Fri Jul 20, 2012, 04:21 PM

ProSense (98,171 posts)

Expired Assault Weapons Ban Would Have Covered Rifle Used In Colorado Shooting

Expired Assault Weapons Ban Would Have Covered Rifle Used In Colorado Shooting

By Zack Beauchamp

One of the principal weapons used by James Eagan Holmes in the horrific Dark Knight Rises shooting would have been subject to a series of sharp restrictions under the now-expired federal Assault Weapons ban. The AR-15 rife carried by Holmes, a civilian semi-automatic version of the military M-16, would have been defined as a “semiautomatic assault weapon” under the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994. If the law was still in force, semiautomatic assault weapons would have been outright banned:

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UPDATE

Holmes’ guns, including his AR-15, were all legally purchased since May from two national chains, Bass Pro Shops and Gander Mountain Guns.

UPDATE

Purportedly, the AR-15 used by Holmes had a high-capacity clip, which were banned as “large capacity ammunition feeding devices” in the 1994 legislation.

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/07/20/557811/expired-assault-weapons-ban-would-have-covered-rifle-used-in-colorado-shooting/

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Expired Assault Weapons Ban Would Have Covered Rifle Used In Colorado Shooting (Original post)	ProSense	Jul 2012	OP
high-capacity 'clips' (magazines) were not 'banned', you could always buy them...	PoliticAverse	Jul 2012	#1
From the	ProSense	Jul 2012	#2
they weren't sold illegally	belcffub	Jul 2012	#4
Thanks for pointing that out. n/t	ProSense	Jul 2012	#11
In fact, that wasn't even the extent of the truth.	AtheistCrusader	Jul 2012	#201
It was perfectly legal to sell high-capacity magazines that were manufactured before the 'ban'...	PoliticAverse	Jul 2012	#7
and that is a key point	HankyDub	Jul 2012	#59
Rachel Madow made the same mistakes when reporting on the AWB...	aikoaiko	Jul 2012	#108
Yep, gun manufacturers and those coveting such guns took advantage of the "loopholes". Sounds like	Hoyt	Jul 2012	#138
It was a stupid law and manufacturers complied with the stupidity.	aikoaiko	Jul 2012	#158
It's also worth pointing out that the AR-15 was never banned.	sofa king	Jul 2012	#117
The legal/illegal versions	michreject	Jul 2012	#191
Thus illustrating just how idiotic the AWB really was.	Johnny Rico	Jul 2012	#193
The mag on the illegal one would be illegal	michreject	Jul 2012	#196
Do they make them in 6.8 SPC?	Johnny Rico	Jul 2012	#197
No	michreject	Jul 2012	#203
Aw.	Johnny Rico	Jul 2012	#207
Good reason to buy one in 5.56	michreject	Jul 2012	#208
Right. This entire original post is simply incorrect. nt	naaman fletcher	Jul 2012	#194
The headline, at least, is simply incorrect.	sofa king	Jul 2012	#195
new	rks306	Jul 2012	#186
What in the world is a "multi-clip"?	Johnny Rico	Jul 2012	#187
It's the new gun control buzz word.	permatex	Jul 2012	#210
If you want to assume that a mass killer would have respected the gun laws, then perhaps	bluestateguy	Jul 2012	#3
Without getting into the specifics of gun control legislation...	ljm2002	Jul 2012	#35
Not at all. Most people simply don't understand the purpose of laws.	PavePusher	Jul 2012	#56
Again, I was not discussing gun control laws per se...	ljm2002	Jul 2012	#84
the effect of laws is to reduce access to the items made illegal	DBoon	Jul 2012	#161
the effect of laws is to reduce access to the items made illegal	Trunk Monkey	Jul 2012	#202
Illegal items are more difficult to procure and more expensive	DBoon	Jul 2012	#150
Want to buy a Rolex?	sofa king	Jul 2012	#216
Just because someone is a mass killer doesn't mean we should allow them to legally buy weapons	TNLib	Jul 2012	#164
