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Sun Apr 22, 2012, 08:56 AM

Iran starts cloning of American spy drone

Source: RT

Iran has completed reverse-engineering of the captured US spy drone and has started building its own copy, Iranian media reports.

The Revolutionary Guard is yet to decode parts of the software the Sentinel aircraft uses, General Amir Ali Hajizadeh, who heads the force’s aerospace division, said on Sunday.

"The Americans should be aware to what extent we have infiltrated the plane," Iranian Fars news agency quoted the general as saying. "Our experts have a full understanding of its components and programs."

The Pentagon stated that the drone’s security will prevent Iranian engineers from cracking its technology.
Tehran has already copied the Sentinel – as a toy, and sent one to the US as a mocking response to America’s request to hand over the aircraft.

Iran announced capturing RQ-170 Sentinel surveillance UAV in December 2011. The US believed that the aircraft crashed in Iran’s desolate mountainous area, but apparently Iranian military managed to hack into the drone’s control system and bring it down.

Earlier this week Tehran said a number of nations approached Iran over possible sharing of military technology it may have developed through studying its drone prize. China and Russia reportedly showed the most interest.

Read more: http://rt.com/news/iran-spy-drone-copy-667/

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Reply Iran starts cloning of American spy drone (Original post)
TomClash Apr 2012 OP
xchrom Apr 2012 #1
cstanleytech Apr 2012 #2
Kolesar Apr 2012 #5
reACTIONary Apr 2012 #32
mbperrin Apr 2012 #12
cstanleytech Apr 2012 #28
mbperrin Apr 2012 #40
cstanleytech Apr 2012 #41
mbperrin Apr 2012 #44
sofa king Apr 2012 #3
Amonester Apr 2012 #4
NBachers Apr 2012 #9
Amonester Apr 2012 #15
saras Apr 2012 #23
kickysnana Apr 2012 #6
obxhead Apr 2012 #7
Rosa Luxemburg Apr 2012 #18
Life Long Dem Apr 2012 #8
Thor_MN Apr 2012 #27
nineteen50 Apr 2012 #10
Archae Apr 2012 #11
harun Apr 2012 #13
Flatulo Apr 2012 #20
reACTIONary Apr 2012 #33
RC Apr 2012 #14
Archae Apr 2012 #17
ronnie624 Apr 2012 #16
Flatulo Apr 2012 #21
saras Apr 2012 #24
Flatulo Apr 2012 #29
coalition_unwilling Apr 2012 #22
Flatulo Apr 2012 #30
Amonester Apr 2012 #31
Flatulo Apr 2012 #36
reACTIONary Apr 2012 #34
jberryhill Apr 2012 #42
itsrobert Apr 2012 #19
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2012 #25
Duer 157099 Apr 2012 #26
Robb Apr 2012 #35
got root Apr 2012 #37
Robb Apr 2012 #38
hack89 Apr 2012 #39
jberryhill Apr 2012 #43

Response to TomClash (Original post)

Sun Apr 22, 2012, 09:07 AM

1. Du rec. Nt

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Response to TomClash (Original post)

Sun Apr 22, 2012, 09:07 AM

2. Arent these drones though largely built with most off the shelf parts and

technology thats decades old? If so then its kinda silly imo for them to be trumpeting their horns about "reverse engineering" anything.

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Response to cstanleytech (Reply #2)

Sun Apr 22, 2012, 09:50 AM

5. I am skeptical. This article looks speculative...

...to the point of being hyperbolic.

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Response to Kolesar (Reply #5)

Sun Apr 22, 2012, 09:28 PM

32. The source is RT, Russia Today, Kremlin funded propaganda outlet. NT

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Response to cstanleytech (Reply #2)

Sun Apr 22, 2012, 11:14 AM

12. Bit silly for the Pentagon to claim they can't be copied as well, isn't it?

So the killing will continue to protect the silliness.

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Response to mbperrin (Reply #12)

Sun Apr 22, 2012, 06:07 PM

28. They might have meant the software if it was encrypted also if its made out of

some composites it might be hard for Iran to figure out how to manufacture them on their own unless of course china and or russian provide them "assistance" in that area.

