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Fri Jul 20, 2012, 01:45 PM

No, James Holmes was not an Occupy member (that we know of)

This rumor that's going around seems to have two sources. The first is speculation from a private detective somewhere who noted that the villain of "The Dark Knight Rises" is modeled after OWS (which is false, as Nolan conceived the film before OWS), and therefore Holmes is an OWS anarchist who wanted to "stick it to the man." Don't ask me to explain the logic of that; I can't. But that's what he said, and right wingers are running with it.

The second source is a guy on Twitter who found a video praising OWS with accompanying music by one "James Willie Holmes." A bit of research showed that this James Holmes wrote his first song 13 years before the Aurora shooter was born.

People are saying we should not politicize the shooting, and we shouldn't. There's no reason to; with a gun related homicide occurring every 45 minutes in this country, we're already enduring the equivalent of 2.6 Aurora shootings per day. But that goes both ways: unless there is firm reason that Holmes was an OWS member, we need to resist that notion as forcefully as we can, just as the Tea Party is resisting the notion that Holmes was one of them.

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Reply No, James Holmes was not an Occupy member (that we know of) (Original post)
Chichiri Jul 2012 OP
JustAnotherGen Jul 2012 #1
sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #2
Comrade_McKenzie Jul 2012 #3
Politicalboi Jul 2012 #4
flamingdem Jul 2012 #5
brewens Jul 2012 #6
flamingdem Jul 2012 #7
SoutherDem Jul 2012 #8
SalviaBlue Jul 2012 #9
Chichiri Jul 2012 #10

Response to Chichiri (Original post)

Fri Jul 20, 2012, 01:46 PM

1. There is

A LOT of speculation going on today. A lot.

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Response to Chichiri (Original post)

Fri Jul 20, 2012, 01:47 PM

2. So he's a Tea-bagger AND an Occupier?

Sad that people want to politicize such a terrible tragedy.

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Response to Chichiri (Original post)

Fri Jul 20, 2012, 01:50 PM

3. Yep. Neither are valid sources.

 

I saw the website of that private detective. His website design made Drudge look cutting edge.

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Response to Chichiri (Original post)

Fri Jul 20, 2012, 01:55 PM

4. These type of shootings aren't the same

These are plotted out. Most gun deaths are sudden or accidental. We will find out his politics or lack of when they open his computer.

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Response to Chichiri (Original post)

Fri Jul 20, 2012, 01:56 PM

5. This is being pushed on some conspiracy right wing sites

Very good to debunk it

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Response to Chichiri (Original post)

Fri Jul 20, 2012, 01:58 PM

6. The wing-nuts would just love that. You see stuff like this every time.

I remember the focus of the yokel sheriff right away at one school shooting was speculating if the kids were on drugs. It was one before Columbine if I remember right. A couple kids got the guns from an uncle, pulled the fire-alarm and shot people coming out of the school.

You could tell that the sheriff really wanted to be able to blame it all on the drugs. I guess I do it also. I always hope it's can be put on right-wing nuts.

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Response to brewens (Reply #6)

Fri Jul 20, 2012, 02:03 PM

7. One rightwing site had a supposed photo of him with an occupy sign

They know some people will get this impression and it will stick

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Response to Chichiri (Original post)

Fri Jul 20, 2012, 02:06 PM

8. Over the next few days we will hear is was

part of every conceivable origination even if they work against each other. While speculation is going to happen, the truth will take time. Remember Timothy McVeigh was a Muslim terrorist during the first few hours after the Oklahoma City bombing.

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Response to Chichiri (Original post)

Fri Jul 20, 2012, 02:10 PM

9. Glenn Beck: "No, James Holmes was not an Occupy member (that we know of)"

This is exactly what he said in the opening to his show this morning.

I had my XM radio on the channel that carries his show when I started my car this morning and that is what I heard him say.

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Response to SalviaBlue (Reply #9)

Fri Jul 20, 2012, 04:43 PM

10. What a crappy coincidence. n/t

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