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Tue Apr 24, 2012, 11:58 AM

Dangerous booby traps found on popular Utah trail

Source: AP

SALT LAKE CITY (AP) -- The 20-pound spiked boulder was rigged to swing at head-level with just a trip of a thin wire - a military-like booby trap set on a popular Utah canyon trail.

Any unsuspecting hiker exploring the makeshift dead-wood shelter could have fallen prey.

Two men arrested over the weekend on suspicion of misdemeanor reckless endangerment told authorities the traps were intended for wildlife, but investigators don't believe the story.

Read more: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_BOOBY_TRAPS_HIKING_TRAIL?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

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Reply Dangerous booby traps found on popular Utah trail (Original post)
Viva_La_Revolution Apr 2012 OP
Drale Apr 2012 #1
freshwest Apr 2012 #2
bluedigger Apr 2012 #3
freshwest Apr 2012 #4
HotRodTuna Apr 2012 #5
zeemike Apr 2012 #7
Dogtown Apr 2012 #10
obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #15
HotRodTuna Apr 2012 #18
NoGOPZone Apr 2012 #23
HotRodTuna Apr 2012 #28
NoGOPZone Apr 2012 #33
xocet Apr 2012 #11
bigmonkey Apr 2012 #12
HotRodTuna Apr 2012 #19
obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #22
HotRodTuna Apr 2012 #27
Octafish Apr 2012 #13
obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #14
HotRodTuna Apr 2012 #20
obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #24
HotRodTuna Apr 2012 #31
Earth_First Apr 2012 #16
HotRodTuna Apr 2012 #21
obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #26
HotRodTuna Apr 2012 #29
obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #25
L. Coyote Apr 2012 #30
rhett o rick Jul 2012 #34
Javaman Apr 2012 #6
Hangingon Apr 2012 #8
atheous Apr 2012 #9
Omaha Steve Apr 2012 #17
L. Coyote Apr 2012 #32

Response to Viva_La_Revolution (Original post)

Tue Apr 24, 2012, 12:01 PM

1. Misdemeanor reckless endangerment?

How about attempted murder, maybe some charges of terrorism? This was an obvious premeditated attempt to maim or kill a human.

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Response to Drale (Reply #1)

Tue Apr 24, 2012, 12:03 PM

2. +1

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Response to Viva_La_Revolution (Original post)

Tue Apr 24, 2012, 12:03 PM

3. I'm glad they caught these assholes.

I hike in Utah!

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Response to Viva_La_Revolution (Original post)

Tue Apr 24, 2012, 12:13 PM

4. Utah wants to confiscate national park land. This would discourage people from using it as intended.

I don't believe this was set up for poaching. This may be 'lone gunman' territory and then again it may not. In other states privatization vultures have defunded the maintenance and security at parks so that it's not safe to visit them. This park doesn't look safe now.

Eventually they close them and they are sold off to the same entities, corporations, so-called non-profits, etc. and used as the 1% wants. Golf courses, country clubs, expensive homes. They often make a case for saving the environment or reducing state deficits or public safety. A good deal of parkland in many states have been surrendered to private interests and the public is then locked out. Theft of the commons.

The people that set these traps were breaking the game laws if they were poaching; they may have been hunting human prey; or they might be just that callous and stupid to think they will be allowed to indulge themselves in either sport on public land. We don't know and they're being let off easy.

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Response to Viva_La_Revolution (Original post)

Tue Apr 24, 2012, 12:15 PM

5. Hate to say it but these kinds of traps are typically set by environmentalists

 

trying to punish mountain bikers. Stringing wires head high etc. My friends uncle had his throat slashed by a broken chainsaw blade when he cut into a spiked tree. Yeah, it happens.

The other main culprit would of course be drug dealers/growers but in the time I spent in Utah, that wasn't really an issue. Not the greatest place to grow weed.

