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What's new at DU! (updated Dec 6 2011)

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Welcome to the latest DU software preview! This is a preview of our new message board software.

Please be aware that since this software is still under development a number of features that you currently enjoy on DU are not available on DU3 Preview at this time, but rest assured they will be included in the final release.

The following is a list of working improvements that are included in this preview version of the software. Think of this as the foundation upon which the new DU will be built.

NOTE: This thread will be continually updated as new changes are made to the software.

Latest update: Dec 6 2011
Previous updates: May 17 2011, Feb 16 2011, Jan 20 2011

What's new at DU

Too many things to mention

Seriously, there have been a vast number of changes we have made to the software since the last revision -- and since we didn't write them all down at the time it's pretty much impossible for us to recount them here. So we'll just say, for everything you need to know to post on the new DU: click here.

--Updated May 17 2011--

Forum and group rearrangement

Most of the DU2 forums you've come to know and love (and of course, hate) are still present on DU3, but we have made a few fairly significant changes. First, only a few forums are now referred to as "forums". These are:

* Announcements
* Latest Breaking News
* General Discussion: Political Videos
* General Discussion: Recommended Reading
* General Discussion: Soapbox
* The DU Lounge
* DU Help & Meta-discussion

Everything else on DU is now referred to as a "group". There are some good reasons for this that we aren't going to go into a lot of detail about at this time. But don't worry -- unlike DU2, groups on DU3 are now open to everyone. You no longer have to be a donor to post in a group.

New forums

You'll have noticed from the list above that along with a few cosmetic adjustments we've also made some fairly significant changes to the "classic" lineup of DU forums. The most important of these are:

General Discussion
We have separated the General Discussion forums in a new way which we hope will make it easier to find the type of discussions you're looking for. Instead of General Discussion and General Discussion: Presidential we now have General Discussion: Recommended Reading and General Discussion: Soapbox.

GD Recommended Reading is here: http://www.du3preview.com/?com=forum&id=1016
GD Soapbox is here: http://www.du3preview.com/?com=forum&id=1002

The old DU2 forum Editorials and Other Articles has been rolled into General Discussion: Recommended Reading and the purpose of this new forum is for cross-posting stories and articles found elsewhere on the Web. In this regard the forum is something of a hybrid between the old Editorials and Other Articles forum and the General Discussion forum.

The new General Discussion: Soapbox forum is for posting your own thoughts and rants on politics, issues, and current events. Need to get something off your chest? Just saw a teabagger getting demolished on cable news? Presidential speech coming up at any minute? Post about it here.

DU Help & Meta-discussion
You may not have asked for it, but you're getting it anyway -- DU finally has a dedicated forum to talk about DU. Admit it, it's what half of you come here to talk about anyway.

DU Help & Meta discussion is here: http://www.du3preview.com/?com=forum&id=1240

As well as providing a space for meta-discussion, this forum is also intended as a place for newbies and DU veterans alike to ask questions about the site's features and functions and receive answers from those in the know, including the DU Administrators who will participate regularly in the DU Help & Meta-discussion forum to answer questions.

About this forum/group

Confused about the purpose of a specific forum or group? Unsure if your OP will be considered on- or off-topic? Every forum and group now features an "About" page which you can get to by clicking the "About this forum" or "About this group" buttons which appear in the bar with the large blue "Post a thread..." button near the top of the page.

These pages describe the exact purpose of the forum or group along with a wealth of other information and statistics. Note that the forum and group descriptions also appear on the main Forums & Groups page.

My Subscriptions

One of the other major upgrades that's been implemented since the last preview is the My Subscriptions page. You can visit your My Subscriptions page by clicking the My Subscriptions tab at the top of any DU3 page.

The My Subscriptions page currently lists the most recent threads from every group that you have subscribed to (in future versions you'll be able to subscribe to other DU members and keyword tags). Essentially it creates a customized Latest page that only shows you threads from the groups you're interested in. We believe that this will help to make the groups much more active.

Note that you can only subscribe to GROUPS, not to FORUMS. This is because the content in those forums moves so fast that it would quickly flood your My Subscriptions page and make it redundant with the Latest page.