There was and is no proof he is mentally ill	obamanut2012	Jul 2012	#172
Yes there is.	Nostradammit	Jul 2012	#185
YAY, let's promote Republican ideals!	Tejas	Jul 2012	#5
Simply false. The AWB was passed by a Democratic Congress and signed into law	apocalypsehow	Jul 2012	#8
Oh, in that case, YAY, let's lose everything this November!	Tejas	Jul 2012	#14
Your concession that you posted false information in the reply above is noted,	apocalypsehow	Jul 2012	#16
That an AWB is a Republican ideal is not false, I posted links to their website.	Tejas	Jul 2012	#26
It is false: the AWB was a progressive ideal, passed by a Democratic Congress	apocalypsehow	Jul 2012	#30
I'm speaking of the current call for an AWB.	Tejas	Jul 2012	#37
No, you weren't, but even if you had been that assertion is false, also.	apocalypsehow	Jul 2012	#39
"renewal" - thank you for admitting this is current affairs.	Tejas	Jul 2012	#50
As no one ever denied it, your reply is once again non-responsive & irrelevant.	apocalypsehow	Jul 2012	#52
so why did Republicans vote for it?	gejohnston	Jul 2012	#136
Once again: the AWB was passed by a Democratic Congress, and signed into law	apocalypsehow	Jul 2012	#139
It was a "progressive ideal." Because it was signed by Clinton? It was a progressive as NAFTA.	AnotherMcIntosh	Jul 2012	#44
Proposed by liberal Democrats in Congress; passed by a Democratic Congress; signed	apocalypsehow	Jul 2012	#48
If you want to feel sorry, you can feel sorry for not being able to distinguish liberals and	AnotherMcIntosh	Jul 2012	#62
Like I said above, sorry you don't seem to like progressives or liberals much,	apocalypsehow	Jul 2012	#65
Do you have a comprehension problem? You are repeating yourself, unnecessarily so.	AnotherMcIntosh	Jul 2012	#66
Ahhh, now the "comprehension" card emerges, in lieu of saying anything on point.	apocalypsehow	Jul 2012	#68
My words mean exactly what they said. They were exactly on point. If you don't understand,	AnotherMcIntosh	Jul 2012	#78
They were not on point and, hence, there is no need to "re-read" them.	apocalypsehow	Jul 2012	#81
The NRA supports an AWB?	sabrina 1	Jul 2012	#96
Who told you that? I hope they don't really think you're that stupid.	Tejas	Jul 2012	#209
The 'Individual Mandate' is RW policy passed by'dems'. It happens. DLC=GOP	Edweird	Jul 2012	#47
Well let's finish the thought here	nadinbrzezinski	Jul 2012	#31
Let's also get a clue, you ever heard of Harry Reid?	Tejas	Jul 2012	#87
Yup, and your point	nadinbrzezinski	Jul 2012	#95
My point is to give you a clue that all Dems do not look at NRA as the plague.	Tejas	Jul 2012	#100
We know that, and again your point?	nadinbrzezinski	Jul 2012	#103
So, the Bradyes support the AWB	Trunk Monkey	Jul 2012	#206
Actually that is his contention	nadinbrzezinski	Jul 2012	#215
The $1,000,000 free money they get MIGHT be a clue?	Tejas	Jul 2012	#212
The NRA overwhelmingly contributes money and resources to defeat Democrats	apocalypsehow	Jul 2012	#127
Some Democrats have actually rated very high on the NRA's scale	DBoon	Jul 2012	#153
Yes, and water is wet (you DO know who Harry Reid is don't you???)	Tejas	Jul 2012	#174
Remind me who runs the NRA again?	HankyDub	Jul 2012	#85
Remind me of why I should care?	Tejas	Jul 2012	#89
Because when you're pushing bullshit	HankyDub	Jul 2012	#90
No need to deceive, Jim Brady IS (not "was") an R.	Tejas	Jul 2012	#91
Sarah Palin is for an AWB too?	sabrina 1	Jul 2012	#98
Sarah Brady, Jims wife	rl6214	Jul 2012	#113
The campaign is named after a Republican who spent the better part of his life in a wheelchair...	Hippo_Tron	Jul 2012	#99
as to the rest of the Repubs on the company roster?	Tejas	Jul 2012	#102
False, again. Per usual. The vast majority of board members are progressive Democrats. n/t.	apocalypsehow	Jul 2012	#126
