedUpWithIt All This message was self-deleted by its author.
Response to IDemo (Original post)
Tue May 1, 2012, 11:19 AM
villager (18,986 posts)
17. An "FBI Sting?" So actually, the idea was the FBI's plant, who probably pushed the others
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...to go along with it, so they could make their arrests...
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Response to villager (Reply #17)
Tue May 1, 2012, 11:22 AM
tcaudilllg (1,553 posts)
19. I agree: this was all about discrediting May Day.
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Last edited Tue May 1, 2012, 11:22 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1) And OWS. And intimidating people into not participating in the rallies.
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Response to villager (Reply #17)
Tue May 1, 2012, 06:51 PM
WHEN CRABS ROAR (2,524 posts)
45. This seems to be a common FBI pattern.
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Involving an undercover informant or agent, always a sting operation, usually a device that won't work and a perfect press release saying " We saved you once again, were on top of it."
But think about it, how many actual attacks by groups have really occurred in the USA? |
Response to villager (Reply #17)
Tue May 1, 2012, 09:42 PM
joshcryer (39,752 posts)
53. Exactly. Green Scare 101.
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And they probably didn't get very far, probably late night drunken musings and then someone was sent to seek out supplies, and pow.
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Response to villager (Reply #17)
Fri May 4, 2012, 09:28 AM
may3rd (593 posts)
70. Meet the FBI's Informant in the Bridge Bombing Case; Shaquille Azir
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Seems his reality check bounced has prior convictions for cocaine possession (1990), robbery (1991), and four convictions for passing bad checks between 1991 and 2011, according to the bombing complaint. No mention is made, however, of Azir’s two pending criminal cases. |
Response to may3rd (Reply #70)
Sat May 5, 2012, 01:35 PM
villager (18,986 posts)
76. One imagines the MSM will somehow emphasize this less than the arrests...
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n/t
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Response to IDemo (Original post)
Tue May 1, 2012, 11:19 AM
Marzupialis (398 posts)
18. Whose idea was it to blow up the bridge at first?
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Did these people discuss blowing the bridge before the FBI agent got involved? or did the FBI agent offer to blow up the bridge before the men considered doing it at all?
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Response to Marzupialis (Reply #18)
Tue May 1, 2012, 11:24 AM
tcaudilllg (1,553 posts)
20. Apparently the FBI put them up to it.
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They were planning on just throwing down some bank/hedge fund signs, but then the FBI plant played a little 1984 with their heads.
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Response to tcaudilllg (Reply #20)
Tue May 1, 2012, 11:26 AM
Marzupialis (398 posts)
22. I've seen this type of "plot" very often recently
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Many people who do not bother to read the whole details will probably picture this in their minds as a heroic life-saving act by the fBI. That's why the FBI does it: to congratulate itself via their loyal messenger: the uncritical MSM.
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Response to Marzupialis (Reply #22)
Tue May 1, 2012, 11:31 AM
tcaudilllg (1,553 posts)
24. There is someone in there who is playing with a KGB-style deck.
Response to IDemo (Original post)
Tue May 1, 2012, 11:26 AM
Kolesar (29,330 posts)
23. RWers have figured out that the men were part of Occupy Cleveland
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They protested the foreclosure of a home.
I am not going to send web-traffic to them by posting their url. |
Response to IDemo (Original post)
Tue May 1, 2012, 11:33 AM
stockholmer (3,751 posts)
25. typical FBI-run bullshit false flag op
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A person has to be a true fool to believe anything remotely like this anymore.
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Response to stockholmer (Reply #25)
Tue May 1, 2012, 05:53 PM
Common Sense Party (13,028 posts)
44. A person has to be a true fool to listen to some stranger who says,
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"Hey! I'll give you some explosives if you go blow something up!" and then actually go with that person.
Why these mugs didn't hightail it out of there, I have no idea. If someone is too stupid to smell an obvious FBI sting, then they deserve jail. |
Response to Common Sense Party (Reply #44)
Fri May 4, 2012, 09:14 AM
may3rd (593 posts)
69. "Hey! I'll give you some explosives if you go blow something up!"
