Sat Jul 21, 2012, 10:46 AM
kpete (38,900 posts)
HELL YES: Boston Mayor to Chick-fil-A: "You can't have a business in the city of Boston."Last edited Sat Jul 21, 2012, 10:47 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1)
Mayor Menino on Chick-fil-A: Stuff it
Vows to block eatery over anti-gay attitude By Greg Turner Friday, July 20, 2012 - Mayor Thomas M. Menino is vowing to block Chick-fil-A from bringing its Southern-fried fast-food empire to Boston — possibly to a popular tourist spot just steps from the Freedom Trail — after the family-owned firm’s president suggested gay marriage is “inviting God’s judgment on our nation.” “Chick-fil-A doesn’t belong in Boston. You can’t have a business in the city of Boston that discriminates against a population. We’re an open city, we’re a city that’s at the forefront of inclusion,” Menino told the Herald yesterday. “That’s the Freedom Trail. That’s where it all started right here. And we’re not going to have a company, Chick-fil-A or whatever the hell the name is, on our Freedom Trail.” http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view.bg?articleid=1061147182&srvc=home&position=emailed http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/07/21/1112266/-HELL-YES-Boston-Mayor-to-Chick-fil-A-You-can-t-have-a-business-in-the-city-of-Boston
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| kpete | Jul 2012 | OP | |
| rfranklin | Jul 2012 | #1 | |
| Gormy Cuss | Jul 2012 | #3 | |
| Lex | Jul 2012 | #8 | |
| a2liberal | Jul 2012 | #67 | |
| Mimosa | Jul 2012 | #9 | |
| nxylas | Jul 2012 | #20 | |
| joeybee12 | Jul 2012 | #46 | |
| slampoet | Jul 2012 | #48 | |
| jehop61 | Jul 2012 | #26 | |
| alp227 | Jul 2012 | #39 | |
| Bette Noir | Jul 2012 | #69 | |
| mzteris | Jul 2012 | #2 | |
| hootinholler | Jul 2012 | #4 | |
| eppur_se_muova | Jul 2012 | #42 | |
| 66 dmhlt | Jul 2012 | #74 | |
| Tsiyu | Jul 2012 | #5 | |
| beac | Jul 2012 | #6 | |
| findrskeep | Jul 2012 | #7 | |
| Bluerthanblue | Jul 2012 | #10 | |
| HopeHoops | Jul 2012 | #11 | |
| southernyankeebelle | Jul 2012 | #12 | |
| bluedigger | Jul 2012 | #13 | |
| graywarrior | Jul 2012 | #14 | |
| liberal from boston | Jul 2012 | #19 | |
| loudsue | Jul 2012 | #15 | |
| Ilsa | Jul 2012 | #60 | |
| lonestarnot | Jul 2012 | #16 | |
| Lint Head | Jul 2012 | #17 | |
| Irishonly | Jul 2012 | #18 | |
| MADem | Jul 2012 | #23 | |
| Irishonly | Jul 2012 | #43 | |
| lunatica | Jul 2012 | #21 | |
| MADem | Jul 2012 | #22 | |
| naturallyselected | Jul 2012 | #49 | |
| DFW | Jul 2012 | #24 | |
| dickthegrouch | Jul 2012 | #27 | |
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| Ruby the Liberal | Jul 2012 | #58 | |
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 10:54 AM
rfranklin (13,200 posts)
1. I don't think this will fly...hasn't the head of the company said they will serve anyone?
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His personal views are irrelevant...though I would personally shun his business based on knowing his views.
Isn't this somewhat along the lines of pharmacists injecting their personal beliefs into how they dispense medications? |
Response to rfranklin (Reply #1)
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 11:06 AM
Gormy Cuss (26,682 posts)
3. His personal views would be irrelevant in a publicly traded corporation
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but if this is a closed, family-run business then his comments as COO or CEO are relevant to the licensing or permitting. What Menino's statement does is force the company to go on record stating that the restaurants don't discriminate and serves as a message that the company had better live up to that statement.
Chick-Fil-A is expanding into the San Francisco bay area and being met with similar opposition. |
Response to rfranklin (Reply #1)
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 11:39 AM
Lex (32,247 posts)
8. His personal views are relevant when he makes them so
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by making them public. What if he were a proud member of the KKK and said so publicly?