You can subscribe to any group by visiting the group and clicking the "Subscribe to this group" button found next to the large blue "Post a thread..." button near the top of the page.

Once you click that button, the group will be added to your My Subscriptions page. (The button will then change to read "Unsubscribe from this group" in case you subsequently want to unsubscribe.)

As well as appearing on the My Subscriptions page, groups that you are subscribing to will appear in the main site navigation in the left-hand column of every page, as well as on your Forums & Groups page.

Group organization

All group listings have been updated and are now categorized, and groups are assigned to both primary and secondary categories. For example, the "LGBT Civil Rights and Activism" group is assigned to the "Gender & Orientation" category, and also to the "Activism" category. Categories can be found on the Forums & Groups page. (If you think we put your favorite group in the wrong categories, please let us know.)

Navigation improvements

Layout memory
If you view the Forums & Groups page in Browse mode, you'll notice that each of the top-level sections can be expanded and collapsed so you can view the page the way you want it. The software will now remember how you organized the page so you won't have to change it every time.

The main site navigation in the left-hand column of every page has also been programmed to work this way. You can expand or collapse each of the top-level sections and the software will remember how you last left it.

User functions
In order to reduce clutter, the functions that appear next to members' usernames on their posts are now hidden by default, but can be toggled on or off by clicking the username. (This includes the member's post count.)

Self-delete function

You can now self-delete any of your own posts at any time, whether they are an OP or a reply. If an OP is self-deleted, all the replies will remain intact but the thread will be automatically locked with an explanation. Self-delete also completely deletes a post's edit history. Look for the "Self-delete" link in the bottom-right corner of any of your posts (don't worry -- if you click the link, you'll be taken to a confirmation page before the post is deleted).

Automatic mobile device detection and "Preferred format"

The software will now recognize if you are visiting the site from a mobile device, and if so will automatically display the site in Mobile format. If you want to override this setting, you can change your "Preferred format for mobile devices" in the Preferences section of your My Account page. You can also set your "Preferred format for regular web browsers" -- so whether you're visiting DU on a mobile device or from a regular web browser, you can set your default view to Standard, Wide, or Mobile formats. The choice is yours.

--Updated Feb 16 2011--

Avatars and signature lines

Avatars and signature lines are now available and can be selected and edited from your My Profile page. Just click the My Profile link which can be found at the top right of every page. (Please note that it is not possible to upload your own avatar just yet, but that functionality will be included in the final version.)

Emoticons

Emoticons are now working on DU3 Preview -- and we've added some new ones. For a full list of emoticons and their codes, click here. (Please note that the list of emoticons currently opens on a new page and you will have to hit "Back" to return to your post -- the emoticons list will be better integrated in the final version of the software.)

Wide format

There is now a Wide format version of DU3, which removes the left-hand navigation bar on many pages and stretches the site layout to fit the full width of your monitor. The Wide format is a little closer to the original DU layout. You can change formats at any time from the Preferences section of your My Account page. Just click the My Account link which can be found at the top right of every page.

Mobile format

For smartphone users there is now a Mobile format available. This is a radically different format which is optimized for smartphones and other mobile devices -- but you can still use Mobile format in your computer's web browser if you like. You can select Mobile format at any time from the Preferences section of your My Account page. Just click the My Account link which can be found at the top right of every page. (Please note that while Mobile format is currently working, it's not fully functional yet. In particular, we have not yet programmed functionality to automatically detect when you are visiting from a mobile device -- for now, you must manually choose the Mobile mobile version from your My Account page.)

My Posts

My Posts is now available -- just click the My Posts tab at the top of any page. The new DU3 My Posts page is different from the old DU version. Here are the main changes:

* The new "Replies to me" column lists the exact number of direct replies to your post.
* If there are replies, you can click the little arrow to show the title and poster of the replies, right there on the My Posts page.
* When there are new replies, the arrow turns yellow. (Click the "Mark as read" button to reset icons to white.)
* Posts now kick to the top of the page when there are new replies, just like in a regular forum.
* The page can be sorted either by the time that you posted, or by the time that someone replies.
* We no longer have a 48 hour time limit on the My Posts page. The new time limit is... infinity!