Oh, like Helmke the Republican Mayor?	Tejas	Jul 2012	#163
Your point was obliterated by the logical fact that Brady has a reason to be for gun control	Demit	Jul 2012	#144
Republican wimpy do-gooders	CynicalOtto	Jul 2012	#119
You sure don't seem like a Democrat	brentspeak	Jul 2012	#205
And a Ruger Mini-14 wasn't. A superior weapon that fires the same round. No points for you. n/t	Egalitarian Thug	Jul 2012	#6
Right	ProSense	Jul 2012	#9
Clearly I do. You're the one trying to score political points from this. n/t	Egalitarian Thug	Jul 2012	#17
Oh, bullshit	ProSense	Jul 2012	#20
Right back atcha. Re-read your title and tell me again that you didn't write this to score points	Egalitarian Thug	Jul 2012	#34
Wait	ProSense	Jul 2012	#40
But you put it up here. Are you now saying that you disagree with it?	Egalitarian Thug	Jul 2012	#49
Yes,	ProSense	Jul 2012	#54
It was intended to be silly. The point remains that the ban would have had no effect	Egalitarian Thug	Jul 2012	#70
"superior weapon" went right over his head	Tejas	Jul 2012	#104
The AR15 could not have "remained" illegal because it was NOT illegal	rl6214	Jul 2012	#114
I took the OP's word that the Colt was on the list. n/t	Egalitarian Thug	Jul 2012	#115
Yes, we do know more.	AtheistCrusader	Jul 2012	#183
So, the death and maiming by gunfire of scores of people is a game to you, is it?	apocalypsehow	Jul 2012	#12
I'm not the one trying to score political poo-flinging points from another tragedy. n/t	Egalitarian Thug	Jul 2012	#15
Commenting on the insanity that is America's lack of effective gun control laws	apocalypsehow	Jul 2012	#22
Your prejudice is showing. What America lacks is a sane social structure and explicit contract.	Egalitarian Thug	Jul 2012	#41
My "prejudice" against tens of thousands of needless deaths every year	apocalypsehow	Jul 2012	#46
Yes, this guy was clearly concerned with obeying the law. Again, you cling to a fantasy	Egalitarian Thug	Jul 2012	#58
You "cling" to the fantasy that more effective gun control laws don't work.	apocalypsehow	Jul 2012	#63
You should go see Bowling for Columbine again. Michael Moore does a good job of addressing the	Egalitarian Thug	Jul 2012	#73
Yada-yada-yada. Whatever: when you decide to post something on point, get back with me. n/t.	apocalypsehow	Jul 2012	#74
So you have nothing, as usual. n/t	Egalitarian Thug	Jul 2012	#79
Nope: you just haven't bothered to reply to it with anything substantive. As usual.	apocalypsehow	Jul 2012	#82
You're the one that jumped in with your dissembling and assignation of motivations	Egalitarian Thug	Jul 2012	#101
Nope: sorry you missed my original reply. I'll re-post it here for your perusal:	apocalypsehow	Jul 2012	#105
Shall we repeat the entire sub-thread. The expressed opinion still misses	Egalitarian Thug	Jul 2012	#116
Keep telling yourself that, if it makes you feel better.	apocalypsehow	Jul 2012	#124
I am curious about your ideas on effective gun controls. Please be specific and detailed.	johnnytoobad	Jul 2012	#181
The "points" meme comes from a certain jackass that posts in the Gungeon.	Tejas	Jul 2012	#18
Oh, so it's a Gungeon "game." Haven't been down there in a while.	apocalypsehow	Jul 2012	#19
The troll that invented the system is proud.	Tejas	Jul 2012	#28
Uh-huh. Riiiiiiggghht...	apocalypsehow	Jul 2012	#42
Stop by the Gungeon, it's there for all to see.	Tejas	Jul 2012	#51
Nope, it's not. But it's cute to pretend, I guess. n/t.	apocalypsehow	Jul 2012	#57
lets go down the list, shall we?	beevul	Jul 2012	#121
Nope: it doesn't clear anything up, except your ability to post pointless links.	apocalypsehow	Jul 2012	#131
Thats ok, its there for those with an open mind...	beevul	Jul 2012	#179
This TEC-9 trumps your Mini-14	Tejas	Jul 2012	#55
But an AK-47 trumps everything	Tejas	Jul 2012	#60