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Response to HotRodTuna (Reply #5)

Tue Apr 24, 2012, 12:43 PM

7. Yep blame the environmentalist...they are the real terrorist.

Heard that so many times now it must be true.
Right wingers never resort to terrorism now do they...well except for abortion doctors, gays and the government...and we all know they deserve it right?

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Response to HotRodTuna (Reply #5)

Tue Apr 24, 2012, 01:36 PM

10. Your agenda

is showing...

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Response to Dogtown (Reply #10)

Tue Apr 24, 2012, 08:51 PM

15. +1

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Response to Dogtown (Reply #10)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 11:02 AM

18. My agenda is for people not to get killed

 

These people identify as "environmentalists" but really aren't, more like "territorialists".

There was at least one case I can think of in California a few years ago where a guy was setting booby traps for mt bikers. But if you think that's all a fantasy, I guess you've got your own agenda.

Mt Bikers are well aware of this. I guess it's all part of their "agenda" of not getting their heads lopped off.

http://www.vitalmtb.com/forums/The-Hub,2/Trail-Booby-Traps-in-Utah,6464
http://forums.singletracks.com/viewtopic.php?t=7441&p=43133
http://www.safetrails.net/boobytrappedtrails.asp

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Response to HotRodTuna (Reply #18)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 11:17 AM

23. Yet you referred to them as environmentalists

in you first post

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Response to NoGOPZone (Reply #23)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 11:25 AM

28. First words that came to mind as that's typicall what they try and wrap themselves in

 

to defend their forced possesion of public lands for their own use at the exlusion of everyone else.

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Response to HotRodTuna (Reply #28)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 12:49 PM

33. The first words that come to my mind

when reading about people attempting to harm others for political reason was the word you used later, terrorist.

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Response to HotRodTuna (Reply #5)

Tue Apr 24, 2012, 01:42 PM

11. Here, I'll post some more fiction in support of your point...

...

“The fact is,” Elliot told his wife, “I hate people who start the day cross-country skiing.”

She shook her head in denial and leaned her forehead on her palm and cried.

He looked into the kitchen window and saw his own distorted image. “The fact is I think I’ll start tomorrow morning by stringing head-high razor wire across Anderson’s trail.”

The Andersons were the Elliots’ nearest neighbors. Loyall Anderson was a full professor of government at the state university, thirty miles away. Anderson and his wife were blond and both of them were over six feet tall. They had two blond children, who qualified for the gifted class in the local school but attended regular classes in token of the Andersons’ opposition to elitism.

...

http://peter-mclachlin.livejournal.com/176264.html



Those damn mountain bikers!
Those damn wires!
Those damn spiked trees!
Those damn environmentalists!

Those damn anecdotes!


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Response to HotRodTuna (Reply #5)

Tue Apr 24, 2012, 02:45 PM

12. I wonder how many "my friend's uncles" have had the same thing happen.

Not a lot of verifiability there. That's just the social distance for urban legends.

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Response to bigmonkey (Reply #12)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 11:05 AM

19. Well, I went to 3 years undergrad with him in the same geology program, I know his family

 

and the fact that his dad is the largest private landowner in Washington, plus his family is (was) in timber, as was my wife's father. But yeah, when he tells me his uncle was murdered by someone spiking a tree I should have just call him a liar spreading urban legends.

Feel free to quote your sources about how it didn't happen.

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Response to HotRodTuna (Reply #19)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 11:17 AM

22. How would a spike in a tree hurt a mountain biker?

I have never carried a chainsaw with me while biking.

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #22)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 11:23 AM

27. This was in regard to my comment about a lumberjack who, I was told by

 

a close friend (his nephew), was killed when his chainsaw blade hit a spike and it broke off and slashed his throat.

Apparently I need a signed affidavit that this is true. Working on it.

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Response to HotRodTuna (Reply #5)

Tue Apr 24, 2012, 08:46 PM

13. Hate to say it, but you sound like the Lord's Avenger. Do you remember Judi Bari?

She co-founded Earth First! For her trouble saving the environment so our kids might have a planet with breathable air and drinkable water, she and colleague got car bombed. Of course, the FBI blamed her for it.



