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DCBob

(24,689 posts)
Mon Dec 12, 2011, 08:21 PM Dec 2011

Democrats refuse to compromise with the Republicans to get a payroll tax cut deal.

from Bloomberg..

Democratic leaders in the U.S. Senate are hardening their opposition to a House Republican measure that would extend the payroll tax cut for workers while restructuring unemployment compensation and speeding approval of a Canadian oil pipeline.

Senator Richard Durbin of Illinois, the chamber’s No. 2 Democrat, said lawmakers must cover the cost of extending a payroll tax cut for workers with new revenue. Republicans have blocked Democratic proposals in the Senate to pay for the payroll tax cut by imposing a surtax on income exceeding $1 million a year.

“If we do pay for it, it’s going to be paid for with a revenue source, such as the millionaire’s tax,” Durbin said in an interview today. “It’s not going to be paid for with spending cuts.”

more: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-12-12/payroll-tax-cut-extension-measure-sets-up-dueling-votes-in-u-s-congress.html

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This is very good news. I think Democrats win this battle if they hold firm to this line.

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Democrats refuse to compromise with the Republicans to get a payroll tax cut deal. (Original Post) DCBob Dec 2011 OP
If they hold firm, there's no telling how much good will come out of it. CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2011 #1
IF. jannyk Dec 2011 #4
I hope Old Codger Dec 2011 #2
The Dem's have to stop giving in to blackmail. YOu cant negotiate with blackmailers and repukes. nm rhett o rick Dec 2011 #3
Agreed. Especially in this situation. DCBob Dec 2011 #13
End blackmail now. julian09 Dec 2011 #16
My peranoia makes me wonder why the Dem's arent doing this. rhett o rick Dec 2011 #18
"Democrats refuse to compromise" is an odd way to phrase it, IMO. WinkyDink Dec 2011 #5
anything to make the democrats appear unreasonable spanone Dec 2011 #8
Actually I meant it as a positive thing. DCBob Dec 2011 #17
I took it as a positive thing. nm rhett o rick Dec 2011 #20
It sure does, that is the truth...nt. Stuart G Dec 2011 #21
I think its quite accurate. What would be your headline? DCBob Dec 2011 #10
"democrats honor their values by refusing republican extortion demands" nt msongs Dec 2011 #11
Not bad. I like it. DCBob Dec 2011 #14
"Refuse to capitulate"? "Refuse to compromise" has a negative connotation. WinkyDink Dec 2011 #23
I don't speak for everyone gratuitous Dec 2011 #6
bu$h* tax cuts are not funded. spanone Dec 2011 #7
Good. Drahthaardogs Dec 2011 #9
The DEMs are showing REASON and SPINE...a Combo of the Best Kine opihimoimoi Dec 2011 #12
Good on them. See, that wasn't so hard. mmonk Dec 2011 #15
Means test SS and Medicare HeyHeymymy Dec 2011 #19
Medicare Premiums are already higher for higher incomes Bluenorthwest Dec 2011 #22
A spine! Cool. mmonk Dec 2011 #24

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,574 posts)
1. If they hold firm, there's no telling how much good will come out of it.
Mon Dec 12, 2011, 08:23 PM
Dec 2011

A little spine, if you please, good Senators!

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
3. The Dem's have to stop giving in to blackmail. YOu cant negotiate with blackmailers and repukes. nm
Mon Dec 12, 2011, 08:25 PM
Dec 2011
 

julian09

(1,435 posts)
16. End blackmail now.
Mon Dec 12, 2011, 08:41 PM
Dec 2011

They only encourage more demands and subvert the negotiating process. Better to lose a battle to fight another day, than surrender.
Make the Gop filibuster and face the consequences.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
18. My peranoia makes me wonder why the Dem's arent doing this.
Mon Dec 12, 2011, 09:41 PM
Dec 2011

Why wont they try to embarrass the repukes and force the filibuster?

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
17. Actually I meant it as a positive thing.
Mon Dec 12, 2011, 08:43 PM
Dec 2011

Compromising with Republicans usually means Democrats and regular folks get screwed.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
6. I don't speak for everyone
Mon Dec 12, 2011, 08:28 PM
Dec 2011

But for myself, I'm okay with a reversion to the pre-2001 tax rates, back when we were covering our expenses and reducing the national debt. Back in the days when we weren't paying for two illegal occupations. Anyone remember that time? There was even some loose talk about the "perils" of completely retiring the nation's debt. Can you imagine a country that could build a new, modern school with all the latest bells and whistles to educate students whenever and wherever it wanted to? Pay teachers a salay commensurate with their professional qualifications? Build and maintain good roads? Build and maintain mass transit systems, including high-speed rail lines? It could be an American renaissance!

Naahhhh!

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
22. Medicare Premiums are already higher for higher incomes
Tue Dec 13, 2011, 10:55 AM
Dec 2011

And all who get Medicare pay for it, it is not free to any participant. Social Security means testing is just a terrible idea for so many reasons, and most of this community knows all of those reasons. Enjoy!

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