Fuck the NRA

[Hugabear]

I know there is a strong pro-NRA contingent here on DU. I don't care. I'm sick and tired of the NRA and its sycophants. I'm sick and tired of this gun-culture they've helped to create and foster. I'm sick and tired of their opposition to each and every sensible piece of legislation designed to slow down the easy access to high-power firearms. It makes me sick to my stomach that every year or so, we have to deal with some mass-shooting. How many more people have to DIE so that the NRA can cling to their easy access to guns?

[sadbear]

1. I wonder who'll be first

to say that if MORE people in that theater had guns that this senseless tragedy could have been prevented.

[atreides1]

5. That is the purest form of BS

Even if others had been armed...what were they going to shoot at? What are the chances they would have hit innocent bystanders just trying to get out of the theater?

And from what some of the witnesses were saying they thought it was part of a show for the movie!

[SoutherDem]

8. It has been said in many other posts today

one all but said if they were there they would have had their gun and stopped it.

[AsahinaKimi]

10. Some one already has said that..

http://www.mediaite.com/online/rep-louie-gohmert-suggests-aurora-theater-shooting-result-of-ongoing-attacks-on-judeo-christan-beliefs/

His name is Louie Gohmert.
quote: Rep. Gohmert also said the tragedy possibly could have been avoided if someone else in the movie theater had been carrying a gun and was able to take down the shooter.

[sadbear]

13. That's not surprising at all

I would have won if there was a contest to guess who it would be.

[AsahinaKimi]

14. I just learned about this idiot

Recently... guess now, I know more.

[Not Me]

27. The shooter had a bullet proof vest.

Unless your CCW is one powerful weapon, he'd take you out about .1 second later.

[ErikJ]

33. Then we ALL need to wear bullet proof vests with our guns.

Everybody will shoot at everybody in the theater but no one will get hurt!

[sadbear]

41. Hey, that's a great argument against their flawed logic

especially when the shooter is wearing the helmet, too.

[pinboy3niner]

2. FUCK THE NRA

I can get down with that.

Oh, and FUCK RON PAUL, too.

[2pooped2pop]

28. agree n/t

NRA has weilded way too much power politically.

[Hoyt]

3. Maybe someone should ask NRA leadership -- Grover Norquist, Ollie North, Teddy Nugent, John Bolton,

and worse.

[flamingdem]

4. Tired of them. They need to be muzzled. Fuck the NRA

[railsback]

29. Looks like they got another poster child today.

[smirkymonkey]

65. Perfect Slogan.

K&R

[NeverEnuff]

6. Guns and the NRA

I have been a gun owner for over fifty years and a one time NRA member. They have gotten so ridiculous. Wake up gun owners it is not about guns it is about the money! If you believe their argument then you should think it is acceptable to own a nuclear weapon. Try relaxing knowing that is a possibility.

[fredamae]

15. Me too.

The NRA is old and antiquated. They must be "retired" for they No Longer are credible, reputable nor Safe for our society when it's easier for a person to buy a gun than to get necessary Mental Health Care.

[chknltl]

60. Yes!

I own no guns but I agree 100% with what you just said.

[Odin2005]

52. This gun owner agrees with you 100%

The NRA is a lobby group for firearm manufacturers. They do not represent me, an owner of a rifle for hunting deer and a shotgun for hunting waterfowl.

I think those who buy military-type weapons are compensating for feelings of powerlessness in their own lives, something we all do when we play, say, Call of Duty (shooting Nazis) or Civilization (nuking cities), but for them the drive to compensate is muck more extreme and neurotic.

[chknltl]

59. This non-gun owner says RIGHT ON!

[Chorophyll]

7. K&R.

Enough gun worship already. It's over.

[G_j]

9. [phone]....

[jimlup]

11. Absolutely Agree! /nt

[yellerpup]

12. Fuck the NRA!

Repeat, repeat, repeat.

[LanternWaste]

16. I saw them as little more than a benign group, educating its members in both gun safety and law.

There was a time when I saw them as little more than a benign group, educating its members in both gun safety and law.

But in the here and now, I can't honestly see them as anything more than a political action committee, directed by the neo-cons, pandering to the lowest common denominators through fear-tactics for money to better purchase politicians friendly to their agenda.

[ileus]

17. Fuck the NRA

[Hell Hath No Fury]

18. May I join you?

Fuck the NRA.

[Dragonfli]

19. You can't fuck em, gun strokers stroke guns because there own weapons stay soft

hence the need for the phallic replacement and fantasies about entering flesh with their "penis bullets"

[Marinedem]

24. See below.

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[Dragonfli]

31. What am I looking at? it looks like a blur of someone watching TV, what is the point of that?

Can you supply an image that can be seen or perhaps describe what the blur represents?

[bongbong]

20. Careful!

I have found out that the various NRA-supporting gun-religionists here on DU are VERY SENSITIVE! How did I find this out?

My posts get alerted on with some regularity. I guess my "mean words" are as dangerous as the thugs (wink wink) the gun-religionists see lurking under their beds.

[TheCowsCameHome]

21. May I quote you?

Hugabear says "Fuck the NRA", and I concur.

Thank you.

[sellitman]

22. FUCK THE NRA

Gladly K&R

[Comrade_McKenzie]

23. They've caused more death in this country than any terrorist organization. nt

[99Forever]

25. I Agree.

And anyone who doesn't like it can kiss my pacifist ass.

[SecularMotion]

26. I don't understand why NRA supporters are allowed on DU

Discussing gun violence with NRAbots is like discussing racism with the KKK.