Manufacture of normal capacity magazines was banned under the late (unlamented) AWB,	Johnny Rico	Jul 2012	#10
"He had a high-capacity clip, which were banned as 'large capacity ammunition feeding devices' "?	AnotherMcIntosh	Jul 2012	#13
This message was self-deleted by its author	GarroHorus	Jul 2012	#23
A search through the Brownells online catalog shows that it doesn't sell any clips. Only magazines.	AnotherMcIntosh	Jul 2012	#29
This message was self-deleted by its author	GarroHorus	Jul 2012	#33
That's what I say.	AnotherMcIntosh	Jul 2012	#38
That's a 100 round Beta-C magazine.	AtheistCrusader	Jul 2012	#75
This message was self-deleted by its author	GarroHorus	Jul 2012	#88
The ban expired in 2004. Millions of normal capacity magazines have been manufactured since.	Johnny Rico	Jul 2012	#25
Some people seem to think that there is a difference between clips and magazines.	AnotherMcIntosh	Jul 2012	#36
Well...there is a difference, as your link points out.	Johnny Rico	Jul 2012	#45
Did you see the word "If"? It's there. Manufacturers decide the limits to place upon stipper clips	AnotherMcIntosh	Jul 2012	#53
While I'll grant that there's a practical limit to the size of a stripper clip, I was speaking of a	Johnny Rico	Jul 2012	#67
There is also 2-round stripper clip which is sometimes used for NRA matches (8 & 2 to mimic a M1)	AnotherMcIntosh	Jul 2012	#77
The 100 round circular magazine was what allowed Holmes to shoot so many people so quickly.	Major Hogwash	Jul 2012	#21
C-Mags have been around long before the AWB	NickB79	Jul 2012	#64
Germans used C-mags for their MG-42s during WWII	Kaleva	Jul 2012	#204
Which is relatively meaningless.	Spider Jerusalem	Jul 2012	#24
Quit it. That is logical fact reasoning and not acceptable here!	RegieRocker	Jul 2012	#32
And it probably wouldn't have stopped this nutcase from getting one.	WillowTree	Jul 2012	#27
That is true, but would he still have had one?	Rex	Jul 2012	#43
Bad reporting. Millions of AR-15's were made and sold during the AWB	NickB79	Jul 2012	#61
Oh. but no! There is no such thing as an "assault weapon"	Ruby the Liberal	Jul 2012	#69
True. Congress tried to define it. Assault RIFLE is a real thing.	AtheistCrusader	Jul 2012	#80
Exactly	obamanut2012	Jul 2012	#159
Thank you.	AnotherMcIntosh	Jul 2012	#83
This message was hidden by jury decision.	WilliamDawes	Jul 2012	#71
zacks a dumbass if he believes what he wrote.	ileus	Jul 2012	#72
OH NO, did it have a bayonet lug, flash suppressor and a pistol grip?! THE HORROR	AtheistCrusader	Jul 2012	#76
Such a red herring.	Daemonaquila	Jul 2012	#86
And this would have mattered..	sendero	Jul 2012	#92
I know	ProSense	Jul 2012	#93
And while we are at it..	sendero	Jul 2012	#94
I know	ProSense	Jul 2012	#97
Gun Ban ? That's crazy	clint55	Jul 2012	#106
When something happens this sudden and fast, in the dark, with tear gas...	arcane1	Jul 2012	#107
Amurikans don't want no god-damned legislation banning their semi-automatic	indepat	Jul 2012	#109
This is absolutely untrue.	Atypical Liberal	Jul 2012	#110
He could have used one of these	krispos42	Jul 2012	#111
Neither the AR15 nor the high-capacity (clip) magazine were banned under the 94 AWB	rl6214	Jul 2012	#112
Comon Sense	CynicalOtto	Jul 2012	#118
What kind of surprised me was the 6,000 rounds. Seems that would have triggered some interest.	freshwest	Jul 2012	#120
and he supposedly bought his ammo over the internet!	DBoon	Jul 2012	#155
Whoa, that adds a new dimension to the case. It makes oversight by state laws or vendorsirrelevant.	freshwest	Jul 2012	#169
What's to stop him from buying a different gun?	JonLP24	Jul 2012	#122
He could have bought an AR-15 anyway, just without a couple features that had no bearing on the atta	AtheistCrusader	Jul 2012	#182
Another Update	DallasNE	Jul 2012	#123