--Updated Jan 20 2011--

Under the hood

DU3 has been built from scratch by the DU administrators, with a great deal of attention paid to every detail and every aspect of the user experience. Our emphasis has been on perfecting the core functionality of the Democratic Underground discussion forum.

The software has been programmed using fully standards-compliant HTML and CSS code, so your web browser won't get slowed down by errors. The site layout is now handled entirely by CSS so pages will load faster.

DU3 also takes advantage of today's modern web browsers, allowing us to provide functionality that does not exist in the old software.

Navigation

User-friendly tabs give quick and easy access to the most important pages of the site. The tabs indicate if you are on that page.

New left-column navigation gives you instant access to all of the forums and groups on the website.

Page numbers have increased in size to make them easy to read and easy to click, and pagination shows "Prev" and "Next" links.

The Latest page

The Latest page can now be sorted and filtered in various ways. As well as the default Latest Threads view, you can now sort by Most Discussed, Most Viewed, and Most Replied.

You can filter the Latest page to show all forums and groups, just the main forums, just the topic forums, just the groups, and a number of other different ways. (Note that this feature does not currently remember your preference, but that functionality will be included in the final version.)

There is now an RSS feed for the Latest page. (In fact, there are now individual RSS feeds for EVERY forum and group.)

The Lobby (now "Forums and Groups" )

The Lobby is now known as "Forums and Groups." There are two ways to view this page: Browse Mode and Show All Mode.

Forums and groups are listed together by topic, which makes it easier to find similar forums and groups that might interest you.

Browse Mode displays the total all-time number of messages posted in each forum or group, as well as the total number of messages posted in each forum or group during the past 30 days. Browse Mode also displays the title of the most recent thread posted in each forum or group.

Forums and threads

Forums now show the start time and time of last reply for each thread without having to click an extra link.

The "mark" function has been improved. The traditional method of marking a forum (after marking, new posts are displayed with yellow icons) has been retained, but you now have the option to highlight the 10 newest replies to each thread instead. If you choose this alternative, then whenever you view a thread then only the 10 most recent replies will be displayed with yellow icons.

A large "Reply to this thread" button now appears at both the top and bottom of each thread.

The "Thread info" button gives you useful information about each thread.

Replies to threads are now slightly indented making it much easier to see who is replying to whom. In addition, the top right corner of each post now displays the username of the person being replied to as well as the post number, again making it easier to see who is replying to whom.

The number of views that a thread has received is now displayed in-thread.

Single-post mode clearly shows the title of the thread at the top of the page, and a link to the Original Post.

Every post shows a link to its location in-thread, and also a "permalink" to see the post by itself.

Posting

The new Post page features a wide input area for writing your message subject -- no more side-scrolling.

When you preview your post, it actually looks like your post -- same font, same formatting, same everything.

You now have unlimited time to edit your posts (previously there was a one hour edit window after which posts could not be edited). Each post has a public edit history which displays all the edits that have been made.

User registration and log-in functions

Although user registration is currently turned off during this preview period, the user registration and log-in functions on DU3 are much more robust. You can select the password you want at the moment you create your account, rather than having one assigned by the software and then changing it later. You can easily retrieve your username, password, or both if you have access to your email address. A security question feature has been added.

Other functions

You can now send an alert without leaving a thread. The "Alert abuse" link will allow you to send an alert directly from any post.

You can easily edit your profile information without leaving your profile page.

The software sets a maximum screen width which makes it easier to read on very wide screens.

Much shorter URLs make it easier to link to pages.

The software sets a relative time for visitors who are not logged in (for example, "Last reply: 4 hours ago" ) and the exact time if you are logged in (for example, "Last reply: 9:30 AM" ).

Contextual buttons change depending on which page you are viewing. You don't see the same icons on every page any more.