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And then after they assemble the fake explosives as instructed,
they pressed the buttons fully expecting to not kill people on a state route bridge ? The story is a Judas was paid $6,000 to keep these loonies on the path over the past year. These guys had a lot of time to report him to the FBI for wanting to destroy property built by the gas tax those motorists used to cross that bridge. moot point now. How many of these 'sting' operations actually ended up with people turning the tables on the stool pigeon ? Those are statistics that will never be revealed |
Response to IDemo (Original post)
Tue May 1, 2012, 11:41 AM
msanthrope (16,505 posts)
26. Idjits. nt
Response to IDemo (Original post)
Tue May 1, 2012, 11:57 AM
redqueen (102,452 posts)
27. Reminds me of something I read on DU a while back.
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How can you tell which member of a group is the mole?
It's the one who wants to blow things up. |
Response to IDemo (Original post)
Tue May 1, 2012, 11:58 AM
Odin2005 (48,255 posts)
29. "Sting Operation" = Entrapment.
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They got an agent to convince bunch of naive idiots to do something stupid so they could arrest them and play the "Scary Leftist Radical" card on May Day. Fuck them!
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Response to IDemo (Original post)
Tue May 1, 2012, 12:05 PM
onehandle (35,472 posts)
31. No tangible details in the article, whatsoever.
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So I assume Faux will 'fill in the blanks' for us.
Right now we're supposed to imagine the 'dirty hippie anarchists' from the Dirty Harry movies. Need more info, Feds. |
Response to IDemo (Original post)
Tue May 1, 2012, 12:32 PM
Kolesar (29,330 posts)
32. Get to Know Your Cleveland Anarchist Wannabe Bridge Bombers
Response to Kolesar (Reply #32)
Tue May 1, 2012, 01:06 PM
iamthebandfanman (6,744 posts)
34. yikes. too me, this looks like the act
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of bored people with way too much time on their hands.
besides, they say the FBI agent was with them undercover for a long time.. no telling how they pushed or poked people to move forward. |
Response to iamthebandfanman (Reply #34)
Tue May 1, 2012, 05:40 PM
nobodyspecial (2,009 posts)
40. No matter how much I was poked or proded, I would *never* go along with such a plan
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and would be the one alerting police on the idea.
I love how absent any evidence, that so many discredit any involvement. I do believe plants exist, but I don't think you truthfully can say one way or another until you have more evidence. |
Response to nobodyspecial (Reply #40)
Tue May 1, 2012, 09:48 PM
joshcryer (39,752 posts)
54. The FBI couldn't have run such a long operation without a plant.
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Usually what actually happens is there was someone who called the police, alerted the police on the idea, and they were the ones who turned and became the plant. So a late night drunken crazy talk session about doing something stupid becomes a long term affair where idiots actually start to think their friend is all for it.
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Response to Kolesar (Reply #32)
Fri May 4, 2012, 08:18 AM
may3rd (593 posts)
67. On Brandon Baxter's (alleged) Face book profile, he lists his political views as "anarcho-communist,"
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A visit to the OWS cleveland FB page shows they have distanced themselves while unions that planned to rally on the square on mayday canceled their official plans.
interesting article you linked |
Response to IDemo (Original post)
Tue May 1, 2012, 01:27 PM
flamingdem (22,704 posts)
35. Who WASN'T a self-proclaimed anarchist in their early 20s?
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These guys don't seem too bright however to get sucked in like that to the FBI operation.
Most of the time it's just an idealistic stage in life and portends the likelihood of becoming a decent enough democratic-ish Citizen down the line. No loss to the Occupy movement that's for sure. |
Response to IDemo (Original post)
Tue May 1, 2012, 01:33 PM
iandhr (2,247 posts)
36. My question is how stupid are these people to fall for a sting.
Response to iandhr (Reply #36)
Fri May 4, 2012, 08:20 AM
may3rd (593 posts)
68. The FBI used one of them to sell out the others
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for $6,000
to buy drugs. He has long since returned to jail for other issues |
Response to IDemo (Original post)
Tue May 1, 2012, 04:49 PM
Turbineguy (16,548 posts)
38. Breitbart
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describes them as Occupy leaders.
