Hillary Clinton crushes Republican rivals in new poll

[cosmicone]

Source: Marketwatch

If the presidential election were held today, it wouldn’t even be close.

Hillary Clinton is crushing her potential Republican rivals by double digits in a new CNN/ORC International poll. The Republicans’ best showing is by Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, who trails the former senator and secretary of state by 14 points. Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, who hasn’t declared his candidacy yet, lags Clinton by 17 points. Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky and New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie are each 19 points behind Clinton.

Rubio and Paul have declared their candidacies, but Christie hasn’t said he’ll run.

Clinton is also the overwhelming favorite for the Democratic nomination, with nearly seven in 10 Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents supporting her.

Read more: http://www.marketwatch.com/story/hillary-clinton-crushes-republican-rivals-in-new-poll-2015-04-20?siteid=yhoof2

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Go Hillary !!!!

[orpupilofnature57]

1. Are they the same polls that crushed Shrub ? President Gore ?

[liberal N proud]

5. Still not sure that election wasn't stolen.

[maddiemom]

35. Not sure that election wasn't stolen when Gore ended up with half a million more votes?

[liberal N proud]

49. Missed the sarcasm

[maddiemom]

56. Yeah, I did. Good one, in that case.

[Cal33]

76. What difference does it make, if Democrats refuse to do something more drastic

about this wholesale GOP cheating at all elections over the entire country? This
passive, taking-it-lying-down attitude enables the GOP to continue their criminal
ways even more -- and they're laughing at us in our faces to boot.

Democrats play their role in helping the GOP to have become such successful
criminal cheaters!

[yurbud]

78. Democrats act like the Washington Generals to the GOP's Globetrotters

which is pretty tough when the "Globetrotters" are a bunch of pasty old white guys.

[NewJeffCT]

7. I don't remember Gore having huge leads over potential rivals

in 2000?

[maddiemom]

57. There was only Bill Bradley who withdrew a couple of months before the primary.

I really don't think you can count Lyndon La Rouche.

[NewJeffCT]

63. over Republican rivals, though?

Bush, McCain and whatever crazies were in early?

[maddiemom]

68. I was thinking of the DEMOCRATIC primary.

[JoePhilly]

23. Gore was up 19% over all GOP opponents?? When was that?

[4lbs]

24. I don't recall any of that. A CNN poll conducted Dec 1999, almost a year before the 2000 election

had Gore losing to Dubya, and about even with McCain.

http://www.cnn.com/1999/ALLPOLITICS/stories/12/22/poll.cnn/


Poll: Gore still trails Bush

By Keating Holland/CNN



December 22, 1999
Web posted at: 5:13 p.m. EST (2213 GMT)


WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Vice President Al Gore continues to lose a hypothetical head-to-head presidential match-up against Republican front-runner George W. Bush, but he is now tied with Arizona Sen. John McCain in a two-way race, according to a CNN/USA TODAY/Gallup poll released Wednesday.

Gore's rival for the Democratic nomination, former New Jersey Sen. Bill Bradley, does even better, beating McCain in a hypothetical match-up and Bradley is closer to Bush than the vice president, although Bush beats both Democrats.

[LanternWaste]

39. Voters crush. Polls merely reflect. Please read more non-fiction.

Voters crush. Polls merely reflect. Please read more non-fiction.

[orpupilofnature57]

53. Voters crushed us in 1981, I just read ' Secrets of the tomb '

that would be good for you, all that esoteric, secret decoder ring shit .

[Surya Gayatri]

2. Watch out! Incoming shrapnel from shattering craniums...LOL!

[leftofcool]

3. But, but, she has so much baggage.............

she can't win, she is a loser..............(sarcasm)

[liberal N proud]

4. And we still have so much opposition on the left?

Why would you not go with a winning candidate? Going with another candidate could be a toss up.

[Strat54]

8. Look!! It's not so much an "Opposition on the Left"...

It's not so much an "Opposition on the Left" as it is a screaching wail from the Hillary supporters any time the possibility of another candidate is mentioned.

Good Gawd people!!

You DLCers are getting as bad as the Religious Right.

"Ohhh... Somebody said they prefer Warren to Clinton.

Don't be a dumb ass Hippie! You're either for Hillary or you want Jeb to win."

THAT is what I hear from the Hillary Promoters on DU.

