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Thu Jul 19, 2012, 09:19 AM

In which I receive another reminder as to why I don't discuss politics at work.

I work with some really great guys, but they are very conservative and agree with much of what the Tea Party stands for. The discussion around the break table this morning included speculation about Romney’s choice of running mate. Someone mentioned that Condi Rice had been considered, but she had turned it down. I pointed out that they were trying to get the black vote and the women’s vote all at the same time just like last cycle when they tried to get the women’s vote by running Sarah Palin for VP.

That’s when it got interesting. These guys are convinced that Sarah was chosen for her intellect and no other reason. I asked “Have you ever really listened to her speak? She just connects a lot of words, but she never really says anything.”

Why, of course, they’ve listened to her. Apparently I haven’t or I would know how smart she is. They are really disappointed that I don’t recognize just how smart she is. She’s a lot smarter than “your President”!

!?!?!?!?!WHAT!?!?!?!?!

My reply: “Let’s see. It took Sarah 5 years to get a degree in sports journalism and “my President” was President of the Harvard Law Review.”

………….silence………….

“So, are you going to get that four-wheeler you were looking at?”

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Reply In which I receive another reminder as to why I don't discuss politics at work. (Original post)
Arkansas Granny Jul 2012 OP
PoliticAverse Jul 2012 #1
still_one Jul 2012 #2
Arkansas Granny Jul 2012 #8
raccoon Jul 2012 #19
no_hypocrisy Jul 2012 #3
Arkansas Granny Jul 2012 #9
1StrongBlackMan Jul 2012 #27
proud2BlibKansan Jul 2012 #4
Gidney N Cloyd Jul 2012 #5
Arkansas Granny Jul 2012 #7
sadbear Jul 2012 #6
klook Jul 2012 #10
Arkansas Granny Jul 2012 #12
Scuba Jul 2012 #11
TheKentuckian Jul 2012 #13
Arkansas Granny Jul 2012 #17
dionysus Jul 2012 #21
Art_from_Ark Jul 2012 #14
Arkansas Granny Jul 2012 #15
Art_from_Ark Jul 2012 #16
Arkansas Granny Jul 2012 #18
Art_from_Ark Jul 2012 #23
Art_from_Ark Jul 2012 #26
nc4bo Jul 2012 #20
Bluerthanblue Jul 2012 #24
Bluerthanblue Jul 2012 #22
Arkansas Granny Jul 2012 #25
Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #28
Arkansas Granny Jul 2012 #30
Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #31
Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #29

Response to Arkansas Granny (Original post)

Thu Jul 19, 2012, 09:30 AM

1. They were 'vamped'... n/t

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Original post)

Thu Jul 19, 2012, 09:31 AM

2. If they are admiring plain's intellect, that doesn't say much for your associates critical thinking.

It would be interesting if the government let the whole financial system implode, as palin and her tea party cronies were calling for where they would be now?

I would venture to say things would be a lot worse for them then they are now


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Response to still_one (Reply #2)

Thu Jul 19, 2012, 09:45 AM

8. They watch Fox News. What more do I need to say?

Anything that doesn't agree with their way of thinking is not worth listening to, in their opinion. They don't explore any dissenting opinions to see if they have any merit, they just dismiss them as being wrong.

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Reply #8)

Thu Jul 19, 2012, 10:39 AM

19. I think that's a characteristic of their kind. nt

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Original post)

Thu Jul 19, 2012, 09:32 AM

3. Your coworkers were mistaking ignorance and stupidity for profundity.

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Response to no_hypocrisy (Reply #3)

Thu Jul 19, 2012, 09:50 AM

9. I think they were more impressed with the short skirts than her intellect.

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Reply #9)

Thu Jul 19, 2012, 11:23 AM

27. During the 2008 election cycle ...

I saw a bumpersticker that summed up what these people were thinking, perfectly:

"I'm voting for the hot chick

Palin/McCain 2008"

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Original post)

Thu Jul 19, 2012, 09:34 AM

4. I just read the McGinnis book on Palin

Even her friends in Wasilla don't think she's very smart. McGinnis writes about her bumper sticker political style. Short, sort of clever, but not the least bit intellectual.

There are a lot of words that describe this woman. Intellectual is not one of them.

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Original post)

Thu Jul 19, 2012, 09:36 AM

5. Any possibility your coworkers are just dicking with you?

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Response to Gidney N Cloyd (Reply #5)

Thu Jul 19, 2012, 09:39 AM

7. No. They were really surprised during the last election that I didn't jump on the McCain/Palin

bandwagon after Hillary lost in the primaries. They assumed that I would automatically vote for a woman, regardless what her politics were.

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Original post)

Thu Jul 19, 2012, 09:39 AM

6. That first sentence makes absolutely no sense to me.

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Original post)

Thu Jul 19, 2012, 09:51 AM

10. Oh, wow -- sometimes there really is no place to start.

I have always avoided talking about politics at work, unless I meet a liberal co-worker who tips his/her hand first. I have a small number of co-workers in that category, and enjoy talking about the events of the day with them on occasion. But for the others, it's just not important enough to me to try to score points with conservatives at work when that could mess up an otherwise good working relationship.

A few times over the years I've had to abruptly break off a conversation, for example:

Con Co-Worker: "Fox News is the conservative network. CNN is the liberal network."
Me: "Interesting. Oh, look at the time, I have a meeting in 5 minutes! Better run now! See ya!!"

Same Con Co-Worker, another time: "If you work for an enterprise of any size, there's really only one way to vote, and that's Republican."
Me: "Well, I guess people have a lot of different reasons for voting the way they do.... Uh-oh, time for my 2:00 meeting! See ya!!"

