Warren: 'I'm not going to run'

[Freddie Stubbs]

Source: The Hill

Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) said Tuesday that she is not going to run for president in 2016.

"I’m not running, and I’m not going to run," Warren said on NBC's "Today," seeking to end speculation among progressives that she might challenge likely front-runner Hillary Clinton.

"I’m in Washington. I’ve got this really great job, and a chance to try and make a difference on things that really matter."

Progressive groups like MoveOn.org and Democracy For America are working to draft Warren into the race. Polls show former Secretary of State Clinton would be the clear favorite, but liberal groups have raised concerns about her Wall Street ties and say Warren could push the debate to the left on crucial issues.

Read more: http://thehill.com/policy/finance/237460-warren-im-not-going-to-run-in-2016

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Until now she was simply saying that she was not running, but refusing to say if she would run.

[cosmicone]

1. It's going to be a bad day for a lot of DUers

but wait ...

there is Bernie Sanders (not a democrat) aka Ralph Nader of 2016 .... to save the day!

[arcane1]

6. That's a lie. Sanders has said REPEATEDLY that we would not run as a 2rd party.

Got any more bullshit to spread?

[cosmicone]

9. Sanders is not a democrat

He cannot run in a democratic primary.

The only way he can run is as an independent -- unless of course he joins the democratic party. But then, it would be pragmatic game-playing -- why didn't he join the party before? Surely he must not have wanted to?

So joining the party just to get to the presidency makes Sanders like any other politician.

[Fearless]

18. He has caucused with the Democratic Party for how many years?

Why exactly are you smearing a devoted liberal?

[cosmicone]

23. So has King of Maine

In all those years, Bernie CHOSE NOT TO BE A DEMOCRAT AND REMAINED INDEPENDENT.

Now that it is convenient, he is having a death-bed conversion.

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

30. I am a HUGE supporter of Bernie, but your tone about this is wrong.

Your attitude here will do nothing but divide us.

I will be the FIRST to ATTACK the obvious "anybody but Hillary" type who is likely NOT to vote Democratic at all, let alone whether she is the nominee, but what you are doing is different.

[cosmicone]

33. I am a fan and supporter of Bernie as well

and would donate again to his campaign to be a senator from Vermont.

[Capt. Obvious]

40. That's totally believable

[C Moon]

80. :D

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

92. .

.

[JDPriestly]

109. Obstructing a Sanders run within the Democratic Party would make Hillary and the Democratic

Party look mean and exclusive. The threat will be made, but if it is carried out, the Democratic Party will be hurt very badly. It will be viewed generally as a laughing stock, a petty, mean laughing stock. But then that could easily happen to the Hillary candidacy anyway if my guess about it is right.

[cosmicone]

117. I don't know about you but

I'm suspicious of someone who has steadfastly avoided being a card carrying member of the democratic party all these years.

What makes him feel ashamed of being called a democrat?

[TekGryphon]

158. Probably the same things that make any liberal ashamed to be called a Democrat...

... at one point or another.

Bernie Sanders is an Independent because he's farther to the left than the vast majority of Democrats.

He doesn't pick third-ways. He doesn't back down to lobbyists or media furors. He sticks by his guns when so many pack up their bags the moment an issue gets rough.

[JustAnotherGen]

54. +1 except

I'm not supporting a Sanders run at this time. However - I would not think poorly of him AT ALL if he became a Democratic Party Member.

Right now - I won't support him - because he's not a Democratic.

His voting record for many years has been consistenly liberal and progressive.

[Fearless]

34. Sanders and King are unrelated.

If you want to debate specific issues Sanders supports, I would LOVE to do that. Particularly in regards to Hillary's positions on the same issues.

I will not engage in a political smear campaign.

[cosmicone]

37. I like Bernie but he is unelectable. n/t

[Fearless]

43. So was Barack Obama.

[cosmicone]

46. apples and oranges

Obama won the primaries because Hillary took the small state caucuses granted. She will not make that mistake again.

Also, Obama had a huge help from the economic meltdown in 2008. That is not going to happen in 2016.

Nevertheless, Bernie is NOT A DEMOCRAT.

[Fearless]

56. Bernie Sanders is free to caucus as a Democrat if he wants. Full stop.

And in case you haven't noticed, the economy still sucks. A populist candidate will defeat Hillary. The scary part is that it doesn't even matter which side of the aisle they're from! Populism is what got Obama elected. People needed hope. This remains the case even after the markets have begun to rebound. Main St. is still suffering and Bernie can win with a populist message.

Give me one issue you disagree with Sanders on.

[cosmicone]

63. Money, networks and machines get candidates elected

If populism was to win, what happened in 1980? 1984? 1988? 2000? 2004? Why didn't it win then?

[Fearless]

67. Populism DID win in 1980 and 84 actually

Reagan was able to make white America rally around him as their only hope to save the country from the evil boogie men of the world. He was able to paint himself as a strong defender of the American Dream of the 1950's (and the economic prosperity it entailed) and White people bought it and voted for him. Carter, though correct in his positions was painted as weak.