I would like to give DallasNE some recognition for an amazing mish-mash of incorrect information	slackmaster	Jul 2012	#125
Thanks Slackmaster! It amazes me the crap people pull out concerning guns. n-t	Logical	Jul 2012	#128
This message was hidden by jury decision.	slackmaster	Jul 2012	#130
Openly mocking actual progressive DU members with a Freeper talking point, i.e.,	apocalypsehow	Jul 2012	#134
You missed my point. There are posters who feign ignorance on DU in order to make DU look stupid.	slackmaster	Jul 2012	#142
I agree. Where are the rational arguments? n-t	Logical	Jul 2012	#137
This message was hidden by jury decision.	DallasNE	Jul 2012	#133
The expired "assault weapons ban" was not the Brady Law	slackmaster	Jul 2012	#140
My Post Was On Ammo	DallasNE	Jul 2012	#152
And it was WRONG in every respect on ammo	slackmaster	Jul 2012	#156
This message was self-deleted by its author	permatex	Jul 2012	#162
Armor piercing ammo is perfectly legal to buy over the internet.	Johnny Rico	Jul 2012	#165
My bad	permatex	Jul 2012	#168
I have not read any "cop killer ammo" was used	obamanut2012	Jul 2012	#167
As defined by gun grabbers, all .223 is "cop killer ammo",	Johnny Rico	Jul 2012	#176
Hey clueless, read closer.....	Logical	Jul 2012	#141
Who's Clueless - My Post Was On Ammo	DallasNE	Jul 2012	#154
No.	gejohnston	Jul 2012	#143
You really need to stop and research before you post	permatex	Jul 2012	#145
This message was hidden by jury decision.	DallasNE	Jul 2012	#160
You said that the ammo he used was banned under the Brady law that bush let expire	permatex	Jul 2012	#166
There is no reason to personally attack anyone like that	obamanut2012	Jul 2012	#171
Two different laws.	atreides1	Jul 2012	#148
You sound about as clueless as this congresswoman	permatex	Jul 2012	#151
I give Carolyn McCarthy a pass, because of her son and husband	obamanut2012	Jul 2012	#170
If she weren't in a position to craft laws	permatex	Jul 2012	#173
I understand your POV, so we will have to agree to disagree on this	obamanut2012	Jul 2012	#178
There is no such thing	JeepJK556	Jul 2012	#129
Come on, we all know that there are now micro-chips inserted into bullets	GarroHorus	Jul 2012	#135
I have a friend that works at the gun counter in a Cabelas store, he said the	doc03	Jul 2012	#132
What idiot told you Obama is going to ban the most popular-selling longarm in US history?	Tejas	Jul 2012	#147
That was just sarcasm, don't you know the NRA has been pushing that	doc03	Jul 2012	#149
Sorry, 95% of gunowners do NOT belong to the NRA.	Tejas	Jul 2012	#157
The Sickest Day	elbloggoZY27	Jul 2012	#146
I doubt the USA is the most violent nation in the world	obamanut2012	Jul 2012	#175
We're not even it the top 10	permatex	Jul 2012	#177
5.56 or .223 ammo is the reason more did not die	chapel hill dem	Jul 2012	#180
If I've gotta get shot by something, I'm definitely going to opt for .223 over anythign .30 cal.	AtheistCrusader	Jul 2012	#184
The fact is that these rules were never really enforced	rudycantfail	Jul 2012	#188
How were they not enforced?	Johnny Rico	Jul 2012	#189
People who wanted to get assault weapons	rudycantfail	Jul 2012	#190
That's because the Assault Weapons Ban didn't make it illegal to purchase assault weapons.	Johnny Rico	Jul 2012	#192
Point made and taken	rudycantfail	Jul 2012	#198
It was a stupid law then and it would be a stupid law now.	Johnny Rico	Jul 2012	#199
Again, I want a law to do what this law claimed it would do - ban assault weapons.	rudycantfail	Jul 2012	#213
We'll have to agree to disagree on the need for such a law.	Johnny Rico	Jul 2012	#214
So, were you going to update the title and contents of your post with the truth, or what?	AtheistCrusader	Jul 2012	#200
Colt simply changed the name and modified the gun in order to continue selling the AR-15	Kaleva	Jul 2012	#211