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Response to Lex (Reply #8)
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 11:55 PM
a2liberal (996 posts)
67. So what if he did?
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Do you think his business should be banned from a city if he were a member of the KKK? As long as the business doesn't discriminate, it's free speech and banning his business for his personal views is limiting his free speech.
What if a city in a heavily RW area didn't like the fact that you're an outspoken liberal? Should they be allowed to ban your business for that? |
Response to rfranklin (Reply #1)
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 11:40 AM
Mimosa (9,115 posts)
9. YES. Exactly.
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Some cities won't allow Wal-Marts to open. That has something to do with the size of stores and effects on competitors.
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Response to Mimosa (Reply #9)
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 12:18 PM
nxylas (4,697 posts)
20. But this is purely to do with the CEO's personal views
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I think if individuals want to boycott Chick-Fil-A, then that's fine, but a government official trying to drive them out of a city based on something the CEO said makes me uncomfortable. It seems to push at the boundaries of the First Amendment. Of course, if the company actually refuses to serve or to employ people based on their sexual orientation, then that's a different matter, since it would fall foul of anti-discrimination laws, provided that sexual orientation is a protected class in MA (it isn't in all states).
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Response to nxylas (Reply #20)
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 03:10 PM
joeybee12 (41,681 posts)
46. He's not trying to drive them out since they're not there yet...
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He's letting them know they wouldn't be welcome there.
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Response to nxylas (Reply #20)
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 04:47 PM
slampoet (5,032 posts)
48. Chick fil a has been sued at least 12 times for job discrimination.
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Last edited Sat Jul 21, 2012, 04:48 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) This has nothing to do with the views but instead illegal actions that this corporation pays out of court to hush up. Also when is the last time you heard of 17 job interviews to get a job?
This corporation makes sure that only their kind of people get hired and that is UnAmerican. http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2007/0723/080.html Oh and this is right-wing pro-biz FORBES magazine saying this. |
Response to rfranklin (Reply #1)
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 12:41 PM
jehop61 (320 posts)
26. I so agree
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this issue should stay out of politics. Let the consumers decide how they want to treat this cretin's fast food shop. The mayor is grandstanding. P.S. I'll never eat there again.
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Response to rfranklin (Reply #1)
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 01:38 PM
alp227 (20,488 posts)
39. A-HA! Menino would have made a STRONGER argument
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by also calling out how CFA uses FACTORY FARMED chicken.
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Response to alp227 (Reply #39)
Sun Jul 22, 2012, 12:27 AM
Bette Noir (3,422 posts)
69. Name me a low-priced restaurant that doesn't.
Response to kpete (Original post)
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 11:03 AM
mzteris (15,980 posts)
2. They may serve you
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but they certainly won't hire you.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 11:07 AM
hootinholler (20,647 posts)
4. We need some rainbow chickens
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To parade outside of chick-fil-a stores with Cows are homophobes signs.
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Response to hootinholler (Reply #4)
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 02:43 PM
eppur_se_muova (20,763 posts)
42. COWS -- rainbow cows.
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Chick-fil-A uses B/W cows in their ads. Rainbow-spotted cows would connect immediately with most people.
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Response to eppur_se_muova (Reply #42)
Sun Jul 22, 2012, 08:05 AM
66 dmhlt (1,297 posts)
74. "Would you like a side order of Homophobia with your Chick-fil-A?"
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 11:11 AM
Tsiyu (15,455 posts)
5. The owners of Chik-Fil-A are assholes
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trust me on that one. The thing that people refuse to get is that our power rests in not giving these assholes our money. I love Chik-Fil-A sammiches, don't get me wrong, but I don't give them any of my money anymore. Kudos to the Boston mayor, and to everyone bright enough to realize your power is in your pocketbook. |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 11:35 AM
beac (9,340 posts)
6. Nice to see someone standing up to Chik-fil-hAte.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 11:38 AM
findrskeep (533 posts)
7. Way to go Mayor Menino!!
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The openness is why this southern transplant is proud to call MA her home state!