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Response to cstanleytech (Reply #28)

Mon Apr 23, 2012, 06:52 PM

40. They might have. They also might not want me to know that it's not much more

complex than an RC plane and a surfboard composite, cause we paid a LOT a LOT a LOT for these things.

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Response to mbperrin (Reply #40)

Mon Apr 23, 2012, 06:55 PM

41. Now I cant get the image out of my head that they also installed an mp3 player with the beach boys

music in it, thanks

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Response to cstanleytech (Reply #41)

Tue Apr 24, 2012, 12:19 AM

44. Shucks, I was hoping for All Along the Watchtower! :) nt

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Response to TomClash (Original post)

Sun Apr 22, 2012, 09:08 AM

3. Enjoy those views of Iraq and Afghanistan.

I believe we've seen quite enough of the lot of them.

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Response to TomClash (Original post)

Sun Apr 22, 2012, 09:27 AM

4. And the stupid race for drones has begun...

Drones everywhere and in your backyard! Yipee!

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Response to Amonester (Reply #4)

Sun Apr 22, 2012, 11:07 AM

9. We must maintain Drone Superiority to prevent a Drone Gap

I'm waiting for the small advertising bumbledrones that will hover around you like flies. Swat one down and there's a huge corporate penalty to pay.

Capture one, hack back into the system, and make them stalk & harass everyone to vote Republican.

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Response to NBachers (Reply #9)

Sun Apr 22, 2012, 11:46 AM

15. The Mosquito Drones (TM) will inject GPS-microchips under your skin so...

Big Brother (TM) will always 'know where you've been' coming soon.

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Response to NBachers (Reply #9)

Sun Apr 22, 2012, 01:35 PM

23. Shop Vac. BTW what you describe is, in fact, being studied

 

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Response to TomClash (Original post)

Sun Apr 22, 2012, 09:55 AM

6. Finders keepers law I presume. n/t

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Response to TomClash (Original post)

Sun Apr 22, 2012, 10:37 AM

7. On and on the drums of war beat.

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Response to obxhead (Reply #7)

Sun Apr 22, 2012, 12:19 PM

18. The chickenhawks are very determined

they haven't finished their axis of evil thing.

They are not going to use any more of our money for war unless it is really necessary.

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Response to TomClash (Original post)

Sun Apr 22, 2012, 10:51 AM

8. What's the difference between an RC plane and a drone?

 

Not much really.

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Response to Life Long Dem (Reply #8)

Sun Apr 22, 2012, 04:20 PM

27. The price.

A RC plane is a relatively cheap aircraft that you buy if you enjoy the hobby. A drone is a very expensive aircraft that you are forced to buy because the military enjoys spending your money. Otherwise, they are pretty much the same thing.

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Response to TomClash (Original post)

Sun Apr 22, 2012, 11:11 AM

10. and

the blowback begins

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Response to TomClash (Original post)

Sun Apr 22, 2012, 11:14 AM

11. Any bets as to how long it flies before crashing?

My money's on their drone crashing on takeoff.

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Response to Archae (Reply #11)

Sun Apr 22, 2012, 11:35 AM

13. Yah, it is sooooo dificult to make remote control planes

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Response to harun (Reply #13)

Sun Apr 22, 2012, 12:57 PM

20. Not so sure about that.

The batwing shape is inherently unstable and can't fly without hundreds of corrections per second to the aircraft's control surfaces. to do that, they'd have to crack the drone's firmware which is surely something that would be heavily encrypted.

I haven't seen this shape as an RC model. The Iranian regime has a gift for hyperbole and self-prpmoting propaganda.

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Response to harun (Reply #13)

Sun Apr 22, 2012, 09:30 PM

33. As someone who knows folks who make them...

...I can tell you that it certainly is hard to make them. Very difficult.

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Response to Archae (Reply #11)

Sun Apr 22, 2012, 11:43 AM

14. Probably not.

 

Drones are aircraft, after all and the fundamentals of both flight and the remote control of same are well understood. The only thing "secret" here is the software controlling their autonomy.