I guarantee you...
If Sec. Clinton is the Candidate, I will work my butt off for her. AND WE WILL WIN!

But, Screw anybody who tries to tell the rest of us that we are fools for not just falling in line with the Clinton campaign. It's a LONGGĢGG season. Having primary opponents will actually help Sec. Clinton in the long run.

"So much opposition from the left...."

Pahlease!!!! You ain't ever even seen no "Left" unless you were alive during LBJ.

[TDale313]

26. Well put.

[maddiemom]

60. No, it's a huge exaggeration.

The press (Washington Post, etc.) is already sticking the knife in Hillary. Since I'm locally active in Democratic politics, I've been completely amazed by how many average folks in my area really like Hillary. This goes back to her primary runs against then Sen. Obama, who was then very much supported, when he became the candidate, by the same people. I'm not a huge Hillary fan, but will certainly support her over what the Republicans have to offer---scary prospects these days. Like her or not, no doubt that she is exceptionally qualified.

[rock]

42. ll of those are well-known screed

made up by the anti-Hillary crew. You did not list my favorite: Hillary's-electability. None of these points were made by Pro-Hillary fans but were instead created as straw men by those that do not like Hillary.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

13. Yeah, who cares if hardly anyone's announced yet - let's vote today! For Hillary!!

[workinclasszero]

28. Going with some other democrat wouldn't be a toss up at this point

It would be a capitulation to theocracy and a hard right SCOTUS for a generation.

[Gore1FL]

46. I heard a similar argument in 2008. n/t

[workinclasszero]

47. Well if a President Cruz/Walker, a republican controlled Congress

And a SCOTUS packed with hardcore right wing theocrats for a generation and the koch bros calling the shots doesn't scare you, I don't know what would.

Wait till the debates start up and the clown car idiots start laying out their nightmare plans for taking back america to the Dark Ages.

[Gore1FL]

50. I heard the same thing about president McCain Gulianni et al in 2008.

If Hillary is so awesome electorally, why does a nomination phase concern you?

[Strat54]

80. And there it is...the "Hillary is the only electable one" mantra, just like 2008

And there it is...the "Hillary is the only electable one" mantra, just like 2008.

workinclasszero responds with, "Well, if you don't support Hillary now, then you are giving the election to Cruz or Walker." Quite a logical leap there Zero.

Man, for a bunch of Democrats, the "Hillary is inevitable" crew sure sound like the Republicans of 2012.

THERE IS NOTHING DISQUALIFYING OF SEC. CLINTON!!
She will definitely make a better candidate and president than anything the GOP has to offer, if she wins the nomination. The "Hillary is inevitable" crowd just want to skip all of that actual voting in the primary stuff and jump right into the general election. Apparently, they are a bit confused as to how this actually works.

One could even suggest that it shows a certain lack of humility, in that they want to jump to the head of the line without the input of the rest of the party, ostensibly, because they know better than us.

LOOK!!!
Hillary is NOT the only Democrat that can beat the Republicans. If we played our cards right (unlikely to happen) just about ANY Democrat could beat the Clown Car. Let us kick the tires on a few candidates before just handing the title to Sec. Clinton. STOP with this "Don't Squeeze the Charmin" routine.

And...
I don't think Elizabeth Warren would accept a draft nomination nor does she want to run. But, she is already an important leader in the party. She's more suited to Sen. Majority Leader although Schuemer (sp) is probably the establishment pick.

But you folks with your "Warrenista" laugh line sure sound a lot like a certain dickless (Vagina-less. Equal Opportunity), blowhard, radio commentator by the name of Rush. With the same dickishly dismissive attitude.

If Sec. Clinton is going to be the candidate, she is going to be the candidate. I think you are far too afraid of the democratic process as it plays out in the Democratic Party. Yes. We actually discuss and debate things. NONE of the 2008 Democratic debates were an embarrassment the way that MOST of the Republican debates were. And worse, the Republicans got to do solo donuts in the Clown Car in 2012.

We are Democrats! Believe it or not, We CAN handle this!!! We do it all the time!!!

Stop demanding the air be sucked out of any room that doesn't capitulate to Hillary and you won't reinforce our perception that Hillary supporters act a bit entitled. Because if her supporters resemble the candidate, then I don't know if she is "Likeable Enough".