In 1988 neither candidate held an effective populist message.

In 2000 and 2004 neither Al Gore (who was seen as academic and boring) or John Kerry (who was seen as a northern elitist) tapped into the populist message. Bush actually did a better job at evoking the populist message by being John Q Everyman and was painted as a guy a guy would want to have a beer with.


Money, networks and machines don't get people elected. Money follows the strongest candidates. Networks form around the monied interests. And machines (I assume you mean voter fraud??) are not always helpful, look to Rove and Ohio. Of course if you meant machines as in the "political machine", they are donated by the establishment after a candidate proves themselves worthy and should be grounds for not voting for someone.

[A Simple Game]

71. Really? You don't think populism got Reagan elected? The king of the

witty one liners? The man who knew how to play the crowd against the dry and dull Carter. Then in '84 the best the Democrats could do was Mondale, who was the populist in that one?

Then in 1988, Bush against Dukakis, neither was a popular candidate. Probably Dukakis with the helmet in the tank cost him that one.

In 2000 Bush vs. Gore, the man everyone wanted to have a beer with vs the dullard? Not a populist win? Being the popular candidate is the only reason Bush got close enough to steal that one and probably the one in 2004 too.

You are right about money, network, and machine but being the popular grandfatherly candidate or the candidate people want to have a beer with also has a lot to do with it too.

Apparently you think Clinton was the populist candidate in '92 and '96?

[questionseverything]

69. obama won because he won the caucus states

and unfortunately there are less caucus states and more primaries now...

[JDPriestly]

110. That is a matter of opinion and too early to decide.

Personally, although I know that Hillary is ahead in the polls now, I question her electability.

She has a way of kind of ruffling up and becoming inwardly angry about things. That is not attractive in a candidate. Also, her ties to Pete Peterson and anti-Social-Security thugs is troubling. Her record on foreign policy is going to be controversial. She has to deal with the Clinton legacy. That's going to make her vulnerable to a lot of criticism. She is the one everyone wants to beat. The likelihood of her success should not be overrated.

[cosmicone]

116. I know she would lose in a landslide on DU

but there is a BIG world out there ------------------------------------------->>>>>

[okasha]

119. "inwardly angry about things?"

And you know what her private feelings are. That is just so special.

[Chan790]

154. So is Hillary. What's your point? n/t

[villager]

52. Smearing is what the Third-Wayers do... And they wonder why the alienate so many potential

...supporters.

[MissDeeds]

97. Agree completely

Still they will come asking for our votes during the primary season. No way Third Way. Not going to happen.

[Beacool]

160. To think that Sanders could win the Democratic nomination,

let alone the general election, is even more delusional than Cruz and Paul thinking that they have a chance at being the Republican nominee.

[Fearless]

165. Do you disagree with his positions

Or are you defeatist? I don't understand. Should we not run the best possible candidates??

[stone space]

22. Of course he can run in the Democratic Primary.

I'm not sure about your state, but here in Iowa, Sanders would most certainly be allowed to run in the 2016 Iowa Democratic Caucus.

Your state would simply have to deal with it. Just like they had to deal with Senator Obama after the 2008 Iowa Democratic Caucus.

We get first shot, so it's really not up to you.

Sorry!

[brooklynite]

91. Actually, you don't run....

...voters show up and announce support for whomever they want. There's no announcement or petitioning required.

[arcane1]

53. And that is exactly what he said, repeatedly, that he would do: run as a Dem.

It's not rocket science.

[WillTwain]

55. Bernie said if he runs it will be as a Democrat.

Unless he is confused, and you know more than him, his plans are to run as a Democrat.

[A Simple Game]

59. Pragmatic game playing? You mean like

someone buying a house in New York state so you can run for the Senate in a state very likely to give them a majority of the vote?

They used to call that type carpetbaggers, what would you call them now?

At least Sanders is more of a Democrat than most Democrats. Five seconds to sign his name on a simple form and he is a Democrat, try not to feel threatened by that fact. He puts enough time into it and wins Iowa, New Hampshire is a given, he becomes the new media darling and he is off to the races.

[CreekDog]

60. How did you cram so much FAIL in one post?

Sanders is not a democrat

(he is a small "d" democrat, you're wrong)

He cannot run in a democratic primary.

(false, he's run in Democratic primaries before)

The only way he can run is as an independent -- unless of course he joins the democratic party. But then, it would be pragmatic game-playing -- why didn't he join the party before? Surely he must not have wanted to?

(false, he can run as he is, and he has run in a primary before. also the reason he hasn't joined is because he has unique positions that do differentiate him from the party, however, if the party nominated him, it would be a perfectly legitimate reason to join with the reasoning that he does fit in the party since it had just nominated him)

So joining the party just to get to the presidency makes Sanders like any other politician.