[CanonRay]

30. I own guns and I would NEVER support the NRA.

They have become monsters.

[DontTreadOnMe]

34. FUCK THE NRA

and I am really tired of all the gun nuts here on DU.

Maybe all the gun nuts should start a thread and volunteer their names to a global ignore list.

[GarroHorus]

35. The NRA uses the issue of Guns to promote right wing ideology, so yes, FUCK the NRA

Of course, that does not alter my opinion on the RKBA even though I do not own any firearms.

[Atypical Liberal]

37. The NRA also supports Democrats.

In the last election, all of my Democratic candidates except one had high marks from the NRA, and three of them were the endorsed candidate.

[Hoyt]

53. And what do you think NRA leadership like Grover Norquist requires of them.

It's not only gun related right wing issues Norquist, Bolton, North, Barr, membership (large TParty affiliated), etc., promote.

[Atypical Liberal]

56. The NRA requires respecting the second amendment.

Nothing more, nothing less.

It is certainly true that most NRA-endorsed politicians are right-wing, but this is not the fault of the NRA. The NRA can and does endorse anyone from any political party so long as they support the second amendment.

[Atypical Liberal]

36. Violent crime is down again this year, as it has been for years.

How many more people have to DIE so that the NRA can cling to their easy access to guns?

You do know that violent crime is now at a decades-long low, right?

[Ikonoklast]

40. Causation, correlation, but you already know that.

[Atypical Liberal]

42. Yes, of course I know that.

I have never claimed that increased firearms in circulation cause a decrease in crime.

All we can say is that we have had decades of ever-more-liberal firearm laws, plus increased numbers of firearms in circulation, and violent crime has continued to decline every year for decades now.

We can't say that increased numbers of firearms or more liberal firearm laws caused this, but it seems pretty unlikely that they hindered it.

[kwassa]

44. To which I say, fuck the NRA.

[Atypical Liberal]

45. You know the NRA endorses Democrats, right?

In the last election, all of my Democratic candidates except one had high marks from the NRA. Three of them were the endorsed candidate.

[kwassa]

46. So what? The NRA is crazy. I don't care who crazy people endorse.

Their lobbying work is anti-American and destructive to the country.

[Atypical Liberal]

47. The right to organize is not anti-American.

People (and I'm talking individuals, not corporations) should have the the right to organize and protect their interests through collective action.

This is not anti-American.

[kwassa]

48. Who is talking about the right to organize? Not me. The NRA is just crazy.

Crazy assholes like the NRA, Mr. Wayne Pierre specifically, can organize to their heart's content.

This does not make them less insane.

[Atypical Liberal]

50. That's because you are not recognizing it.

4 million people have organized and joined an organization that represents their interests.

That is exercising the right to organize and effect change through collective action. It is no different than a union.

[kwassa]

63. What in the world is your point?

Crazy people have unions, too?

[Atypical Liberal]

67. So only people who agree with you should be able to organize?

Anyone else is just "crazy people"?

Again, just like free speech, even speech we disagree with is not un-American, the right to organize and collectively advocate for a cause is not un-American.

[kwassa]

68. You misunderstand.

I don't think that the reason that they are un-American are because they are collectively organized. I think the reason they are un-American is that they pursue policies that are destructive to the national interest of this country.

Does that clarify it for you?

[Atypical Liberal]

70. Well that's fine then.

You are free to lobby for your interests, and we will continue to lobby for ours.

Personally, I think the founders did a fantastic job writing the second amendment, putting the ultimate means of force of arms in the hands of the people. And I think it is distinctly American.

[abolugi]

38. It's your God given

right to be able to gun down 70 innocent people in a public place!!
I'm sure he was just standing his ground...

In case it isn't obvious...



And just FYI... I am a gun owner and have NO problem with common sense gun control! I am not "anti-gun"

[abolugi]

39. BTW..

I normally try to stay out of gun threads... Today I am too angry and disgusted to stay quiet...

[teduska]

43. FUCK THE NRA

FUCK THE NRA

[sofa king]

49. What? Eazy-E was awesome!

Oh. N - R - A

Never mind.

[Odin2005]

51. Unfortunately it's not just the NRA, it's public opinion.

Over 50% of Americans oppose ANY ban on automatic weapons.

[Hoyt]

54. Got a link to that? Thanks.

[Odin2005]

55. it was a chart in another DU thread, can't remember which one.

Too many fucking gun threads.

[Hoyt]

58. Not enough I'm my opinion. This is a serious issue.

I'm sure someone has a link. I don't think 50% of population thinks it's OK for folks to walk around almost anywhere with Automatic weapons. I think if people really realized who is carrying guns out there, they'd vote differently (even regarding semi-auto).

[undeterred]

57. FUCK THE NRA

No democrat should have anything to do with it.

[Arctic Dave]

61. Fuck the NRA

And silk suit Wayne.

[cali]

62. the NRA is a sickening and sicko organization. Fuck them indeed.

[IowaRevolutionary]

64. Fuck the NRA, Fuck anybody who joins the NRA, Fuck anybody who supports the NRA nt

[WillyT]

66. Over Here... Look Over Here !!!

Link: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021006920

[spanone]

69. k&r...

[go west young man]

71. Fuck, double fuck and super cluster fuck the NRA!

Like all things in our greedy unregulated capitalist society it's about the money. Like health care and endless war lives are being lost but some greedy bastards are out to make a buck instead of working to make the world a better place.