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Fri Apr 27, 2012, 01:26 PM

GOP ignores veto threat, passes student loan bill

Source: Boston Herald

Republicans have ignored a White House veto threat and passed a bill to keep interest rates on millions of federal student loans from doubling this summer.

The House approved the bill Friday on a 215-195 vote, despite pressure from conservative groups.

The election-year bill has evolved from a dispute over helping students into a battle between the two parties over how to help families cope with the weak job market and ailing economy.

The White House and most Democrats opposed the $5.9 billion bill because of how Republicans covered the costs: eliminating a preventive health care fund in President Barack Obama’s health care law. They say the program mostly benefits women, while Republicans call it a loosely controlled slush fund.

Read more: http://www.bostonherald.com/news/us_politics/view/20120427gop_ignores_veto_threat_passes_student_loan_bill/

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Reply GOP ignores veto threat, passes student loan bill (Original post)
appleannie1 Apr 2012 OP
gateley Apr 2012 #1
appleannie1 Apr 2012 #2
gateley Apr 2012 #3
Garion_55 Apr 2012 #5
JDPriestly Apr 2012 #11
jtuck004 Apr 2012 #12
The Wielding Truth Apr 2012 #4
JDPriestly Apr 2012 #10
gateley Apr 2012 #17
Bandit Apr 2012 #16
Iliyah Apr 2012 #6
LiberalLovinLug Apr 2012 #7
WCGreen Apr 2012 #8
Tx4obama Apr 2012 #9
sofa king Apr 2012 #14
PuppyBismark Apr 2012 #13
sofa king Apr 2012 #15
and-justice-for-all Apr 2012 #18

Response to appleannie1 (Original post)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 01:28 PM

1. I think they're playing this well. All people will hear is that the President vetoed a bill to keep

interest rates on student loans from doubling.

They won't hear the explanations of WHY this is a bad way to do it.

Well played, Republicans. They know the value of sound bites.



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Response to gateley (Reply #1)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 01:30 PM

2. That is exactly what I am afraid of. There is this though

Even if the House bill passes as expected, it seems certain to go nowhere in the Democrat-controlled Senate. Senate Democrats have a bill of their own extending the lower interest rate and paid for by boosting payroll taxes paid by high-earning owners of some private firms. Republicans oppose it.

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Response to appleannie1 (Reply #2)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 01:43 PM

3. Ultimately that's good, but in the interim, the "Senate votes against student loan bill" will

be the headline.

Sigh. I always expect the worst. They're so much better at this than we are. I've said a zillion times, we need a Democratic Frank Luntz!

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Response to gateley (Reply #3)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 01:47 PM

5. assuming reid

brings it up for a vote

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Response to Garion_55 (Reply #5)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 04:13 PM

11. We have a Democratic Frank Luntz, but no one listens to him. George Lakoff.

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Response to JDPriestly (Reply #11)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 04:38 PM

12. Progressives would have more success if they acted on his work. n/t

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Response to appleannie1 (Reply #2)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 01:43 PM

4. Thank goodness that we have people who won't hurt women for politics.

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Response to gateley (Reply #1)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 04:11 PM

10. The bill will face alterations in the Senate.

Let's see what happens.

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Response to JDPriestly (Reply #10)

Sun Apr 29, 2012, 12:18 PM

17. Good point, I tend to agree. Except THEN they'll be saying the DEMOCRAT Senate

wouldn't approve a bill on college loans!

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Response to gateley (Reply #1)

Sun Apr 29, 2012, 09:53 AM

16. It will never pass the Senate so a veto is no real concern

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Response to appleannie1 (Original post)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 02:02 PM

6. Why do the insane party of no

hate America?

I disagree, this plays perfectly into Pres. O's hands for relection. He will of course let America know what the goppers did which will piss off most of Americans.

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Response to appleannie1 (Original post)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 03:34 PM

7. So can the President override certain portions of the bill with Executive Order?

Dubya did it for almost every damn bill that came through his desk.

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Response to LiberalLovinLug (Reply #7)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 03:52 PM

8. the president does not have a line Item Veto....

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Response to appleannie1 (Original post)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 04:03 PM

9. The Senate left on a week break today, so the senate won't have a new vote anytime soon n/t

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Response to Tx4obama (Reply #9)

Sat Apr 28, 2012, 07:43 AM

14. Unless they want to kill it, it will go to Committee Hell.

Not one Republican-authored bill of substance has passed in Congress since the Republicans began their obstruction plan in earnest in late 2010.

This bill will die in the same way a thousand others have and will: it will be sent to a Democratically-controlled Committee in the Senate and the Chair of that Committee will ensure that the bill remains "under consideration" until this Congress ends in January, 2013.

If we wish to be exceptionally cruel to the Republicans, Democratic Senators can re-write the bill in Committee to include something they don't like, such as increased assistance to impoverished and minority students--pretty much anything kind or helpful--and then force Republican Senators to filibuster it or vote against it.

Republicans in the House and Republicans in the Senate are now working at cross-purposes. House Republicans need to churn out as much hateful garbage as they can, to placate their frothing backers in individual districts. Senate Republicans need to turn away from hateful garbage, lest they be swept under by the Obama reelection wave. But it is Democratic Senators who get to decide whether or not Republican Senators vote on a particular bill.

Now we have saved up an eighteen-month backlog of terribly written, hate-filled legislation courtesy of teabaggers in the House, and we can force Republican Senators to vote on a never-ending parade of those shitty bills without fear that any of them will become law (even if one sneaks by in a Senate vote, the President will simply veto it).

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Response to appleannie1 (Original post)

Fri Apr 27, 2012, 10:02 PM

13. No need for the GOP to worry, this president hardly ever keeps his veto threats

I just don't expect the President to veto much of anything. One of his few failings, he has no appetite to challenge the opposition.

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Response to PuppyBismark (Reply #13)

Sat Apr 28, 2012, 07:50 AM

15. He hasn't had to veto anything.

Bad legislation had to get past Harry Reid in the Senate, first. Not a single Republican bill has exited the Senate this Congress, and the President and the Senate leadership generally agree on the legislation they can pass.

So the President has had no bills to veto since 2010. The threats, however, worked wonders, because anything he threatened to veto rarely even made it to a Senate floor vote.

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Response to appleannie1 (Original post)

Sun Apr 29, 2012, 12:22 PM

18. So the pigs attached some bullshit to the bill

altered it, and that is what the bill would be vetoed. I assume they attached some cuts to social services??

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