(false, no it doesn't, his positions make him unlike any politician at his level of office)

but thanks for your concern!

[JDPriestly]

108. He caucuses with Democrats. He is a far better Democrat, more in the mainstream of

the Democratic Party than was Gore's running mate, Lieberman. Bernie Sanders would have to fill out paperwork and show that he has support within the Democratic Party.


I will vote for other Democrats in 2016, but I will not vote for or support Hillary. I think a lot of people will take my position when all is said and done.

[stone space]

134. This is silly.

He cannot run in a democratic primary.

[JonLP24]

8. Bernie Sanders wouldn't or isn't running as third party

He's been spending months in Iowa - a caucus state. Even without that there is the ballot access problem, I suppose he could go Green but it wouldn't be consistent with public statements he has made on this many times & he is a pretty straight-forward guy, one of the reasons I like him so much.

[Autumn Colors]

11. Bernie has said he would not run as an Independent

He said that if he ran for president, he would only do so as a Democrat (for the very reason you mention above -- not to be a "spoiler&quot .

From an In These Times article dated Jan. 26, 2015:
If Bernie Sanders Runs for President, It Won't Be as an Independent: "I will not be a spoiler"

[cosmicone]

14. See post #9 n/t

[Autumn Colors]

155. Translation: He will join the Democratic Party

Guess what? Bernie does that? I will volunteer, give what little money I have, vote for him in the primary, and spread the word as much as I can.

His actions are closer to what I believe and will vote for him if he changes party affiliation in order to run for President.

Why didn't he join before? Probably because he's more liberal than the Democratic party has been in decades. Frankly, I couldn't care less what his reason is. If he's among the list of Dem candidates in the primary, I'll vote for him ....

Unless Elizabeth Warren has a change of heart and runs (but if that ever happened, I suspect Bernie wouldn't run at all).

We're only talking about the primary here. If Hillary ends up the Dem. candidate in the general, I'll hold my nose and vote for her.

Don't try to paint me as some "oh, I guess you'd like it if Jeb won" type person. I'm in my 50s, registered to vote at 18, have voted straight Dem. ticket in every general election.

It would seem that my taste in candidates runs more to the left than yours does (judging by our avatars).

[cosmicone]

156. I have total respect for your position and no disagreement. n/t

[demwing]

19. Bad day for America

Good day for Hillary Helpers

[rhett o rick]

42. Your gloating is premature and immature. Many of us that were hoping that

Sen Warren would provide some competition for the Corporate choice. But we also pointed out that we are well aware that Wall Street controls the DC Democratic Machine that wants HRC and probably has made that very clear to Sen Warren. If she ran as a Democrat against the Powers That Be's favorite, she wouldn't get the Party Machine support.

But we haven't put all our hopes on HRC as she is only a part of the Populist Movement that some seem to pretend doesn't exist.

There are two sides in this class war but the so-called Centrists haven't figured out whose side to be on, the progressive side and the 99%, or the Conservative side with Goldman-Sachs and Wall Street.

[cosmicone]

47. Thank you for seeing everything as black or white

with no room for shades.

Also thank you for the conspiracy theory of wall street wanting Hillary when wall street clearly wants a republican to win.

[rhett o rick]

51. Wall Street and Goldman-Sacs are close friends of the Clintons.

Pres Clinton killed Glass-Steigel and Goldman-Sachs is in very tight with HRC. Not a theory. In a war things become very black vs. white and we are well into a class war.

[JDPriestly]

111. This will cause lots of potential voters to stay home.

There is no potential candidate with the draw and political talent of Elizabeth Warren.

What a sad day for our country. It is not a question of sad DUers. It is a sad future for our country. I just don't think that Hillary Clinton can win. There is something about her that is cold and distant when she speaks. No matter how hard she tries, she comes off as either aloof or goofy. Watch her.

[stone space]

133. What's wrong with Bernie?

I kinda' like the guy.

[Marrah_G]

138. I would vote for Sanders in a second.

[oberliner]

2. How many different ways and times do people need her to say this before they believe it?

Time to respect her wishes.

[RKP5637]

4. Exactly! She's a very smart person, she knows what she is doing, saying and why! n/t

[Cryptoad]

3. Wish she would but Lizzy knows ,,,

that a Progressive can never be elected Prez thanks to the GOP stacked SCOTUS....

[Fearless]

15. Who is this "Lizzy" exactly?

[Cryptoad]

25. uhhhhhhuh,,,,,,, take a guess,,,,,,

[Fearless]

41. Sounds like a boorish dismissive pat on the head

Aimed at someone in an effort to belittle them, something a kin the misogynistic stereotype of a docile 50's woman.

[A Simple Game]

74. Yes is does sound dismissive especially when referring to one of our best defenders

in the Senate.

Maybe we should start referring to a certain someone as Hilly?