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 11:43 AM
Bluerthanblue (13,668 posts)
10. good for Mayor Menino
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for exposing the hatred and bigotry.
I don't think he can stop them, but he's clearly outing them for what they are. |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 11:45 AM
HopeHoops (47,675 posts)
11. Good for him.
Response to kpete (Original post)
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 11:46 AM
southernyankeebelle (10,725 posts)
12. I have heard of this business but have never been. Now I know I will NEVER go.
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Just like I will never go again to FL, AZ, AK or even TX because the leaders seem to hate liberals so much. So why would I go to a place and spend my money in those states.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 11:50 AM
bluedigger (10,579 posts)
13. Hear, hear!
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 12:05 PM
graywarrior (57,074 posts)
14. Go, Mumbles!
Response to graywarrior (Reply #14)
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 12:14 PM
liberal from boston (218 posts)
19. So Proud of My Mayor
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Mayor Menino Rocks!!!
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 12:07 PM
loudsue (12,383 posts)
15. Chick-fil-A is a fundie-owned joint. They're not open on Sunday....only fast food restaurant that
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isn't, to my knowledge.
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Response to loudsue (Reply #15)
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 08:32 PM
Ilsa (31,695 posts)
60. I don't mind that they aren't open
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every day. I think it's fine to give employees a day off, no matter what the reason is. I just don't like them spreading their vile propaganda.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 12:09 PM
lonestarnot (71,135 posts)
16. And the boy sprouts?
Response to kpete (Original post)
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 12:11 PM
Lint Head (10,442 posts)
17. Yes!!!!
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I so glad to see this happen.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 12:14 PM
Irishonly (3,337 posts)
18. Good for Menino n/t
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Last edited Sat Jul 21, 2012, 02:44 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) Edited because I cannot read nor type
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Response to Irishonly (Reply #18)
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 12:31 PM
MADem (86,116 posts)
23. Hee hee--you sound like dear old Mumbles!
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"Merino" is the wool..."Menino" is Hizzonah!!
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Response to MADem (Reply #23)
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 02:44 PM
Irishonly (3,337 posts)
43. LOL- can't read nor type
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Guess I should edit
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 12:19 PM
lunatica (28,852 posts)
21. Good for the Mayor!
Response to kpete (Original post)
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 12:30 PM
MADem (86,116 posts)
22. What's not to love about Mayor Menino? They may call him "Mumbles" but we heard him loud and clear
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now, didn't we?
There's only one of those outlets in MA that I know of, in a suburban mall in a food court with a limited menu. I looked it up awhile back, but never went to check it out. What's ironic is that I've only eaten at one of those places a few times, every time way down south, and it was a gay family friend who took us there--he gave us the scoop on the place while we were eating, but he said he had a weakness for the chicken. It certainly was an interesting experience, I must say. We went to the politically incorrect "Dwarf House" (and there was a little person behind the counter--not sure if that was just a coincidence or what) and had a large sampling from the menu. The staff were very accommodating and friendly. it was a bit of a surprise to learn about how hateful the organization was. Their business model would be swell if they'd just get rid of all that hate and exclusion, pay their employees a bit better, and maybe open on Sundays, too. |
Response to MADem (Reply #22)
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 04:55 PM
naturallyselected (37 posts)
49. Three around Boston
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There are 3 Chick-Fil-As in the Boston area - Peabody, Burlington, and Nashua, NH. I live in Maine, and as unpopular as this will make me here, I enjoy the chicken and in fact went to one just a week ago on a trip to Fenway.
