Hillary Clinton Rocks The Kochs By Announcing Support For Overturning Citizens United

[ghostsinthemachine]

Source: Politicsusa.com

At a campaign event in Iowa today, Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton came out in support of a constitutional amendment to overturn Citizens United.

During a roundtable with students in Iowa, Clinton said:

I want to be the champion who goes to bat for Americans in four big areas, four big fights that I think we have to take on because there are those who don’t agree with what I think we should be doing, and they’re pretty powerful forces.

We need build the economy of tomorrow, not yesterday. We need to strengthen families and communities because that’s where it all starts. We need to fix our dysfunctional political system, and get unaccountable money out of it once and for all, even if it takes a constitutional amendment, and we need to protect our country from the threats that we see and the ones that are on the horizon.

Read more: http://www.politicususa.com/2015/04/14/hillary-clinton-rocks-kochs-announcing-support-overturning-citizens-united.html

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This is good. Very good.

[WilliamPitt]

1. "Rocks the Kochs"?

So I assume that means she'll be eschewing the loosened campaign fundraising laws unleashed by Citizens United and raising her estimated billion-dollar war chest the good ol' fashioned way?

No?

Words are wind.

"Rocks the Kochs" my chapped arse.

I hate election season.

[OKNancy]

4. no because that would be stupid

and she isn't stupid.
Until there is a level playing field between Republicans and Democrats no one is going to be that dumb.

[WilliamPitt]

8. She definitely knows where to find the cash.

[OKNancy]

9. saw that in someone elses post

apples and oranges.
Most from individuals who work at those places, not their PACs
Looks like Bernie got his from PACs.

Either way... doesn't bother me.

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

26. Thanks for saying the obvious...someone who knows politics and is being fair would not make

the comment you responded to anyway.

[duhneece]

28. Agreed...and it would not be doing any of us a favor at this point.

But I am glad at her friendly move toward the left wing of the Dem party

[peacebird]

29. She is parroting Warren now, but should she get the nom she will change back to her true stripes

I do not trust her.

[duhneece]

34. Parroting Warren is good news indeed

Parrot Warren over & over & more!

[peacebird]

36. Yes, but is HRC playing us for fools? Pretending to be the populist while hiding her true stripes?

That's what I believe.

[Doctor_J]

14. yeah, I don't see David Koch losing a lot of sleep over this

But the hyperbole will be thick here with every new HRC utterance. Remember how many times Obama's "kicked republican ass" over the last six years?

[MisterP]

20. don't forget "they're SHAKIN' in their BOOTS" and "we're GONNA WIN THIS ONE"

they keep pretending the last candidate didn't run left and rule right, or that "if only we had the Congress" works if you don't

[Enrique]

18. it's PoliticusUSA

where every utterance by a Democrat is either eviscerating or obliterating something or other.

[joshcryer]

27. Jesus. How the fuck would that work?

Spend money on ads against super PACs that support her?

This is beyond the silliest thing I have ever read here.

Citizens United has shit all to do with corporate PACs, which by law have contribution limits. Super PACs are allowed to have UNLIMITED contributions.

There is a significant difference between an employ of JP Morgan donating to their PAC (up to the 2700 limit) and the Koch's dropping millions in a super PAC.

[fredamae]

2. Great Start

Add:
Justice Reform
Reforming the Police State
Social Security Expansion

[ghostsinthemachine]

7. and a few others

Cannabis legalization
tax breaks for alternative power and vehicles instead of oil subsidies
Chasing off shore tax cheats

[fredamae]

10. Yep. And It IS up

to "us" to help her form her positions that she Will stand up for After the election should she be the successful candidate.......

[peacebird]

32. She is against raising the cap on Social Security tax. If you earn over $115k a year you stop paying

into Social Security at about $115,000. Everything else is tax free. She is against raising that cap, calling it a tax on the middle class.

How many middle class families have a breadwinner bringing home over $115k a year? Raise the cap to $500k and we could ensure solvency of SS for decades more.

[fredamae]

37. Let's Convince her

by Popular Demand, then. People-even politicians can change their minds

[PearliePoo2]

3. Rocks The Kochs...

LOVE IT...

K&R

[calimary]

12. I'd rather it be "CHOKES the kochs."

And it rhymes!

[bunnies]

5. I guess we're just assuming thats what she means?

I dont see a single quote re: citizens united.

[Doctor_J]

15. well, there's that

But let's not rain facts on the first victory lap of the campaign

[bunnies]

17. Right... Right.

Id hate to wreck the celebration of something she didnt say. Hold on... let me find my pompoms and blinders.