[Cryptoad]

90. See if you knew half as much as thought you did,,,

you would know she likes to be called Lizzy,,,,,,,,

[Fearless]

94. If I knew half as much as I thought I did

I'd believe that you two were fast friends.

[MissDeeds]

98. So, it's okay to refer to Sen. Warren as "Lizzy"?

How rude and condescending.

[Cryptoad]

125. How funny,,,,

on a internet discussion board you may go ahead and call her whatever you want to. yall make be laugh,,,,,

[JDPriestly]

112. Lizzy as in "Tin Lizzy." Dismissive, belittling, evoking an old-fashioned, outmoded image.

The term "Lizzy" for Elizabeth Warren, a former Harvard law professor is demeaning and possibly sexist.

[MissDeeds]

130. I agree

It's offensive on so many levels.

[yallerdawg]

5. Yes, but...

She did not say, "If elected, I will not serve."

Game on!

[snooper2]

7. are you serious or just trolling everyone with WARREN! in their sigs?

[yallerdawg]

16. Well, she left a little wiggle-room.

Hope springs eternal.

[Cha]

126. lol, yallerdawg

[geek tragedy]

10. .

[RiverLover]

12. That article is from January & the author is a Hillary camp operative

He attempted another hit piece on the Draft Warren efforts yesterday.

One Of These Things Is Not Like The Other: Why Elizabeth Warren Is Not Ted Cruz
3/30/15

In which we learn that Elizabeth Warren and Ted Cruz are by no means the same

It is an interesting place in which Senator Professor Warren finds herself these days. If it's not progressive nuisances acting as though she's running for president, even though she's not, it's Republicans virtually daring timid Democrats to align with her so that they can then be defined by Republicans as radical redistributionists or some such nonsense. Naturally, the elite political press is above all this petty foolishness and trickery. It simply casts the whole business into the basic paradigm of Both Sides Do It, and it finds a template that does not require the messy business of actual analysis.

To wit: Elizabeth Warren Is—oh, excuse me, "plays the role of"—Ted Cruz.
(Elizabeth Warren plays Ted Cruz role with House Democrats, 3/30/15 by Kevin cirilli)



One former Democratic staffer turned financial services lobbyist compared Warren's involvement in the House to Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas), who frequently meets with House Republicans. "Elizabeth Warren is the mirror image of Ted Cruz, and if we aren't careful, she'll drive the Democrats into the same ditch Cruz is trying to drive the Republicans," the former Democratic staffer said.

This person is an idiot and should not be allowed to hold anyone's money, including their own. Is there an indication that Warren will shut down the government if she doesn't get her way on the TTP? (And that's leaving aside the self-evident fact that , as it turned out last fall, the Republicans ended up not at all in any kind of ditch.) Ted Cruz is an authentic extremist; his views on church-and-state are blatantly theocratic, and his notion of the federal union stopped evolving when the results came in from the presidential election of 1860. Elizabeth Warren's primary mission during her time in the Senate is the re-establishment of an economic order with which most people were happy from 1945 until the election of Ronald Reagan in 1980. There's nothing radical about the Glass-Steagall Act. There's nothing extreme about supporting both Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid in their traditional forms. On the other hand, Ted Cruz has gone a long way toward mainstreaming crackpot notions that everyone thought dead and buried with the Goldwater campaign, if not the Confederate States of America.

Cruz's campaign deployed a brand of Glenn Beck-like Tentherism, warning, among other things, that the United Nations was plotting with George Soros to get the federal government to crack down on golf courses in the name of sustainability. He pledged, à la Ron Paul, to eliminate the departments of education, commerce, and energy, along with the TSA and the IRS. He floated ideas that were unorthodox by traditional GOP standards but pet issues among Federalist Society types, including the use of interstate compacts—an agreement between two or more states—to nullify the individual mandate that is the backbone of health care reform. His theory, drawing on Supreme Court precedent, is that once Congress green-lights such a compact, it will supersede whatever federal law is in place, acting as a backdoor veto.

Today, Warren announced that she would support Chuck Schumer to replace Harry Reid as Minority Leader of the Senate. Ted Cruz has dedicated his entire career—and seems poised to dedicate his entire presidential campaign—to telling Mitch McConnell and the rest of his party's leadership in the Congress to pound sand. Which of them is the radical again?

The comparison is stupid and wrong, but it is quintessential Washington political journalism....

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a34013/elizabeth-warren-ted-cruz/

[OilemFirchen]

27. The article is from today.

It also cites this:

Elizabeth Warren on 2016: 'I’m not going to run' — and Hillary Clinton deserves 'a chance to decide'

... datelined three hours ago.

[emulatorloo]

28. Article is dated 3/31/2015. Here is the article from the Today show, posted 3 hrs ago.

http://t.today.com/news/elizabeth-warren-2016-im-not-going-run-hillary-clinton-deserves-2D80578406




On The Show

Elizabeth Warren on 2016: 'I’m not going to run' — and Hillary Clinton deserves 'a chance to decide'

Eun Kyung KimTODAY3 hours ago

Sen. Elizabeth Warren, a populist figure among the Democratic faithful after taking on Wall Street and the banking industry, reaffirmed to Savannah Guthrie on TODAY Tuesday that she has no plans to run for president in 2016.