I think their politics are repulsive. I thin their Sunday closing is stupid, and a political statement much more than a way to "give their employees the ability to celebrate the Sabbath". But I am also a small business owner, and am not profitable enough to turn away customers because they don't agree with my progressive politics. So I keep my views to myself, do just as good work for the Republican pigs that buy my services as fellow Progressives. Do I really want to turn business down because of the political beliefs of customers? I guess I should have never visited my father either, when he was alive, because he was staunchly Republican. There are gay Chick-Fil-A managers and employees, and none of the restaurants ask for a certificate of heterosexuality when you order their chicken. Everyone has the right to boycott them, and please do if you feel it's the right thing to do. But I have to ask myself two things. What corporations aren't offensive in some way? Papa John's owner holds fundraisers for Rmoney. The ownership of Country Inns and Suites are Dominionists. I'll bet a lot more businesses support the Republicans than the Democrats. The second question is: do I want to lose customers that hold different views than I do? Sorry - I'm not going to turn away their business. I don't ask their politics, I don't ask if they support marriage equality. Those folks that work at Chick Fil-A deserve to make a living - many think the beliefs of their company's owner are as abhorrent as I do. Gays can get married in Masachusetts - I think that's great. I hope we in Maine will right a wrong in November and achieve marriage equality here. Mayor Menino can and should point out the anti-gay beliefs of Chick Fil-A's owner. But should he try and stop them from opening a restaurant when there is no legal basis to do so? It's just not as black and white to me. A struggling tech writer like me needs anyone's business - I wouldn't like potential customers going to someone else because they found out I'm in favor of marriage equality. Sure, I can claim the moral high ground, but my kids need to eat. |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 12:34 PM
DFW (13,354 posts)
24. This is about the one thing Republicans worship and revere more than God
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And that's MONEY.
These people care what you do in your bedroom, but not at the dinner table. If you are willing to leave them your money as you devour their artery-clogging "food," it's fine with them. |
Response to DFW (Reply #24)
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 12:42 PM
dickthegrouch (1,230 posts)
27. GOD is just an acronym
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Gold
Oil Drugs Americans' obsession with god makes perfect sense when interpreted that way. |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 12:40 PM
dickthegrouch (1,230 posts)
25. Mountain View, CA is having second thoughts too
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Calling into question the environmental impact of another drive-through, since the biases of the owners aren't enough of a reason to stop them. Even if they weren't batshit stupid, the "quality" of the food would prevent me from ever going there again.
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Response to dickthegrouch (Reply #25)
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 01:04 PM
quaker bill (7,130 posts)
30. As an environmental scientist
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Last edited Sat Jul 21, 2012, 01:08 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) I have a concern when the environment is used as a stand in for other issues. I do not know the particulars here. However, here I have watched Wal-Marts challenged by groups for environmental concerns when the Home Depot and Target just down the street are doing all the same things environmentally without a peep. This happens enough and the general public stops taking environmental concerns seriously,
I know it is tough because "due process" protections generally do not allow local gov'ts to hold a Chic-fil-a to a different standard than a McDonalds or Burger King (or whatever). But my take is that it is better for political decisions to be made on political grounds. Of course developers really don't like that a bit. |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 12:48 PM
Beowulf (188 posts)
29. The university where I teach has one in the student union
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Some student groups have pointed out the disconnect between the student code of conduct and Chick-fil-A's corporate practices. But then the university where I teach is Penn State so moral inconsistency is common currency.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 01:05 PM
ellenfl (8,287 posts)
31. good for the mayor.
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i boycotted them years ago when i found out they were closed on sunday because of the fundamentalism of the owners. i try to not support zealots. i've been boycotting mickie d's, coors, amway and domino's pizza for many years for much the same reasons (the first three mostly for funding nixon).
on the assumption it's at issue, these biased businesses should not get tax breaks for moving into a community. ellen fl |
Response to ellenfl (Reply #31)
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Response to MikeCanadian (Reply #56)
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 07:41 PM
Kennah (6,746 posts)
57. Welcome to DU. Enjoy your short stay.
Response to Kennah (Reply #57)
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 07:59 PM
Ruby the Liberal (23,509 posts)
58. Too late.
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But that was a nice welcome.
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Response to Ruby the Liberal (Reply #58)
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 09:42 PM
Kennah (6,746 posts)
62. Darn you, Osama! Wait, I can't use that anymore, can I?
Response to kpete (Original post)
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 01:15 PM
Marooned (79 posts)
32. Judging from the comments section of the Herald the mayor's stance isn't very popular
Response to Marooned (Reply #32)
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 01:19 PM
Panasonic (2,921 posts)
33. Who cares what a right-wing rag comment says.
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If they don't get it, they never will.
