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xchrom

(108,903 posts)
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 11:18 AM Jul 2012

Every Thing is Secret, So Don't Bother Asking.

http://www.nationofchange.org/everything-secret-so-don-t-bother-asking-1342793816

Did you know that in 2011 the U.S. government classified more than 92 million documents? Did you know that less than a generation ago, we got by with fewer than six million documents being classified? Along with this explosion in classification and state secrets, did you know that efforts to declassify documents -- to make them theoretically accessible to ordinary Americans -- have plummeted from 196 million pages declassified in 1996 to only 26.7 million in 2011?

Put simply, in less than a generation classification has increased by a factor of fifteen and declassification has decreased by a factor of seven. Boy, that makes me feel a lot freer and safer.

These facts and others that should raise the hackles of any red-blooded American are in this eye-opening article by Tom Engelhardt. Why should they raise our hackles? For at least three reasons.

First, classification is important; state secrets do need to be guarded. But more important than classification is government transparency. We the people need to know everything that we can know, because if we don't, we can't hold government and our elected officials accountable. Classification in a democracy must be used judiciously and sparingly, else democracy itself is imperiled.
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Every Thing is Secret, So Don't Bother Asking. (Original Post) xchrom Jul 2012 OP
You people don't have a right to know about this stuff pinboy3niner Jul 2012 #1
we might get uppity and start askin for stuff. xchrom Jul 2012 #2
Might even lead to equal rights, and shit nt pinboy3niner Jul 2012 #3
That's just CRAZY talk!11 xchrom Jul 2012 #4
Gotta fight 'em in Uganda so we don't have to fight 'em here!1!! pinboy3niner Jul 2012 #5
... xchrom Jul 2012 #7
... pinboy3niner Jul 2012 #9
... xchrom Jul 2012 #11
Not a big fan of champagne... pinboy3niner Jul 2012 #13
i have champagne taste -- and NO BUDGET. xchrom Jul 2012 #14
At least you still have the glamour pinboy3niner Jul 2012 #18
The coup in 2001 was quite successful Ezlivin Jul 2012 #6
as always -- follow the money. nt xchrom Jul 2012 #8
..and who has all the Money? formercia Jul 2012 #10
not me, that's for damn sure. nt xchrom Jul 2012 #12
Oh, damn! I was counting on you to help me out. pinboy3niner Jul 2012 #15
I'll be right over w/ my imaginary bag of money xchrom Jul 2012 #20
That simplifies things..... formercia Jul 2012 #16
You will be maligned for your views whatchamacallit Jul 2012 #21
Except our phone calls and emails. woo me with science Jul 2012 #17
+1 xchrom Jul 2012 #19
You know we've had our eye on you for a long time pinboy3niner Jul 2012 #22
I suspect our accounts at DU will be color-coded soon. woo me with science Jul 2012 #23
Not by our admins pinboy3niner Jul 2012 #24
Oh for pete's sake. nt woo me with science Jul 2012 #25
I call dibs on your pickup truck! Tejas Jul 2012 #26
I would love to have a peek of documents during the Bush administration. Just a peek..n/t monmouth Jul 2012 #27

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
13. Not a big fan of champagne...
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 11:56 AM
Jul 2012

But Bud Light's new "Lime-a-Ritas" have been getting me through the hot weather.

xchrom

(108,903 posts)
14. i have champagne taste -- and NO BUDGET.
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 12:01 PM
Jul 2012

and the dogs are afraid of the central air -- so most of the time i just sit and swelter and curse at the dogs.

i'm trolling the bottom of the glamour barrel.

Ezlivin

(8,153 posts)
6. The coup in 2001 was quite successful
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 11:40 AM
Jul 2012

The 9/11 psych-op has made Americans a pushover for the magic words "protecting you from terrorists."

Approximately 3,000 people died on 9/11 and it was a Hollywood-like spectacle. That one event changed this country forever. And because of those deaths we've launched multiple wars and chewed through over a trillion dollars "to keep Americans safe."

Yet over 30,000 citizens die every year in vehicle accidents and we've not increased the budget for highway safety nor put pressure on automobile manufacturers to make safer vehicles.

Over 500,000 citizens die annually from cancer. Where is funding to protect us from that threat?

The greatest threat to Americans is not terrorism, but you would not know that from our government's reaction.

9/11 was a great gift to a number of people. Without it we would not have Homeland Security, the TSA, invasive searches, wiretapping and the classification of too many documents as secret.

It's instructive to always ask "Who benefits?" (Cui buno)

xchrom

(108,903 posts)
20. I'll be right over w/ my imaginary bag of money
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 12:12 PM
Jul 2012

I set aside for champagne & the glamour barrel. You can try on my Tiaras.

whatchamacallit

(15,558 posts)
21. You will be maligned for your views
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 12:13 PM
Jul 2012

And the "sane" will continue to scratch their heads as we tumble further and further down the rabbit hole.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
17. Except our phone calls and emails.
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 12:04 PM
Jul 2012


Joe Lieberman trying to pass Cybersecurity Act of 2012. Please oppose.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002978169

Why is Obama pushing Joe Lieberman's surveillance "cybersecurity" bill?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002981288

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
22. You know we've had our eye on you for a long time
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 12:20 PM
Jul 2012

I'm probably not supposed to say that, but I figure they'll never find out about i...GACK...

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
23. I suspect our accounts at DU will be color-coded soon.
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 12:23 PM
Jul 2012

Turd Way will have one color, potential terrorists the other.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
24. Not by our admins
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 12:33 PM
Jul 2012

They've done a great job managing the site--even turning over much of the admin to the members.

If you want to dis David & crew, be assured that a lot of us will be standing up for them.

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