"No. I’m not running and I’m not going to run," she said. "I’m in Washington. I’ve got this really great job and a chance to try and make a difference on things that really matter."

Warren said her political interests remain firmly on issues she can help make an impact from her Senate perch — like lowering interest rates on student loans, raising the minimum wage, and bolstering Social Security.

"There's a lot to fight over right this minute," she said.

According to Warren, Hillary Clinton should be given space to lay out her political intentions, along with her vision for a White House under her administration.

“I think we need to give her a chance to decide if she’s going to run and to lay out what she wants to run on,” the Massachusetts senator said when asked whether the Clinton would be the right Democratic candidate to fight for the middle class. “I think that’s her opportunity to do that.”

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I wish she would run but she isn't.

[RiverLover]

35. Thanks/sorry. Speed reading is getting me in trouble today.

I should be fully concentrating on my job. The universe is teaching me a lesson.

[emulatorloo]

39. Oh I hate when that happens. Somedays there is way to much to process.

[Fearless]

13. I recall her evoking her first meeting with Sen. Kennedy yesterday

She described a man who was tired and burdened heavily by his duties but who was willing to take up another cause (in that case reforming bankruptcy laws) because it was the right thing to do and he was the best shot there was at getting it passed.

So then I say to her, you are the best shot we have in 2016. Please run. We need you. You are our best hope at reclaiming the American Dream from the monied interests who have bought this country over and over and over. Please.

[pnwmom]

17. Actually, she first said she was "not going to run" a few months ago.

But nobody wanted to believe her.

[olddad56]

24. She has never even hinted that she would run.

It is just that we are so used to politicians that lie that when an honest one comes around, we don't want to believe her.

[jberryhill]

31. That was then, this is now

Clearly, she is saying that not enough people have urged her to run yet.

[Fearless]

20. Not exactly a ringing endorsement of Clinton by Warren either... if you read the article...

"Warren did not endorse Clinton, who is expected to announce her candidacy in the coming weeks.

She also sidestepped a question from NBC's Savannah Guthrie about whether Clinton was the right candidate to fight for the middle class.

“I think we need to give her a chance to decide if she’s going to run and to lay out what she wants to run on,” Warren answered. “I think that’s her opportunity to do that.”"

[geek tragedy]

32. There is at least one other candidate, so an endorsement

is premature.

[Fearless]

38. Actually there are NO candidates currently

But let's take Gov. Pence's responses on ABC yesterday regarding the idiotic bill he signed.

Each time he deflected questions about whether it would impact LGBT people, we all know what he meant.

But now when Warren does the exact same thing, surely she was only stating what she did for the reason you suggested, and didn't mean that she wasn't comfortable with a corporate hack running the Democratic Party.

Give me a break.

[geek tragedy]

50. I find your comparison of Elizabeth Warren and Mike Pence odious.

She is not a lying asshat scumbag politician.

She is not endorsing because (a) as you pointed out there are no candidates; (b) there are likely two candidates who would LOVE to have her endorsement, so why should she give it and much of her leverage away?

[Fearless]

62. Like it or not, they are both politicians

And has you said... "why should she give it and much of her leverage away".

She will continue to fight for the people of this nation even as Hillary sells it to corporations through support of the TPP.

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

44. Willing to bet she will HEAVILY endorse and support her.

Not a lot, maybe $50.

winning money could be donated to the Democratic nominee for president?

[Fearless]

49. She may support specific issues but she will not support TPP for instance

She will fight the next Democratic president (or Republican) who fights for corporate interests over individual rights. She may play the political game and endorse her publicly if such a position would lead to her being able to fight for the middle class better. Let us hope that we find a more Main St. oriented candidate though, one who actually fights for the American people because it's the right thing to do, not just because it's polling well at the moment.

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

61. Good, wouldnt expect anything less...I would also bet money that if you could talk to her one on one

and ask her to compare a future with Hillary as prez vs ANY con, that she would assault you with reasons why the con would be ten million times worse

wiling to bet big on that one

[Fearless]

64. And she would say that a future with a true liberal leader would be better than Hillary.

Why exactly are compromising away our leverage before the fight as started exactly?

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

65. Oh I am not doing that, I support Bernie, for instance. But until he runs I will openly support

Hillary who while has not announced, has made it clear she will

I would Love Bernie or Grayson or even Warren, instead

[Fearless]

68. Neither candadate has announced candidacy

Both are setting up campaigns. Sanders is barnstorming Iowa and Clinton is setting up her political machine on the east coast.

There is no difference in their positions currently.

Yet you support Hillary because Bernie hasn't announced his candidacy yet?