Response to ProSense (Original post)

Fri Jul 20, 2012, 04:30 PM

PoliticAverse (5,536 posts)

1. high-capacity 'clips' (magazines) were not 'banned', you could always buy them...

and the 'sharp restrictions' on AR-15s were basically cosmetic.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Assault_Weapons_Ban

Expired Assault Weapons Ban Would Have Covered Rifle Used In Colorado Shooting

1. high-capacity 'clips' (magazines) were not 'banned', you could always buy them...

2. From the

4. they weren't sold illegally

11. Thanks for pointing that out. n/t

201. In fact, that wasn't even the extent of the truth.

7. It was perfectly legal to sell high-capacity magazines that were manufactured before the 'ban'...

59. and that is a key point

108. Rachel Madow made the same mistakes when reporting on the AWB...

138. Yep, gun manufacturers and those coveting such guns took advantage of the "loopholes". Sounds like

158. It was a stupid law and manufacturers complied with the stupidity.

117. It's also worth pointing out that the AR-15 was never banned.

191. The legal/illegal versions

193. Thus illustrating just how idiotic the AWB really was.

196. The mag on the illegal one would be illegal

197. Do they make them in 6.8 SPC?

203. No

207. Aw.

208. Good reason to buy one in 5.56

194. Right. This entire original post is simply incorrect. nt

195. The headline, at least, is simply incorrect.

186. new

187. What in the world is a "multi-clip"?

210. It's the new gun control buzz word.

3. If you want to assume that a mass killer would have respected the gun laws, then perhaps

35. Without getting into the specifics of gun control legislation...

56. Not at all. Most people simply don't understand the purpose of laws.

84. Again, I was not discussing gun control laws per se...

161. the *effect* of laws is to reduce access to the items made illegal

202. the *effect* of laws is to reduce access to the items made illegal

150. Illegal items are more difficult to procure and more expensive

216. Want to buy a Rolex?

164. Just because someone is a mass killer doesn't mean we should allow them to legally buy weapons

172. There was and is no proof he is mentally ill

185. Yes there is.

5. YAY, let's promote Republican ideals!

8. Simply false. The AWB was passed by a Democratic Congress and signed into law

14. Oh, in that case, YAY, let's lose everything this November!

16. Your concession that you posted false information in the reply above is noted,

26. That an AWB is a Republican ideal is not false, I posted links to their website.

30. It is false: the AWB was a progressive ideal, passed by a Democratic Congress

37. I'm speaking of the current call for an AWB.

39. No, you weren't, but even if you had been that assertion is false, also.

50. "renewal" - thank you for admitting this is current affairs.

52. As no one ever denied it, your reply is once again non-responsive & irrelevant.

136. so why did Republicans vote for it?

139. Once again: the AWB was passed by a Democratic Congress, and signed into law

44. It was a "progressive ideal." Because it was signed by Clinton? It was a progressive as NAFTA.

48. Proposed by liberal Democrats in Congress; passed by a Democratic Congress; signed

62. If you want to feel sorry, you can feel sorry for not being able to distinguish liberals and

65. Like I said above, sorry you don't seem to like progressives or liberals much,

66. Do you have a comprehension problem? You are repeating yourself, unnecessarily so.

68. Ahhh, now the "comprehension" card emerges, in lieu of saying anything on point.

78. My words mean exactly what they said. They were exactly on point. If you don't understand,

81. They were not on point and, hence, there is no need to "re-read" them.

96. The NRA supports an AWB?

209. Who told you that? I hope they don't really think you're that stupid.

47. The 'Individual Mandate' is RW policy passed by'dems'. It happens. DLC=GOP

31. Well let's finish the thought here

87. Let's also get a clue, you ever heard of Harry Reid?

95. Yup, and your point

100. My point is to give you a clue that all Dems do not look at NRA as the plague.

103. We know that, and again your point?

206. So, the Bradyes support the AWB

215. Actually that is his contention

212. The $1,000,000 free money they get MIGHT be a clue?

127. The NRA *overwhelmingly* contributes money and resources to defeat Democrats

153. Some Democrats have actually rated very high on the NRA's scale

174. Yes, and water is wet (you DO know who Harry Reid is don't you???)

85. Remind me who runs the NRA again?

89. Remind me of why I should care?

90. Because when you're pushing bullshit

91. No need to deceive, Jim Brady IS (not "was") an R.

98. Sarah Palin is for an AWB too?

113. Sarah Brady, Jims wife

99. The campaign is named after a Republican who spent the better part of his life in a wheelchair...

102. as to the rest of the Repubs on the company roster?

126. False, again. Per usual. The vast majority of board members are progressive Democrats. n/t.

163. Oh, like Helmke the Republican Mayor?

144. Your point was obliterated by the logical fact that Brady has a reason to be for gun control

161. the effect of laws is to reduce access to the items made illegal

202. the effect of laws is to reduce access to the items made illegal

127. The NRA overwhelmingly contributes money and resources to defeat Democrats