Missing features (don't worry, they're coming back)

Right-column Latest Breaking News feed on Latest page
Journals
Polls
Account management
Bookmarks
Full profiles including post count
DU Mail/Inbox
"My Forums" (this will return under the umbrella of "My Subscriptions" which we will talk about at a later date)
Advanced search function
Ignore
Spellcheck
Printer-friendly pages

While these features are not currently implemented in this preview version of DU3, we expect all of them to be present in the final version.

Also note: the list of forums and groups on DU3 is not completely identical to the list of forums and groups on DU. This will be fixed in the final version.

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109 replies	Author	Time	Post
What's new at DU! (updated Dec 6 2011) (Original post)	EarlG	Apr 2011	OP
Missing feature	Tx4obama	Apr 2011	#1
Yes!	Skinner	Apr 2011	#2
Hi Skinner, I have a question related to the embedding of vids...	Turborama	Apr 2011	#23
I like that idea, and love the indented "reply" threads!	grahamhgreen	Apr 2011	#52
cool-o, man	Kali	Apr 2011	#3
who moved my muthafuckin' cheese?	Schema Thing	Apr 2011	#4
Is this an obscure Ween reference?	AlecBGreen	May 2011	#99
This looks awsome	ornotna	Apr 2011	#5
Toto, I have a feeling we're not in Kansas anymore...	Divine Discontent	Apr 2011	#6
Love the edit time / edit history change.	pinto	Apr 2011	#7
What The???	NYC_SKP	Apr 2011	#8
EarlG	MrMickeysMom	Apr 2011	#9
Seems to be east coast time	NV Whino	Apr 2011	#10
Regarding: 'Each post has a public edit history which displays all the edits that have been made'	Tx4obama	Apr 2011	#11
no worries Tex,	NMDemDist2	Apr 2011	#12
i do agree with you, but for different reasons	rpannier	Apr 2011	#24
I strongly agree, it will allow us to be more civil to keep it the way it is.	grahamhgreen	Apr 2011	#53
reply to agree	Kali	Apr 2011	#76
This is actually a really good point.	woo me with science	May 2011	#97
I'm not sure I like it either.	Renew Deal	Apr 2011	#42
I think we have all done that. I'd vote for the self-delete feature, but not sure about	hlthe2b	May 2011	#98
I'm in agreement - would like my errors to remain hidden.	Matilda	Apr 2011	#60
Maybe distinguish between editing to correct typos & syntax, and editing to change the tone?	Wednesdays	Apr 2011	#66
Not just potentially embarrassing, but it could also clutter up replies/threads terribly.	Wednesdays	Apr 2011	#67
I make a lot of mistakes, too, & don't like my edit history shown, either.	pacalo	Dec 2011	#106
Why does my icon look like a nipple?	L0oniX	Apr 2011	#13
Looks like Sorry marker to me	SoCalDem	Apr 2011	#30
That's what that is! I knew it reminded me of something... :D	Rhiannon12866	Apr 2011	#65
Wow	MilesColtrane	Apr 2011	#14
Cool.	Lucian	Apr 2011	#15
Will we be able to search our journals?	intheflow	Apr 2011	#16
I love everything I'm seeing so far but a special thank you for changing the edit time.	Catherina	Apr 2011	#17
Are recommendations gone completely?	starroute	Apr 2011	#18
This is great! I love the all the filters. Thank you, thank you! n/t	Catherina	Apr 2011	#19
This looks nice	struggle4progress	Apr 2011	#20
Well now what I've played a bit....	Tx4obama	Apr 2011	#21
Not bad	rpannier	Apr 2011	#22
Regarding the individual comments	Tx4obama	Apr 2011	#25
You've obviously put a lot of thought into this, but there are still some rough edges.	Electric Monk	Apr 2011	#26
I found that, too...it makes the OP a bit hard to read. nt	cry baby	Apr 2011	#44
I found a BUG	Tx4obama	Apr 2011	#27
I was just going to post that exact bug	Occulus	Apr 2011	#28
Thanks	EarlG	Apr 2011	#49
This is really nice forum software - but no Rec/Unrec? (Just kidding)	csziggy	Apr 2011	#29