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

79. I follow Bernie very closely, I see no signs of his announcing. To do so he would first join the

DEM party, which he has NOT done.

He said he would NOT run as an independent or socialist or whatever.

Yes, UNTIL someone ELSE announces that I support, you bet your ass, I will have Hillary's name everywhere.

[Fearless]

82. Sometimes we see what we want to see

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

83. Oh bullshit, my friend in San Francisco and myself follow him intensely.

THe moment he announces, I will look for a cool sig pic I can use, I will AGAIN send him money.


My friend and I are pretty much on Bernie all the time, as in where he is, what he is saying.

[Fearless]

84. But until then?

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

85. Until then I support both, ALL liberal or moderate Democrats or independents or socialists

like Bernie and Elizabeth and Hillary...

Was there something else I was suppose to be doing other than sending Bernie money and supporting all NON cons?

[Fearless]

86. You contradict yourself.

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

87. NOt at all, I am an actual supporter of political candidates, I put my money and effort

where my mouth is

So far from you all I see is whining

[LanternWaste]

88. Just as often, we fail to see those things we don't want to.

Just as often, we fail to see those things we don't want to.

[A Simple Game]

75. You support Bernie? How, by supporting Hillary?

If you supported Bernie you would be encouraging him to run. Your last line says you want anyone but Hillary, but you say you support Hillary, why?

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

77. A. did NOT say anyone but Hillary

B. I support Bernie, financially. If he DECIDES to run I will change my sig

I said I liked others over Hillary, but be sure of this, WHOEVER the Dem nominee is, I will work for that person and support that person as if MY LIFE depends on it










because it will

[MADem]

139. Hillary supported Bernie, so why would that be surprising?

Bernie received funds from HILLPAC, a PAC run by HRC during her Senate years to help Democrats (and plainly, other progressives) get elected to the Senate.


So many false divides--they have way more in common, Warren, Clinton and Sanders--than what separates them.

Only here on DU do people take small differences and make them chasms.

[JDPriestly]

113. If you follow Elizabeth Warren as I do, you will realize that she disagrees with Hillary

on a number of issues. Hillary is a sold-out politician. It's really sad that the Democratic Party is so dominated by the machine politicians. Trust me. I know this because I have been active in it. California grass-roots Democrats tried to change the Party in the 1960s, but it is back to its old tricks.

Elizabeth Warren should run. She may now say she will not run, but we shall see. Anyone is free to change her mind. I hope Hillary decides not to run. She will not make a good candidate. She sounds like she is scolding very often. She will not make a good candidate. Need I say it again. My ear is pretty good for these things.

[Corey_Baker08]

21. I Can Only Hope That She Will Play A Vital Role In The Next Administration...

In a November 3, 2014 interview with people magazine under the headline 'The YouTube Senator' Senator Elizabeth Warren emphatically stated that she would not run for President in 2016, but Senator Warren went onto say that she would love to be Treasury Secretary in a Hillary Clinton Administration.

While I love, respect & admire the work she is doing in the United States Senate, Regardless of who the Nominee of the Democratic Party is for President in 2016, WHEN WE WIN THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, I believe that Senator Elizabeth Warren should be considered for a high level cabinet position in the next Administration!

[JDPriestly]

114. Hillary is perfectly capable of promising Warren the sky and then forgetting about it.

I would like to see Elizabeth Warren appointing our next Secretary of Treasury. And I won't change my mind.

[Corey_Baker08]

140. I Would Too But Unfortunately She Isn't Running

[PoliticAverse]

26. Today's businessinsider.com article on her...

http://www.businessinsider.com/elizabeth-warren-im-not-running-im-not-running-2015-3

[jberryhill]

29. But what does she *mean* by that

[morningfog]

103. If she is "not going to run," it must mean she is running!

What a sly announcement.

[jberryhill]

105. That's what I was thinking

[TheCowsCameHome]

36. That's OK with me

As a senator she can continue to kick ass and take names.

You go, Elizabeth.

[djean111]

45. This Warren supporter is not having a bad day at all. I support Warren's ideas, and I am hoping I

will be able to support any Progressive or liberal candidate at all, because I will not support a Third Way corporate candidate.

Hopefully we can skip that stupid hair on fire, heads exploding, weirdly violent crap that gets said about non-Hillary supporters.

[JDPriestly]

115. I'm sticking with Warren no matter what she does or does not want.

I could support Sanders, but Warren is the most charismatic and sympa of all Democrats.

She is genuine, sincere and lovable. She should be the candidate.

Hillary is to hard, too cold, too sold-out or at least that is the way she comes across. Not a good choice.

[okasha]

124. I want someone who can handle

Putin and jawbone Congress.

You seem to want a National Den Mother.

[rhett o rick]

48. Seems some how un-Democratic for the HRC supporters to relish the idea

that HRC won't have competition in the primaries. I do understand their concern with having debates between HRC and Sen Warren.