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Response to Marooned (Reply #32)
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 03:14 PM
Marrah_G (22,446 posts)
47. The Herald is a RW paper
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They attract RW jerks like flies. Not representative of Boston or Massachusetts.
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Response to Marooned (Reply #32)
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 05:12 PM
Posteritatis (17,299 posts)
51. News article comments *always* lean pretty far right. (nt)
Response to Marooned (Reply #32)
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 05:14 PM
2ndAmForComputers (3,309 posts)
52. Come on, don't hide behind other people's opinions. What's yours?
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Oh, and welcome to DU and HAVE A NICE DAY!!!
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 01:21 PM
WorseBeforeBetter (7,663 posts)
34. LOL @ "or whatever the hell the name is."
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Last edited Sat Jul 21, 2012, 01:22 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) Perhaps the North Carolina woman who started the crusade against marriage equality will lead a boycott of Boston Markets. "We're not Massachusetts!," as one wingnut declared in a N&O LTTE.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 01:23 PM
piratefish08 (3,031 posts)
35. Chik-Fil-A are bigoted homophobes. I didn't eat their shitty food before, certainly won't now and
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hope they fail as a chain.
Suck a fart Chik FIl a. |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 01:25 PM
azurnoir (26,663 posts)
36. Good for Mayor Merino
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but watch chick-a-fil play martyr to "ultra-liberalism"
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 01:27 PM
Spitfire of ATJ (7,387 posts)
37. Who the hell wants to eat at this place anyway?
Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #37)
Sun Jul 22, 2012, 07:19 AM
Le Taz Hot (14,440 posts)
72. I'm sorry but that just
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looks nasty!
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 01:42 PM
sulphurdunn (3,501 posts)
40. No business or corporation
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has any inalienable right to open a business in any community. If the mayor and city council don't want a business in the community, so be it. If the electorate think otherwise, they are free to either persuade or replace their elected officials.
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Response to sulphurdunn (Reply #40)
Sun Jul 22, 2012, 03:12 AM
krispos42 (45,153 posts)
70. They do if they meet all applicable laws
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It's a business purchasing private property and building on it. If the building and property meets zoning and fire codes and all that good stuff, then I don't see the mayor having any power over whether the business can open or not.
While it's certainly advantageous to have the mayor on your side, it's not necessary. I don't want to give Boston's mayor this kind of power, the same way I don't want the mayor of Atlanta to decide whether or not an abortion clinic or a porn shop can open. |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 01:47 PM
geckosfeet (8,809 posts)
41. "we’re a city that’s at the forefront of inclusion"
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That's why he keeps winning re-election.
Kind of an ironic thing to say when you are excluding a business though. Not that I disagree with the mayor, just a little irony. |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 03:06 PM
Flatpicker (515 posts)
44. Even
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If they come into the city, they aren't getting one cent from me.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 03:09 PM
Marrah_G (22,446 posts)
45. Thank you Mayor Menino
Response to kpete (Original post)
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 05:02 PM
GoneOffShore (11,129 posts)
50. Lots of hate for him in the comment thread at the Boston Herald.
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And it looks like the haters have it all sewn up.
Unfortunately. Hope he manages to do it. |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 05:29 PM
appleannie1 (2,988 posts)
53. They don't have a restaurant in my area but I ate in one once when traveling. I was not impressed.
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I think Wendy's makes a better chicken sandwich. If they did open around here, I would not eat there. I have read that they contribute to anti gay movements and I detest bigots.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 05:34 PM
muntrv (8,364 posts)
54. Not only homophobic, but the chick-fil-a-holes are talibornagain.
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See the story of a Muslim employee getting discriminated against for not doing Christian prayer in article.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 05:53 PM
MikeCanadian (4 posts)
55. Fascist scumbags!
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If you don't have the same political views as us you can't open a restaurant here.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 08:30 PM
Ilsa (31,695 posts)
59. I'm doing everything possible
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to keep my kids out of Chik-Fil-A. I tell them it is a bad location, too crowded, too expensive, and they won't let them get their own drinks. When they get bigger, I'll explain more about why we don't do business with them.