Amazing...	rasputin1952	Apr 2011	#31
Impressive. Most impressive.	Laelth	Apr 2011	#32
more proof that DU is awsome!	ladyVet	Apr 2011	#33
Thank you for all of your hard work and dedication.	myrna minx	Apr 2011	#34
Looking good... but where the hell are the over-sized fonts, rounded corners and unneeded AJAX stuf?	xor	Apr 2011	#35
We wanted them...	EarlG	Apr 2011	#48
...	woo me with science	May 2011	#101
Love the navigation on the left side...	Auggie	Apr 2011	#36
Love it - lean and mean.	wtmusic	Apr 2011	#37
This is very cool n/t	Irishonly	Apr 2011	#38
It's lopsided on my small screen...	hunter	Apr 2011	#39
Yeah that lefthand navigation causes a lot of whitespace. n/t	targetpractice	Apr 2011	#58
I really like this - but I have a request	Coyote_Bandit	Apr 2011	#40
Thanks for the suggestions	EarlG	Apr 2011	#47
Will it be possible to "follow" certain posters - not to stalk - but there are some posters, I like	chimpymustgo	Apr 2011	#56
+1	grahamhgreen	Apr 2011	#82
Ditto	TahitiNut	Apr 2011	#91
Great!	Coyote_Bandit	Apr 2011	#59
Hey, this place looks great.	Renew Deal	Apr 2011	#41
Happy Birthday #10!! Thank you David, Dave, and Brian!	cry baby	Apr 2011	#43
Nice work! nt	rrneck	Apr 2011	#45
This is very nice!!! Excellent job!!! n/t	RKP5637	Apr 2011	#46
Wow, guys! Tres cool!	TygrBright	Apr 2011	#50
It'll probably have similar content to what we have on "old" DU.	Skinner	Apr 2011	#73
Very happy with the new setup...	Dappleganger	Apr 2011	#51
I couldn't have said it better...	Rhiannon12866	Apr 2011	#63
Great! Have you thought about adding Twitter, Facebook, Stumbleupon, Digg, Delicious, etc, buttons?	grahamhgreen	Apr 2011	#54
I swear I remember this existing at one point.	intheflow	Apr 2011	#62
+1	snot	Apr 2011	#69
How bout a DU button on other sites, so you could "DU" something, similar to facebook "Like"?	grahamhgreen	Apr 2011	#81
+1	snot	Apr 2011	#70
Testing, testing, 1, 2, 3	PeaceNikki	Apr 2011	#55
Yes, users will be able to see more than 48 hours of posts. (nt)	Skinner	Apr 2011	#74
This preview looks marvelous on my DROID	LVT	Apr 2011	#57
EVERYONE	Kurovski	Apr 2011	#61
Love the indented replies	Celtic Raven	Apr 2011	#64
Looks great!	snot	Apr 2011	#68
I like it...	cynatnite	Apr 2011	#71
Unfortunately, it's going to take a while.	Skinner	Apr 2011	#75
I'm going to need to sleep this off nt	WheelWalker	Apr 2011	#72
We need BBcode formatting buttons!!! PLEASE!!!	Odin2005	Apr 2011	#77
We hope to include that in the final version (nt)	EarlG	Apr 2011	#84
What Will Happen To Our Current Journals?	freshwest	Apr 2011	#78
We are not going to delete the content that is in your journals.	Skinner	Apr 2011	#83
Thanks for the reply	freshwest	Apr 2011	#87
That's great to hear.	intheflow	Apr 2011	#88
How about a Mobile Version?	sellitman	Apr 2011	#79
There will be a mobile version. (nt)	Skinner	Apr 2011	#80
I have a dumb phone	d_r	Apr 2011	#85
Yeaahhhh! An App. Just what I've been wishing for!	northoftheborder	Apr 2011	#89
I like it	d_r	Apr 2011	#86
Will we still have to type in HTML tags?	nxylas	Apr 2011	#90
Is there a place to report bugs?	Control-Z	Apr 2011	#92
This should be fixed n/t	Elad	Apr 2011	#94
Deleted message	Elad	Apr 2011	#93
Okay, what rule did you break?	Make7	Apr 2011	#95
I'm new on DU.	Tripod	Apr 2011	#96
cool cool cool	tomm2thumbs	May 2011	#100
It is marvelous.	woo me with science	May 2011	#102
Just a thought on CSS... Line Height seems a bit cramped, at least for these old eyes. :) - n/t	Zenlitened	May 2011	#103
Excellent upgrades	louslobbs	May 2011	#104
I look forward to the changes.	Terra Alta	Dec 2011	#105
Will enjoy "self-delete" and mobile feature	realFedUp	Dec 2011	#107
Continuous journal	realFedUp	Dec 2011	#108
How do you hide a thread?	bigwillq	Dec 2011	#109