[villager]

57. You would think HRC's supporters would realize principled primary debates would be good...

...for her candidacy, and get her in better position, and shape, for the general.

[rhett o rick]

81. Not necessarily. Debates with Sen Warren would reveal her conservative side. nm

[hrmjustin]

58. She has been clear once again.

[Baclava]

99. "I’m not running, and I’m not going to run"

"I’m not running, and I’m not going to run"

"I’m not running, and I’m not going to run"

"I’m not running, and I’m not going to run"


DU:



ha!

well, maybe she is, who knows

[hrmjustin]

102. lol.

[Cali_Democrat]

135. Funny....

[riqster]

66. Warren is straight-up. Good on her.

Anybody who is hated by Wall Street is doing something right.

[TheProgressive]

70. Well, Senator Sanders better run for President...

or some other *real* progressive/liberal/Democrat.

I refuse to have a candidate forced upon me like Hillary Clinton - especially when
'everyone' is saying she already won.

I will not ever again vote for a republican registered as a Democrat. Period. Therefore, it is
the job of the Democratic Party to present *real* Democrats in elections. Period.

[harun]

72. If we get a Clinton vs. Bush contest I'd be surprised if turnout was even 15%.

*yawn fest*

[FailureToCommunicate]

73. Would Warren say "yes" to run with Hillary as Vice President candidate I wonder?

Don't know if that would help Democrat's chances, but it would sure wake up the electorate wouldn't it?

[BlueMTexpat]

78. I sincerely hope not.

She is MUCH too important exactly where she is!

In fact, I'd hate to lose ANY good Dem Reps or Sens to a VP slot. We need them all to keep up the good fight in the legislative branch.

Hopefully, if Hillary indeed declares her candidature and becomes the Dem nominee after a primary process, she will select an excellent Dem running mate who is not currently an incumbent in any important national or gubernatorial office.

[brooklynite]

89. "I'm not going to run".....what is she trying to tell us?

Why can't she be clear?

[workinclasszero]

93. "Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) said Tuesday that she is not going to run for president in 2016."

So can we have political discussions here based on reality now?

Or are Sen Warrens boosters still going to call her a liar??

Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) said Tuesday that she is not going to run for president in 2016.

[wordpix]

95. I'm ready to write Warren a check once (if) she's in

[wordpix]

96. since she's not endorsing Clinton right now

I think she's leaving the door open

[certainot]

100. not surprising. the collective left does not have her back nor

that of any other real progressive candidate and she has to be able to sense it.

the attacks and swiftboating and threats that can be leveled at anyone the right perceives to be 'too liberal' , the money needed to run a campaign, and the obstruction someone like obama faced/faces would be enough to turn anyone off.

leading the charge and making the political sewage and threats, the obstruction, and effective opposition toward campaign finance reform possible is the rw radio monopoly- which the left ignores with a passion.

if we want ideal or good candidates and for them to make progress once they win the left has to attack, and that has to start with rw radio, which is not only the right's best weapon, but the most vulnerable.

[Kingofalldems]

101. Happy now?

[Nye Bevan]

104. She has made her intentions clear. I hope people stop bullying her over this now (nt)

[rhett o rick]

118. I don't believe a word. First of all, how is praising her and asking her to run "bullying".

And secondly, I bet you are glad that H. Clinton won't have to debate her.

[Nye Bevan]

121. On the contrary:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026334571

[Cha]

127. Haha! Proof to shoot down that stupid accusation.

[rhett o rick]

131. I will retract my comment. nm

[brooklynite]

144. Question is why you made the comment in the first place....

...since the evidence has been clear for months that no Clinton supporter here has ever said Warren shouldn't run.

[rhett o rick]

149. You continue to misrepresent what I say as if you are trying to get me to fight. I am not going to

play your game. Sorry.

[brooklynite]

150. "I bet you are glad that H. Clinton won't have to debate her."

Since any campaign would assume debates, and since the Clinton supporters have no objection to Warren (or for that matter Sanders) running, it seems fairly obvious that there would be no concern about the outcome of a debate.

[rhett o rick]

151. Then why are HRC supporter all aglow in thread after thread stating the Sen Warren isn't

running? They sound excited that HRC won't be tested. Almost gloating that HRC is a shoo in.

By the way if Sen Warren doesn't run the Populist Movement will continue in spite of Wall Street choosing the Democratic candidate.

[brooklynite]

153. Point to a statement that expresses happiness Warren isn't running...

I've focused on the FACT that Warren isn't running to hopefully avoid the annoyance of Warren supporters complaining that they "weren't given a choice", when they could have spent their time encouraging someone who wanted to run (say, Sanders) rather than fantasizing on a never existent Warren candidacy.

[Helen Borg]

106. Honestly... Warren needs protection, 24/7...

[brooklynite]

145. Um, why would that be?

And do you have the slightest evidence that this is the case?

Or does this belong in the Conspiracy Theory section?