Decades ago I tried eating their food, but it gave me cramps and diarrhea, I suspect from being too heavy with sodium. |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 08:45 PM
Dawson Leery (8,382 posts)
61. The Cathy family appear to be right wing "free marketers".
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Yet, they are willing to discriminate against gays. Legally speaking, this will not fly. Chick-Fil-A cannot legally discriminate.
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Response to Dawson Leery (Reply #61)
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 09:50 PM
SickOfTheOnePct (1,796 posts)
63. Not a fan of Chik-Fil-A
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And definitely not a fan of the views of the right wing owner, but how are they breaking the law? How are they legally discriminating?
It's reprehensible to hate someone because of their sexual orientation, but it isn't against the law. |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 10:20 PM
mountain grammy (1,603 posts)
64. It's not that Chick-fil-A won't serve gays, of course they will..
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It's the millions of dollars this and other companies donate to hate groups like the Family Research Center. These right wing hate groups are actively working against gay rights and companies give them the money to do it. Millions of tax free donations to the Mormon church went spread hate in California. These hate groups wouldn't exist without the massive donations of companies like Chick-fil-a. But they will take the money from anyone who comes through the door. They've never gotten a penny out of me.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 10:53 PM
tclambert (5,536 posts)
65. So when you get up to the counter, they ask you your sexual orientation?
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If you want some chicken, do you have to prove you like the opposite sex? And will they supply the girls to demonstrate on?
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 11:52 PM
Kalidurga (4,822 posts)
66. This business actually sounds more like a hate group than a restaurant...
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It seems the only reason that they exist is to generate money for far RW groups. They are openly intolerant and I think this is probably a bad business model.
They opened one of these at the Mall of America. These kinds of stories make me glad I don't eat meat anymore. It's not the kind of place I can go to anyway. |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Sun Jul 22, 2012, 03:22 AM
SunSeeker (5,038 posts)
71. No one can do justice to Chick-fil-A like these brilliant drag queens' music video...
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Sun Jul 22, 2012, 07:26 AM
RiffRandell (2,965 posts)
73. My husband told me this yesterday.
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Another reason to move back to New England.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Sun Jul 22, 2012, 10:39 AM
Mimosa (9,115 posts)
75. 'In Defense of Eating at Chik-Fil-A'
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Last edited Sun Jul 22, 2012, 10:41 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1) This commentary from The Atlantic was posted on another board. I agree with the author. http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/07/in-defense-of-eating-at-chick-fil-a/260139/# Excerpt: Additionally, the organization gives millions of dollars each year to charitable causes -- and not just to "pro-family" groups. It funds a large foster care program, several schools of a higher learning, and a children's camp. It has provided thousands of scholarships for Chick-fil-A employees to attend college and grow past the service sector where they got their workplace start. (On Friday, the company provided free meals for Aurora, Colo., policemen.)
And the company's leaders claim to do all of this out of convictions rooted in the Christian faith. Anyone who has even a cursory knowledge of the company should know that it does not hide its commitment to biblical values. Its corporate statement of purpose since 1982 has begun, "To glorify God..." Given this, that anyone was surprised by Cathy's statements is, well, surprising. Like many conservative Christians, he does not support gay marriage. I'm flummoxed that so many consumers are so quick these days to call for boycotts of any company that deviates from their personal or political views. For one thing, boycotts rarely cause actual pocketbook - rather than PR -- damage. Most consumers don't care enough to drive an extra mile to get the same product from someone else. And that's especially the case for companies as large as Chick-fil-A, which has prime locations on many college campuses where there is little head-to-head competition. But my bigger question is this: In a nation that's as divided as ours is, do we really want our commercial lives and our political lives to be so wholly intermeshed? And is this really the kind of culture we want to create? Culture war boycotts cut both ways and are much more likely to meet with success when prosecuted by large groups of people, such as Christian activists, who are more numerous than gays and lesbians and their more activist supporters. |
Response to Mimosa (Reply #75)
Sun Jul 22, 2012, 08:09 PM
GoneOffShore (11,129 posts)
76. Nicely reasoned article - But I don't agree.
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No matter what Chick Fil A does to support other charitable causes does not give them a pass on their bigotry.
And they use those causes to proselytize and bring more folks into "the fold" of fundamentalist bigotry and homophobia. |