There. I said it. Feel free to pile on.

[maddiemom]

59. As has been pointed out, Hillary is probably the most vetted candidate ever.

No surprises with her, as she's been hit for every negative thing that could possibly come out. I'm not a huge Hillary fan, but if she's indeed the candidate, I'll certainly support her over any of the Republican crazies out there. No doubt that she's one of the most experienced candidates ever to run.

[Jester Messiah]

6. Just goes to show...

our worst beats their best. Doesn't mean we HAVE to lead with our worst, though.

[Cosmocat]

9. Bernie Sanders is at 5% to win the DEMOCRATIC nomination

You statement assumes people put some actual hard thought into their votes.

They don't.

We in fact DO "have" to lead with our "worst" as you call her because that is who people are picking, the name, the brand, the first women, whatever ...

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

14. You might want to wait to crown her for other candidates to announce.

[Cosmocat]

15. Except that wasn't my point

"I" ain't "crowning" anyone.

I am saying as a country we don't elect people based on high minded policy concerns.

This is why I noted Bernie Sanders.

He is pretty much spot on policy wise.

But he is a frumpy old guy who while super tactful, but does not spin the political tripe that people eat up.

You want to ball about "crowning" Hill get a megaphone and spend the rest of your life traveling this country screaming at everyone you see.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

18. Then, your snark aside, I apologize.

[Cosmocat]

20. Your jumping me aside, I accept

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

21. I wholly misunderstood you - sorry again.

[libdem4life]

27. I'm undecided, but I dislike the pejoratives such as "crown" we're not a monarchy and "entitled",

and "her turn" ... she's never said those things. And you people who sling this stuff around make her look better and better, because it's so insipid and childish.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

33. I was using the word sarcastically. n/t

[libdem4life]

34. Oh, Sorry about that. Many on here are using these words to villify her.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

38. I won't vilify her since she may very well get the nom.

But I do have a more liberal/progressive agenda than what I think she wants to see. More aligned with Sen. Sanders.

[libdem4life]

40. Me, too. But I like O'Malley, too, from a speech I heard. So, there's going to be a Primary.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

41. I'm still waiting to hear more from him.

I mean, what would be the point of a presidential debate with only one person on the dais?

[libdem4life]

43. That's just it...would be a publicly paid political ad...wouldn't even happen. Debbie Wasserman-

Schultz (?) the DNC Chairman, said there will be a primary and there will be candidates. This is so "otherworldly"...begging people to run for President.

[Adrahil]

74. Im all for a good primary field....

... And then we'll go from there. But as of right now, HRC is looking like a winner.

[7962]

66. And thats exactly what it is nt

[Strat54]

11. Yes. Our conservatives are less bat guano than theirs.

[Adrahil]

72. Your logic is.... Ahem.... Interesting. n/t

[Enthusiast]

10. What is her position on the TPP, the TTIP?

Social Security and Medicare? Military spending? Foreign entanglements? Public education?

[Javaman]

16. sush you!

stop bringing reality to the conversation! what did I tell you about that?

[Dr Hobbitstein]

17. Let's see...

Medicare:
http://www.ontheissues.org/celeb/Hillary_Clinton_Health_Care.htm

Social Security:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/04/20/hillary_clinton_social_security_not_a_luxury_we_do_not_mess_with_it.html

Education:
http://www.ontheissues.org/celeb/Hillary_Clinton_Education.htm

Actually, you can pretty much get every answer here:
http://www.ontheissues.org/hillary_clinton.htm

[Enthusiast]

19. Hillary's positions are a mixed bag.

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She supports charter schools. That is huge negative for me.

She is in favor of the TPP. Terrible!

Her positions on Medicare are too long ago to be relevant.

She is going to have to clarify her positions—bring them up to date.

In any case I won't support anyone that is in favor of the TPP. Candidates that support the TPP fail to recognize the damage that deregulated corporations have done to working people.

[brooklynite]

44. Many Democrats support Charter Schools...

Many Democratic Mayors support them to.

If you're going to push this an issue, let me suggest you look for some substantive arguments. Too many people here yell "privatizing" and call it a day.

[Enthusiast]

45. I've read the substantive arguments. They do not match the reality.

[marym625]

73. Charter schools are a failure

The fallacy of the Charter School success is just more rhetoric designed to privatize education.