[cstanleytech]

6. To be honest I dont care.

Dont get me wrong, I believe citizens united was a complete BS ruling and I would support such an amendment that overturned it but I just tend to give a raised eyebrow of skepticism over any candidate who claims they supposedly support such an amendment over anything given that amendments to the constitution are rarely passed.

[Maedhros]

11. Why would Citigroup, Goldman Sachs, DLA Piper, JPMorgan Chase and Morgan Stanley

give a combined $3,285,831.00 to Hillary's campaign if they thought she had any intention of preventing them from buying future elections?

[calimary]

13. Maybe they think they can still get to her. But if she's hearing from the voters

what I suspect she's hearing, maybe this is one fight they can't win. They'd be smart to keep donating to her, though, because if they hedge their bets, they're at least going to want somebody on her team to pick up the phone if she get into the Oval Office. Not that she'd have their ear as much as she has in the past, perhaps.

That's what I'm hoping, anyway.

[Doctor_J]

16. I am hoping she will not run a campaign of lies like Obama did

Corporatism, gay marriage, and reproductive rights. Stick to the truth, the backlash won't be as severe.

[Doctor_J]

39. they wouldn't of course

But the Kool-Aid addicts prefer to believe campaign rhetoric over facts and statistics. Some of them still think Obama is going to insist on a public option and renegotiate NAFTA. Then in 2017 when it turns out that wall street is not part of any "reform", the PUMAs will tell us, "that was only campaign rhetoric, and the Repukes wouldn't let her anyway. You shoulda voted for JEB if you don't like it". Ahh, the deja vu

[phleshdef]

19. Its times like this, I'm glad Koch is pronounced with the long vowel sound instead of the short.

[DonCoquixote]

21. You know

If this is not a ruse, then even I can have some hope.

If Wall Street can have turn this country against itself as they have, then they can enjoy a nice civil war of their own, and while Hillary is far from my first choice, I will glady and gleefully send her gasoline to power whatever war machinery she needs, and so that I can pour some onto the flames of the Koch's funeral pyres (I doubt she will mind).

[LiberalArkie]

22. Is this like "I will close Guantanamo" or "I will get the Patriot Act repealed" ?

[laserhaas]

23. Koch's already committed an estimated $895 million this POTUS race

and - with Romney's Clear Channel (now iHeart) - along with Fox - etc., it's an uphill battle for whomever the candidate is.

While I'm all in for Clinton II versus ANY rethug -

the WS mega dollars donations doesn't sit well with me.

[BumRushDaShow]

24. The irony here about "Citizen's United"

that I have noticed got lost in the discussions about the whole debacle, was that the "ad" that generated this landmark decision, was for promotion of the broadcast of a 90 minute hit piece about guess who?

Hillary Clinton.

[joshcryer]

31. The vast right wing conspiracy is real.

People here don't like to admit it because it supports Clinton's claims against the right wing, and they can't believe Clinton is against the right. It's a self delusion.

[YOHABLO]

25. Look, she can, and will make many promising statesments, but without a majority in House and Senate

We don't have much of a chance at getting things done. She also has to deal with the corporate sponsored Supreme Court majority. Clinton will be the next President of the U.S. We shouldn't make it a cake walk for her. We have a long way to go.

[applegrove]

30. Out of the ballpark.

[PoliticAverse]

33. "even if it takes a constitutional amendment" - so does she actually support

a constitutional amendment now and if so which version?

[Jester Messiah]

35. If she'd been that champion before now, I might believe her.

You don't have to be president to go to bat for the middle class. You don't have to be president to stand up for the little guy. Having those things on your resume, however, would be a great help in someone's quest to *become* president.

[riversedge]

40. She said it last year also according to

the link in the OP....


Clinton’s answer represents a strengthening of her position against Citizens United. Last year, she answered a question on Citizens United by saying, “I would consider supporting an amendment among these lines that would prevent the abuse of our political system by excessive amounts of money if there is no other way to deal with the Citizen’s United decision.”

[PoliticAverse]

41. Isn't this the same thing differently worded?

“I would consider supporting an amendment among these lines that would prevent the abuse of our political system by excessive amounts of money if there is no other way to deal with the Citizen’s United decision.”

vs....

"We need to fix our dysfunctional political system, and get unaccountable money out of it once and for all, even if it takes a constitutional amendment"

[samsingh]

38. this is very good.