[LiberalLovinLug]

107. I dream of the day when

Americans finally realize the horror of voting for Teapublicans and the choice from the Right will be a Clintons/Rahm Emanuel/Scott Peters/ Claire McCaskill etc.. vs. some new party of the center/left with leaders like Warren/Sanders/Dean/de Blasio/Franken/Grayson

One can dream......

[Nye Bevan]

122. I doubt it, as the DLC has not existed since 2011,

but even if that was true, would we want as president a person who would so meekly defer to such a request?

[rhett o rick]

132. I wouldn't be surprised if those running the DC Democratic Party Machine told Sen

Warren it wasn't her turn and to back off. I don't think it's being "meek" to recognize that if your own Party Machine isn't going to back you, you might want to back off. As far as the DLC, it may have changed it's name but it's still alive and well in the Third Way.

[brooklynite]

146. I see...like the DC Democratic Party machine told Obama in 2008?

Bottom line -- you don't have any evidence that this happened (nb - I know people in Warren's organization and it DIDN'T), and meek or not, you're saying she wouldn't have had the courage to run on her own terms if she wanted to. Why then would you want to support her?

[Cha]

128. You don't give Senator Warren much credit. Imo, if she wanted to run..no one would dissuade her.

even the phantom dlc.

[Cha]

123. I’m not running, and I’m not going to run," "I’m in Washington. I’ve got this really great job, and

a chance to try and make a difference on things that really matter."

Can't get any more plain spoken than that.

Thanks Freddie

[Major Hogwash]

136. Houston, we have a problem . . .

[Marrah_G]

137. I adore Sen Warren

But I am glad she is not running. I think she can do more good as a Senator.

[wordpix]

141. great interview last night w/Rachel

I love Sen. Warren. She has a lot of fire in her belly to right the ship of state and stop the corporate puppetmaster takeover

[Orsino]

142. Good to see her finally use a future tense.

Previous assurances, as I recall, only said "I'm not running." That was pretty damned clear, but it feels good to let go of that last, faint hope for 2016.

Hope she's still interested in pushing Secretary Clinton a bit to the left.

[brooklynite]

147. You mean, as opposed to what she said in January?

http://www.thenation.com/blog/194889/elizabeth-warren-says-she-wont-run-draft-warren-activists-plan-change-her-mind#

Elizabeth Warren Says She Won’t Run

Fortune magazine announced Tuesday that it had obtained “the final word on a White House run” from Elizabeth Warren.

And that word was “no.”

Interviewing Warren for Fortune, former FDIC chairman Sheila Bair asked: “So are you going to run for President?”

“No,”replied the senator from Massachusetts.

Bottom line, people just chose to ignore whatever she said about not running.

[Orsino]

148. Oh. Hadn't heard that one.

Will-she or won't-she questions always struck me as attempts to get her to promise not to run, or to assert some right of the press to controversy. As much as we need someone like her in the Oval Office, I never required anything more for Warren than "I'll let you know if I decide to run."

[ppatproduction]

143. She will always do great things

I support every decision she makes.

[spin]

152. I believe Elizabeth is a far better candidate than Hillary. ...

I think younger voters would be far more enthusiastic about Elizabeth than they would Hillary. Warren is willing to take on Wall Street while Hillary just wants Wall Street money for her campaign.
I've also listened to Elizabeth Warren speak and she has FAR more charisma than Hillary.

We need to find a way to convince Elizabeth to run.

[madville]

157. I would be disappointed if they didn't already have a deal in place

Didn't Clinton and Warren have a private meeting about a month ago?

[Beacool]

159. This is becoming farcical.

How about respecting her enough to accept her decision and stop pressuring and hounding her over this issue? She must be sick and tired of getting this same question over and over again.

[CTyankee]

161. I think some people refuse to believe it because it just kinda breaks their heart...

I know I felt a bit sad after reading her book knowing that she won't run for president. She is so good. But in all fairness I can honestly understand why she doesn't want to run. So here's the next best thing for Dems like me. Vow to work for the candidate that most closely espouses her views on making our society more equal again. Identify yourself as a Progressive proudly and don't back away from being bold just like she is...

[Beacool]

162. I can understand the heartbreak.

In 2008 my heart was broken, not only did I think that Hillary was qualified to be president, I thought that she had the experience to do an effective job. I will always think that it should have been Hillary first and then Obama.

Having said that, life is full of disappointments but we have to learn to move on. Sen. Warren is doing a fine job where she's at and has said that she wants to remain there. I have said this repeatedly, not every politician aspires to be president. It confers on the person tremendous power, but it's also a very stressful and demanding job that consumes their entire life for at least four years. It's not for everyone.

[CTyankee]

163. Yes, you put that nicely.

And anyway, whoever said you get to have whatever you want?

People have only so much energy. She is wisely using her energy on the issue of income inequality. A pres. bid would tear her into a million different pieces and she knows she is FAR more effective homing in on her passion...

[Beacool]

164. Exactly!!