Here's a few articles

Charter Schools Fail: New Reports Call Their ‘Magic’ Into Question
http://educationopportunitynetwork.org/charter-schools-fail-new-reports-call-their-magic-into-question/

Time for a moratorium on charter schools
http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2015/4/time-for-a-moratorium-on-charter-schools.html


Nearly half of Indiana's charter schools doing poorly or failing
http://www.wthr.com/story/27320868/2014/11/06/nearly-half-of-indianas-charter-schools-doing-poorly-or-failing

That's just a few articles and studies. There many more I will happily post for you if you're interested

[PosterChild]

70. Charter schools are a "compromise"...

.... to atenuate voucher programs. since they are actually legally public schools they can't teach religion, and can be regulated. They provide a sop to "scool choice" advocates without a full sell out of public schools and secular education.

[Enthusiast]

71. And that doesn't make me like them any more.

[Novara]

12. Gee, the election is only 18 months away!

[BrainDrain]

22. No Big deal....

Bugs Bunny would be crushing repugs too.......

[workinclasszero]

25. Go Hillary!

Heads exploding on the right...and left!

[Jester Messiah]

75. Yes, go Hillary. And take Goldman Sachs and the rest of your bazillionaire owners with you. [nt]

[Beauregard]

79. :) [nt]

[yellowcanine]

29. These men do not approve these poll results.

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[workinclasszero]

32. Sad little teahaddists

[TrollBuster9090]

58. I believe Dr. Krauthammer is already constructing a GOP bunker, at the bottom of some of our deeper

mine shafts, to preserve a nucleus of GOP credibility. (With a ratio of 10 females to every male, of course.)

[William769]

30. Hell yes!

[hrmjustin]

31. Congrats Hillary! Great numbers.

[Corey_Baker08]

36. America Is 'Ready For Hillary'

[samsingh]

37. encouraging, but still too early. But it's always good to start at a position of strength

[Cosmic Dancer]

48. I'd rather have Elizabeth or Bernie but...

we need to be sure we secure the oval office so we can change the balance on the SCOTUS. This next cycle is a fight we must win so let's work together to make sure we have an electable candidate. Hillary seem to be our best chance.

[Larry Engels]

77. This is the spirit of centrism.

It's what prevents real political progress.

[shenmue]

55. Yeah!!

[tavernier]

61. Rubio??

Wow. That's really scary.

[NorthCarolina]

62. "Clinton is also the overwhelming favorite for the Democratic nomination".

Pretty low bar when you're the only one in the running.

[fbc]

64. Let's see how she weathers whatever new scandal the republicans make up.

[blkmusclmachine]

65. Meh.

[tblue37]

67. I will support the Dem nominee, but at this point we cannot know it will be Hillary, nor

can we know how well she will actually perform. At this point in the 2004 election cycle, name recognition had Lieberman leading the Democrats! Most Amercans pay little attention at this point, so name recognition is a major factor in such polls.

The real issue is to prevent the Republicans from defining her--or any other potential Dem nominee--first. One big advantage with Hillary is that the Republicans have been so ridiculous for so long in their attacks on her that a lot of their claims get ignored. Another is that most people remember Bill's terms as better times.

My main concerns with Hillary are her unforced errors and her tendency to rely on bad advice from lousy advisors.

For example, if her team--or Dems generally--did a halfway decent job *showing* the very real differences between their record and that of the Republicans, and of keeping thins simple and repetitious so the low information voters would *get* it, then they would do much better. I am certain that unless a Dem wins by an overwheming margin, the Republicans will manipulate the votes sufficiently to steal almost any election, at almost any level. The Dems need to do something real about hackable voting machines, the purging of voter roles, suppressive ID laws, and other forms of voter suppression, as well as upping registration drives and GOTV efforts.

Heck, even pointing out how much time and money has been wasted on multiple Benghazi investigations and attempts to take away the insurance so many have finally gotten through the ACA, while the Republicans continue to block every effort to actually do anything for the people they claim to represent, would help move voters our way. But Dems never seem to tell voters any of these things in a way that they can understand and remember.

[Larry Engels]

69. You can't see the woods for the trees.

Hillary works for Wall Street, just like Obama and Bush. Her politics as President will be more of the same.

I can't get excited about it.