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Response to RC (Reply #14)

Sun Apr 22, 2012, 12:14 PM

17. Except the configuration of this particular drone is different.

It needs major computers just to be stable.

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Response to Archae (Reply #11)

Sun Apr 22, 2012, 11:48 AM

16. Why?

Why would Iranians be incapable of understanding, developing or copying technologies? Are their brains smaller than those of Americans?

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Response to ronnie624 (Reply #16)

Sun Apr 22, 2012, 12:58 PM

21. No, but I would expect the drone's firmware to be heavily encrypted. Nt

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Response to Flatulo (Reply #21)

Sun Apr 22, 2012, 01:36 PM

24. This has never stopped anyone else before, including grad students. Why now?

 

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Response to saras (Reply #24)

Sun Apr 22, 2012, 07:59 PM

29. Not sure which incident you're referring to...

A few years ago, Iraqi resistance was able to intercept live video feed from an American drone, but that video feed was not encrypted. Hopefully we've learned from that.

Encrypted data is very hard to crack. The NSA can do it by brute force using supercomputing clusters that the Iranians can only dream about. Not because they're dumber than us (I know a lot of first rate Iranian engineers), but because our defense budget is about 1000x larger than theirs.

Then again, who knows?

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Response to ronnie624 (Reply #16)

Sun Apr 22, 2012, 01:03 PM

22. Iran (aka "Persia") has been around a fuck of a lot longer than

 

the U.S.A. Um, we're talking all the way back to classical Greece if not earlier. As an Islamic culture, it has existed since roughly 700 A.D., IIRC. America is just current events to Persians.

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Response to ronnie624 (Reply #16)

Sun Apr 22, 2012, 08:09 PM

30. Not at all, but we do spend over 100 times what they do on defense.

Some things are pretty hard to do. The Iranians certainly understand how an atomic bomb works, but they are 70 years behind us because we threw 100,000 people and $20t in todays dollars at the problem.

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Response to Flatulo (Reply #30)

Sun Apr 22, 2012, 09:03 PM

31. On what? Toilet seats?







OnEdit: Couldn't resist!

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Response to Amonester (Reply #31)

Sun Apr 22, 2012, 11:12 PM

36. Best in the world. Guaranteed to not freeze your arse off.

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Response to ronnie624 (Reply #16)

Sun Apr 22, 2012, 09:36 PM

34. Iranians have some very good engineers and technicians....

... intelligent and well educated. But they don't have the industrial base and same level of manufacturing capability and experience as we, and other Western industrial nations do. That counts for a great deal.

Doesn't mean they won't get there eventually, however.

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Response to ronnie624 (Reply #16)

Mon Apr 23, 2012, 08:16 PM

42. Depends on the materials

Being able to analyze the composition of some composites, and being able to manufacture them, is not the same thing.

There's nothing magic about making a remote control airplane, but making one of this particular type and capabilities is a little tricky, and not all of the tricks are made apparent by taking it apart.

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Response to TomClash (Original post)

Sun Apr 22, 2012, 12:23 PM

19. All they have to do now is have China manufacture these

Let the Drone Wars begin.

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Response to TomClash (Original post)

Sun Apr 22, 2012, 01:57 PM

25. Game of Drones?

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Reply #25)

Sun Apr 22, 2012, 02:07 PM

26. When you play the game of drones...

you win or you die

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Response to TomClash (Original post)

Sun Apr 22, 2012, 10:22 PM

35. LOL. Iran couldn't even mock up the landing gear.

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Response to Robb (Reply #35)

Sun Apr 22, 2012, 11:13 PM

37. They did a pretty good job hacking it and then landing it

 

I'm sure the landing gear wont give then too much trouble.

Wonder how long before we see drones from every nation dealing our version of international justice?

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Response to got root (Reply #37)

Mon Apr 23, 2012, 08:08 AM

38. Whatever you say.

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Response to got root (Reply #37)

Mon Apr 23, 2012, 10:12 AM

39. There is no evidence they hacked it. nt

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Response to got root (Reply #37)

Mon Apr 23, 2012, 08:18 PM

43. If you want to believe that.

It may even come with a surprise inside.

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