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Response to Turbineguy (Reply #38)
Tue May 1, 2012, 11:23 PM
Psephos (6,854 posts)
59. 3 of them said they "worked at #OccupyCleveland" on their FB pages.
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For what it's worth.
Can't say anything about BreitFart, given that I don't give that site traffic. |
Response to Psephos (Reply #59)
Fri May 4, 2012, 10:05 AM
rayofreason (2,259 posts)
71. #OccupyCleveland praises Bradon Baxtor on their front page...
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Last edited Fri May 4, 2012, 10:37 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1) Yes, that correct.
Go to http://occupycleveland.com/ and you will find the statement May 1, 2012 – Cleveland – While the persons arrested Monday evening by the FBI have participated in Occupy Cleveland events, they were in no way representing or acting on behalf of Occupy Cleveland. Scroll down a bit to a video. Below the video is this text: On the morning of March 5th, Occupy Cleveland, in conjunction with labor and community organizations, marched from Public Square to the Justice Center. Every Monday morning, in a room on the first floor, there is a sheriff auction of foreclosed properties. Our aim was to shut it down. 5 very brave young men (Peter, Jonnie, Brandon, James and Ston) waited in the room where the auction was taking place for their cue. (emphasis added) Well that "Brandon" is none other that Brandon Baxter, as can be seen in the video at 1:32. Just compare to his picture. http://articles.cnn.com/2012-05-01/justice/justice_ohio-bridge-arrests_1_plastic-explosives-explosive-materials-fbi-sting?_s=PM:JUSTICE So we have a disclaimer and a bit later this same "brave young" Brandon is being lauded for an Occupy action. What constitutes "representing?" It seems he also organized events. Like last weekend. https://www.facebook.com/events/386018258086292/ I wonder when someone will notice and start scrubbing? |
Response to rayofreason (Reply #71)
Fri May 4, 2012, 03:32 PM
may3rd (593 posts)
74. That's the funny thing about FB
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MOST people have accounts and LOVE to have as many friends as possible and the FB formula is a way to run tabs on most anyone you want to look up in their search engine these days Kind of a secret personal tracking record available to anybody who joins FB.
fascinating, no wonder people get upset at prospective employers want to look at their FB page. TMI . |
Response to rayofreason (Reply #71)
Sat May 5, 2012, 11:33 PM
Psephos (6,854 posts)
77. This loser is antimatter to all that OWS represents.
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"Brave young" Brandon indeed - he hung a "kick me" sign on the backs of legitimate protesters.
The correct term for people plotting to blow up bridges in Cleveland is "conspirators to commit homicide." From the same clade as arsonists. |
Response to IDemo (Original post)
Tue May 1, 2012, 05:14 PM
chrisa (3,365 posts)
39. Holy crap those haircuts
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The 'Saturday Night Fever throwbacks' combined with 'WoW nerd that still lives with his mom' look.
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Response to IDemo (Original post)
Tue May 1, 2012, 08:22 PM
marble falls (1,909 posts)
49. Sounds like Nixon and Viet Nam in his first year.
Response to IDemo (Original post)
Tue May 1, 2012, 09:41 PM
sarcasmo (13,550 posts)
51. Makes me think of the Anarchist in the Big Lebowski.
Response to sarcasmo (Reply #51)
Tue May 1, 2012, 11:49 PM
slackmaster (60,567 posts)
60. YM Nihilists, people who care about nothing
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"Say what you will about the tenets of National Socialism; at least it was an ethos"
- Walter |
Response to slackmaster (Reply #60)
Wed May 2, 2012, 11:26 AM
sarcasmo (13,550 posts)
65. That's right, Nihlists, Thanks. It's been a few since I watched that great movie.
Response to IDemo (Original post)
Tue May 1, 2012, 10:19 PM
truthisfreedom (17,677 posts)
56. Ok, just a clue for really really stupid people?
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Stay away from anarchists. Anarchy doesn't work for stupid people. You have to have a brain to understand the premise. Stick with being republican.