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Response to HotRodTuna (Reply #5)

Tue Apr 24, 2012, 08:50 PM

14. Links to that?

Because, I find that very, very doubtful, and I've mountain biked, hiked, and trail ran on many trails all over the US, and I have never heard a story about an environmentalist trying to maim or kill outdoors sportsmen and women. Especially since we are usually some of their biggest backers.

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #14)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 11:09 AM

20. links.

 

Not saying it isn't extremely rare, but it's happened. If you haven't mountain biked much you can't appreciate how pissed of some people can get who think they "own" the trail and will do whatever they can to keep people off it.

James Hetfield from Metallica is an excellent example, but he actually owns the section of trail he shut down, and didn't try and hurt anyone. He's just a jerk.

http://forums.singletracks.com/viewtopic.php?t=7441&p=43133
http://www.safetrails.net/boobytrappedtrails.asp

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/metallica-singer-forces-county-to-build-expensive-hiking-trail-20110719

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Response to HotRodTuna (Reply #20)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 11:20 AM

24. I still don't see any links saying an evil enviromentalist did this

And, the only link you did give was for one incident in the UK.

If you own land, you don't have to allow people access to it.

I mountain bike, hike, and trail run a lot, and of course have friends who do so. I have never heard of evil environmentalists trying to kill us, especially since we all are environmentalists ourselves.

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #24)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 11:30 AM

31. I didn't say an "evil environmentalist" did this

 

I said typically, when someone is sabotaging trails, spiking trees etc, they call themselves environmentalists, while they're really anything but.

I guess you really have to spell things out around here.

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Response to HotRodTuna (Reply #5)

Tue Apr 24, 2012, 08:51 PM

16. I wonder how many of your "friends' uncle's acquaintances" have run into these strung wires...

while trespassing on private property while operating an ATV or snowmobile when it turns out to be barbed wire marking property lines?

I agree with the abover OP, "your agenda is showing..."

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Response to Earth_First (Reply #16)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 11:16 AM

21. I don't know anyone that's run into a wire, but there was a case in the UK

 

and I seem to recall one in Santa Cruz also.

As a Mountain Biker, this issue really pisses me off, so sorry to offend those out there that think sabatoging trails either a) doesn't happen or b) doesn't matter.

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Response to HotRodTuna (Reply #21)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 11:22 AM

26. You just said it doesn't happen

Or, at least happens so rarely you only have one link to a UK incident.

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #26)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 11:28 AM

29. Well, it happened in Utah

 

which is why we're discussing this. Not a wire, a Conan-esque iron maiden on a rope. Motive is unclear although from the looks of it, it's just some jackwads wanting to kill something Rambo style.

http://www.vitalmtb.com/forums/The-Hub,2/Trail-Booby-Traps-in-Utah,6464

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Response to Earth_First (Reply #16)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 11:21 AM

25. My thought, too

Some snowmobilers are a menace.

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Response to HotRodTuna (Reply #5)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 11:30 AM

30. Love to say it, but these types of traps are not typical of anything but STUPID!

And the source of your scientific polling regarding this bloviation is???

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Response to HotRodTuna (Reply #5)

Fri Jul 13, 2012, 12:28 AM

34. What the hell is a chainsaw blade? You need to come up with some kind of proof for this b.s. nm

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Response to Viva_La_Revolution (Original post)

Tue Apr 24, 2012, 12:41 PM

6. sounds like two survivalist morons. nt

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Response to Viva_La_Revolution (Original post)

Tue Apr 24, 2012, 12:47 PM

8. These guys don;t want you near their pot plot

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Response to Viva_La_Revolution (Original post)

Tue Apr 24, 2012, 12:51 PM

9. domestic terrorism

 

There's no other excuse. Charge them and put em away regardless of lame excuse..

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Response to Viva_La_Revolution (Original post)

Tue Apr 24, 2012, 09:01 PM

17. Geez

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Response to Viva_La_Revolution (Original post)

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 11:35 AM

32. When did the AP declare "one" to be plural?

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