Tue Apr 24, 2012, 02:18 AM
Tax Man (104 posts)
Veteran Survives 3 Tours Of Duty But He’s Gunned Down In Lancaster [CA]
Source: CBS News
LANCASTER (CBS) — A 30-year-old veteran who served three tours of duty in Iraq and Afghanistan was shot to death Saturday in Lancaster, sheriff’s officials said. Nathen Taylor’s family is grieving and in disbelief. The shooting in the 700 block of West Avenue H-7 occurred around 12:10 a.m., said Deputy Guillermina Saldana of the Sheriff’s Headquarters Bureau. Taylor, according to his brother Patrick, had just left a party because he didn’t like to be around a lot of drinking. Taylor called his brother to say he would be dropping by his house within a few minutes. Taylor was sitting alone in his car, cell phone in hand, when he was shot by an unknown assailant. Read more: http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2012/04/22/veteran-survives-3-tours-of-duty-at-war-but-hes-gunned-down-in-lancaster/ this is just one of those stories you read late at night...and you just wonder what the hell is going on in this country.
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26 replies, 3154 views
| Author | Time | Post | |
| Tax Man | Apr 2012 | OP | |
| Art_from_Ark | Apr 2012 | #1 | |
| DesertDiamond | Apr 2012 | #2 | |
| Art_from_Ark | Apr 2012 | #5 | |
| TheWraith | Apr 2012 | #20 | |
| Downwinder | Apr 2012 | #3 | |
| pinboy3niner | Apr 2012 | #4 | |
| marshall gaines | Apr 2012 | #6 | |
| sinkingfeeling | Apr 2012 | #7 | |
| LiberalArkie | Apr 2012 | #8 | |
| DCKit | Apr 2012 | #26 | |
| onehandle | Apr 2012 | #9 | |
| Snake Alchemist | Apr 2012 | #10 | |
| marshall gaines | Apr 2012 | #11 | |
| Snake Alchemist | Apr 2012 | #12 | |
| onehandle | Apr 2012 | #13 | |
| Snake Alchemist | Apr 2012 | #14 | |
| onehandle | Apr 2012 | #15 | |
| Snake Alchemist | Apr 2012 | #16 | |
| Doctor_J | Apr 2012 | #18 | |
| Snake Alchemist | Apr 2012 | #21 | |
| Doctor_J | Apr 2012 | #24 | |
| Snake Alchemist | Apr 2012 | #25 | |
| PavePusher | Apr 2012 | #19 | |
| Doctor_J | Apr 2012 | #17 | |
| Snake Alchemist | Apr 2012 | #22 | |
| riverbendviewgal | Apr 2012 | #23 |
Response to Tax Man (Original post)
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 03:01 AM
Art_from_Ark (16,897 posts)
1. Damn, that's awful
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I wonder if this had anything to do with the party?
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Response to Art_from_Ark (Reply #1)
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 04:34 AM
DesertDiamond (897 posts)
2. Maybe, but it's a pretty gangy neighborhood. I know, I live in Lancaster.
Response to DesertDiamond (Reply #2)
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 07:39 AM
Art_from_Ark (16,897 posts)
5. So you're saying it might have been just random violence?
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I was thinking that since the victim had left the party because of "excessive drinking", that meant that someone(s) might have been getting violent, and the victim might have gotten into some sort of scuffle with them.
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Response to Art_from_Ark (Reply #5)
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 03:02 PM
TheWraith (24,331 posts)
20. Random violence is rarely really random.
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Usually you end up finding out that it was targeted at someone, probably a rival gang member.
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Response to Tax Man (Original post)
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 07:06 AM
Downwinder (7,124 posts)
3. Patrick said it took a half hour for an ambulance to arrive.
Response to Downwinder (Reply #3)
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 07:26 AM
pinboy3niner (27,547 posts)
4. On the local news, one man who responded after the shots...
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...said that if he had known the ambulance would take that long, he would have put Taylor in his car and driven him to the hospital.
Google maps shows Antelope Valley Hospital 2.4 miles (a 7-minute drive) away... |
Response to Tax Man (Original post)
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 09:40 AM
marshall gaines (347 posts)
6. comment
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I did make a comment recently about this type of crime. was shot down by DU censors.so i'll just say some people need to get their s... together before being outraged with shootings like Martin in Florida. too many guns with easy access to them. 25 dollars to a crackhead, you got a weapon.