Then there was the time when another guy decided he just had to know my religious views. (I am an atheist, but sure wasn't going to bring that up at work, especially with a Religious Right type like this guy.)

He kept pressing me on it, so I finally just said --
Me: "I don't really have the same religious beliefs as most people."
Religious Right Co-Worker (looking *very* concerned and agitated): "Well, what are ya, then? Some kinda Buddhist er sumthin?"
Me, laughing: "No, no..."
Religious Right Co-Worker (eyes starting to bulge a little): "What is it, then? Some New Age crystal thing or sumthin like that?"
Me (smiling): "I'll fill you in on it some other time."

This guy got canned soon thereafter, not because of any of this -- I didn't report him, anyway, even though this kind of probing was clearly against stated company policy. So he didn't get a chance to corner me again.

Funny thing was, before he left I spent a lot of my personal time, after hours, reviewing, editing, and re-writing this guy's resume and giving him a lot of job-hunting advice (and he ended up getting a really good management job elsewhere, maybe partly because of my help). If I hadn't edited the hell out of that resume, he'd have never gotten an interview, because it was obviously the work of a semi-literate person.

So did I ever get one word of thanks from this good Christian? Ha!

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Response to klook (Reply #10)

Thu Jul 19, 2012, 09:59 AM

12. Yes, I usually avoid religious discussions as well as political discussions.

There are some things that my co-workers don't know about me and my opinions/beliefs and It's just easier that way.

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Original post)

Thu Jul 19, 2012, 09:54 AM

11. Nice jab. Good on you.

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Original post)

Thu Jul 19, 2012, 10:05 AM

13. Great guys? They'd have to be some damn charming motherfuckers to off set

the Reich Wing talking points and being so much dumber than dogshit to dare think Phailin has any intellect to speak of beyond grifter shrewdness and raw ambition.

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Response to TheKentuckian (Reply #13)

Thu Jul 19, 2012, 10:34 AM

17. Actually, they are great guys, as long as you keep the conversation away from politics.

One is my boss, who is fair and generous to his employees, scrupulously honest in his dealings with customers/suppliers/subcontractors and is well liked and respected by other people in the community he comes in contact with. I've worked for him for 18 years and consider him a friend. We just don't hold the same political opinions and, for the most part, have agreed to disagree.

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Response to TheKentuckian (Reply #13)

Thu Jul 19, 2012, 10:48 AM

21. Well, we gotta be talking about one charming motherfucking pig. I mean he'd have to be ten times

more charming than that Arnold on Green Acres, you know.

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Original post)

Thu Jul 19, 2012, 10:16 AM

14. That sounds like Northwest Arkansas

I swear, that part of the state would vote for Hitler if he had an "R" by his name.

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Response to Art_from_Ark (Reply #14)

Thu Jul 19, 2012, 10:27 AM

15. Actually, West Central Arkansas, on the Oklahoma border. It's really red around here.

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Reply #15)

Thu Jul 19, 2012, 10:32 AM

16. South of Fort Smith?

Scott County, or thereabouts?

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Response to Art_from_Ark (Reply #16)

Thu Jul 19, 2012, 10:35 AM

18. Fort Smith, Sebastian County.

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Reply #18)

Thu Jul 19, 2012, 10:51 AM

23. When I was a kid, the Fort Smith TV station,

KFSA (the predecessor of KFSM), referred to Fort Smith as being in Northwest Arkansas. So my image of Sebastian County has always been one of being included in Northwest Arkansas. But apparently it is now "Arkansas River Valley" or "Western Arkansas"

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Reply #18)

Thu Jul 19, 2012, 11:18 AM

26. Anyway, I don't know why Fort Smith is so conservative

It's been that way for a while too-- in fact, it was the city that gave John Paul Hammerschmidt his victory over a political upstart named Bill Clinton in the 1974 3rd District Congressional election. Probably the only squeaker election Hammerschmidt ever had, and the only chance we've really had to have a Democrat representing the 3rd District in 40+ years, although maybe we have a chance to win it this year?

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Original post)

Thu Jul 19, 2012, 10:44 AM

20. Ummm....I do believe they're looking with the "other" head.

Seriously.

Why the Teabagger and Fundie ladies love her........aspirations?

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Response to nc4bo (Reply #20)

Thu Jul 19, 2012, 10:55 AM

24. ha...

I think you pegged it.

I'm not sure that the teaparty/fundie ladies really love her, they love the aggressive and angry attitude she promotes. I think it resonates with the anger and frustration simmering inside them.

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Original post)

Thu Jul 19, 2012, 10:50 AM

22. all Sarah Palin had going for her was her looks-

my young adult son said to me the other day, "Palin's only asset is her shell, If she looked like Janet Reno she would be nobody".

I believe he's absolutely right- She doesn't have much else to offer. Being physically atractive shouldn't be a hinderance to success, but when it is pretty much all you have to offer it doesn't qualify you to be governor, much less vice president.

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Response to Bluerthanblue (Reply #22)

Thu Jul 19, 2012, 11:03 AM

25. I think your son has it exactly right.

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Original post)

Thu Jul 19, 2012, 11:50 AM

28. These are the types who stood in line to vote like Palin was behind that curtain pulling a train.

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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #28)

Thu Jul 19, 2012, 12:09 PM

30. I haven't heard that expression in a while, but you're right.

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Reply #30)

Thu Jul 19, 2012, 12:12 PM

31. The followup is they punched the chad with their needle dick.

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Original post)

Thu Jul 19, 2012, 11:52 AM

29. BTW: Do any of these guys know any women?

Or are they just something theoretical?

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