What's new at DU! (updated Dec 6 2011)

1. Missing feature

2. Yes!

23. Hi Skinner, I have a question related to the embedding of vids...

52. I like that idea, and love the indented "reply" threads!

3. cool-o, man

4. who moved my muthafuckin' cheese?

99. Is this an obscure Ween reference?

5. This looks awsome

6. Toto, I have a feeling we're not in Kansas anymore...

7. Love the edit time / edit history change.

8. What The???

9. EarlG

10. Seems to be east coast time

11. Regarding: 'Each post has a public edit history which displays all the edits that have been made'

12. no worries Tex,

24. i do agree with you, but for different reasons

53. I strongly agree, it will allow us to be more civil to keep it the way it is.

76. reply to agree

97. This is actually a really good point.

42. I'm not sure I like it either.

98. I think we have all done that. I'd vote for the self-delete feature, but not sure about

60. I'm in agreement - would like my errors to remain hidden.

66. Maybe distinguish between editing to correct typos & syntax, and editing to change the tone?

67. Not just potentially embarrassing, but it could also clutter up replies/threads terribly.

106. I make a lot of mistakes, too, & don't like my edit history shown, either.

13. Why does my icon look like a nipple?

30. Looks like Sorry marker to me

65. That's what that is! I knew it reminded me of something... :D

14. Wow

15. Cool.

16. Will we be able to search our journals?

17. I love everything I'm seeing so far but a special thank you for changing the edit time.

18. Are recommendations gone completely?

19. This is great! I love the all the filters. Thank you, thank you! n/t

20. This looks nice

21. Well now what I've played a bit....

22. Not bad

25. Regarding the individual comments

26. You've obviously put a lot of thought into this, but there are still some rough edges.

44. I found that, too...it makes the OP a bit hard to read. nt

27. I found a BUG

28. I was just going to post that exact bug

49. Thanks

29. This is really nice forum software - but no Rec/Unrec? (Just kidding)

31. Amazing...

32. Impressive. Most impressive.

33. more proof that DU is awsome!

34. Thank you for all of your hard work and dedication.

35. Looking good... but where the hell are the over-sized fonts, rounded corners and unneeded AJAX stuf?

48. We wanted them...

101. ...

36. Love the navigation on the left side...

37. Love it - lean and mean.

38. This is very cool n/t

39. It's lopsided on my small screen...

58. Yeah that lefthand navigation causes a lot of whitespace. n/t

40. I really like this - but I have a request

47. Thanks for the suggestions

56. Will it be possible to "follow" certain posters - not to stalk - but there are some posters, I like

82. +1

91. Ditto

59. Great!

41. Hey, this place looks great.

43. Happy Birthday #10!! Thank you David, Dave, and Brian!

45. Nice work! nt

46. This is very nice!!! Excellent job!!! n/t

50. Wow, guys! Tres cool!

73. It'll probably have similar content to what we have on "old" DU.

51. Very happy with the new setup...

63. I couldn't have said it better...

54. Great! Have you thought about adding Twitter, Facebook, Stumbleupon, Digg, Delicious, etc, buttons?

62. I swear I remember this existing at one point.

69. +1

81. How bout a DU button on other sites, so you could "DU" something, similar to facebook "Like"?

70. +1

55. Testing, testing, 1, 2, 3

74. Yes, users will be able to see more than 48 hours of posts. (nt)

57. This preview looks marvelous on my DROID

61. EVERYONE