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Response to marshall gaines (Reply #6)
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 10:03 AM
sinkingfeeling (27,825 posts)
7. +1000
Response to marshall gaines (Reply #6)
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 11:42 AM
LiberalArkie (1,260 posts)
8. There are probably just as many Democrats as Republicans who judge their manliness by the size
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of their gun. Who knows maybe more Democrats.
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Response to LiberalArkie (Reply #8)
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 07:56 PM
DCKit (18,291 posts)
26. Guess you could say the same about our shared obsession with sex and sexuality. WTF?
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I have a feeling that men who are secure and comfortable with their own sexuality are far less likely to own (or obsess over) guns and to vote Democratic.
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Response to marshall gaines (Reply #6)
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 01:21 PM
onehandle (35,442 posts)
9. All guns start out legal.
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Guns should be tracked, licensed, and tied to a company or individual from the day they were made.
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Response to onehandle (Reply #9)
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 01:31 PM
Snake Alchemist (3,318 posts)
10. Uh, they are now. That's what serial #'s are for. nt
Response to Snake Alchemist (Reply #10)
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 01:36 PM
marshall gaines (347 posts)
11. yeah
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serial # can be filed off. they need some kind of sensor put in it, so to get to it, it would destroy weapon. It wouldn't do much good now, too many(millions??)on the street. it's hopeless.
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Response to marshall gaines (Reply #11)
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 01:38 PM
Snake Alchemist (3,318 posts)
12. Seems like stolen cars would be a more pressing issue.
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Unfortunately, like serial #'s any sensor can be deactivated.
What we need is a less violent culture in the US. |
Response to Snake Alchemist (Reply #10)
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 02:14 PM
onehandle (35,442 posts)
13. Every gun sale should be recorded. The seller and buyer.
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Last edited Tue Apr 24, 2012, 02:16 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) When a gun is used in an illegal act, the seller should be identified.
Straw purchasers and gun shops that deal in 'unusual' volume to single buyers should be identified and stopped. |
Response to onehandle (Reply #13)
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 02:22 PM
Snake Alchemist (3,318 posts)
14. And they are now. Not sure how you want to identify illegal sellers though.
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I'd like to track illegal sellers of all items.
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Response to Snake Alchemist (Reply #14)
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 02:24 PM
onehandle (35,442 posts)
15. Oh, ok. Problem solved.
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Gun crime is a figment of our imaginations.
Never mind. |
Response to onehandle (Reply #15)
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 02:27 PM
Snake Alchemist (3,318 posts)
16. Lowest level in 50 years and dropping.
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Don't watch too much 24 news.
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Response to Snake Alchemist (Reply #16)
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 02:51 PM
Doctor_J (26,373 posts)
18. When we get within striking distance of civilized countries, let me know
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Response to Doctor_J (Reply #18)
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 03:11 PM
Snake Alchemist (3,318 posts)
21. Considering Switzerland allows automatic weapons in homes what does this tell you? nt
Response to Snake Alchemist (Reply #21)
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 06:33 PM
Doctor_J (26,373 posts)
24. That guns are not as prolifigate, and more closely regulated, than here?
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That Switzerland is an anomaly in Europe? Are you trying to make the point that because the Swiss use their guns primarily for suicide, we can deduce that guns have nothing to do with gun crime in the US?
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Response to Doctor_J (Reply #24)
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 06:34 PM
Snake Alchemist (3,318 posts)
25. Try again. Guns are in almost every Swiss home yet their gun deaths are a fraction of the US's.
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Why?
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Response to onehandle (Reply #15)
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 02:53 PM
PavePusher (15,374 posts)
19. Yeah, that's exactly what he said...
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Response to marshall gaines (Reply #6)
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 02:47 PM
Doctor_J (26,373 posts)
17. Ya think?
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For reasons too deep for my brain, the US is unwilling to correlate our ridiculous gun crime rate with our ridiculous gun access. The NRA is nearly as malignant a force as Hate Radio, though they work together a lot.
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Response to Doctor_J (Reply #17)
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 03:11 PM
Snake Alchemist (3,318 posts)
22. What policies would you propose to limit access to guns? nt
Response to Tax Man (Original post)
Tue Apr 24, 2012, 03:48 PM
riverbendviewgal (2,461 posts)
23. So sad for his family
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especially his daughter.
America is very, very sick. |