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Response to IDemo (Original post)
Tue May 1, 2012, 11:16 PM
Zax2me (2,515 posts)
57. They look hideous! Shower anyone?!
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And how many days before the motley crew is proven to be piss-ass right wing activists?
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Response to Zax2me (Reply #57)
Tue May 1, 2012, 11:51 PM
slackmaster (60,567 posts)
61. To be fair, they WERE revolting
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Response to slackmaster (Reply #61)
Wed May 2, 2012, 07:50 AM
Zax2me (2,515 posts)
63. They ARE revolting. To those of us who shower.
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But I BET MONEY they get tied to a RW group within a few days.
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Response to Zax2me (Reply #57)
Tue May 8, 2012, 04:52 AM
Quantess (23,969 posts)
83. I would bet they are meth abusers
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They have that worn-out meth appearance. They look a bit rough for their ages. Their mugshots look about 5 to 10 years older than their stated ages.
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Response to IDemo (Original post)
Wed May 2, 2012, 12:11 AM
grantcart (38,746 posts)
62. there are two agonizingly stupid groups of people that are invariably caught
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and then astonished at what happens; 1) Unattractive adult males who meet a 14 year old over the internet who are desperate to have their first sexual experiment with them and are astonished to find Chris Hansen at the home instead of the 14 year old. 2) People who want to blow something up and get the bomb from an outsider and then are astonished when they push the trigger and are astonished that a few minutes later they are being read their rights. How idiotic do you have to be to believe that you can contact somebody and that person is going to delivery a bomb. If someone says they are bringing you a bomb, they are bringing it from the FBI. You would have a better chance finding a 14 year old in the internet that is dying to meet you. |
Response to IDemo (Original post)
Wed May 2, 2012, 05:13 PM
lib2DaBone (8,124 posts)
66. Beavis and Butthead meet Homeland Security Undercover Agents...
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Last edited Wed May 2, 2012, 05:21 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) Read in one article they were going to spray graffiti on a bridge.. until they met the FBI undercover Agent provocateur... who gave them phony explosive devices and convinced them that blowing up the bridge was way more fun.
"Hey Beavis.. let's go get some Nachos. ... No.. lets blow up a bridge over the park.. ya ..cool heh heh heh .." heh heh
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Response to IDemo (Original post)
Sun May 6, 2012, 11:46 AM
marble falls (1,909 posts)
78. Or "Beavis and Butthead Meet their Evil Twins"
Response to IDemo (Original post)
Mon May 7, 2012, 06:35 PM
may3rd (593 posts)
79. Bridge bomb suspects plead not guilty; Occupy Cleveland members show up to support suspects
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Dozen show up at courthouse to support the self proclaimed anarchists
An undercover informant working with the FBI had provided the group with an inert bomb. Baxter’s attorney told NewsChannel5 the informant, who has a long criminal record, coached the suspects. All five suspects will remain in federal custody, as their detention hearing was postponed. NewsChannel5 will continue to follow this case. Keep checking newsnet5.com for more information. Read more: http://www.newsnet5.com/dpp/news/local_news/cleveland_metro/bridge-bomb-suspects-plead-not-guilty-occupy-cleveland-members-show-up-to-support-suspects#ixzz1uE4iw1mz |
Response to may3rd (Reply #79)
Mon May 7, 2012, 08:48 PM
joshcryer (39,752 posts)
82. Total entrapment.
Response to IDemo (Original post)
Mon May 7, 2012, 07:05 PM
BadgerKid (3,729 posts)
81. Hmmm...and on the same day as CIA catches an underwear would-be bomber.
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While I'm "pro" catching the bad guys, I have to wonder a little bit about the stream of news lately:
bridge plot foiled by FBI underwear plot foiled by CIA FBI saying it needs wiretap-ready web sites NOW! FBI saying the war against hackers is being lost Drones allowed to fly the skies It smacks of a world of increasing surveillance and potentially decreasing privacy. |


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