Mon Jul 16, 2012, 08:45 PM

Zalatix (8,994 posts)

'Made In America' Policies Hugely Popular, Survey Shows. Free traders, CAN YOU HEAR US NOW???

http://news.yahoo.com/made-america-policies-hugely-popular-survey-shows-210425838--abc-news-politics.html

While President Obama and Mitt Romney bicker over whose policies will send more jobs overseas, there is one side of the job creation coin that both candidates agree on: that the government should do its darndest to keep manufacturing jobs in America.

Unlike many of the job proposals both candidates are pushing, "Buy America" policies that encourage the government to buy products that are made in the U.S. whenever possible are hugely popular across party lines, according to a national survey commissioned by the Alliance for American Manufacturing and the United Steelworkers.

"On the federal level if we can expose where we can see tax dollars leaking overseas we can reverse it because there is the political will to do that," said Scott Paul, the executive director of the Alliance for American Manufacturing.

Overwhelming majorities of people from all political parties said they supported "Buy America" policies that would mandate that taxpayer money can only be used on goods that were made in America.

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'Made In America' Policies Hugely Popular, Survey Shows. Free traders, CAN YOU HEAR US NOW??? (Original post)	Zalatix	Jul 2012	OP
every time I read "Free Trader" I think, "Free Traitor"	fascisthunter	Jul 2012	#1
Same here n/t	OhioChick	Jul 2012	#4
+1,000	Scuba	Jul 2012	#8
Well I'm voting for a pro-NAFTA guy in November.	Nye Bevan	Jul 2012	#13
Which one?	Dragonfli	Jul 2012	#19
I know I'm going out on a limb here compared with most of DU,	Nye Bevan	Jul 2012	#22
History has proven Al Gore wrong. That's easy to see, with hindsight, and Al won't mention NAFTA,	Romulox	Jul 2012	#24
Yeah. The "giant sucking sound" sure has sucked a lot of jobs out of	amandabeech	Jul 2012	#33
yes, Obama.... but free trade still sucks	fascisthunter	Jul 2012	#68
It is no accident that the free trade apologists	woo me with science	Jul 2012	#20
What if one is pro-trade but anti-"indefinite detention, warrantless surveillance, attacks on Occupy	pampango	Jul 2012	#21
Anyone who reads DU and the news on a regular basis	woo me with science	Jul 2012	#30
As you have been told previously, FDR reversed course..	girl gone mad	Jul 2012	#67
Absolutely. They all seem to go hand-in-hand.	Marr	Jul 2012	#32
they are right wingers as far as I am concerned	fascisthunter	Jul 2012	#69
Others might call them Kool-aid drinkers, since it sounds	hughee99	Jul 2012	#74
when he backs right leaning policies	fascisthunter	Jul 2012	#86
Yes, but if Obama switched positions on all of the above,	hughee99	Jul 2012	#87
Well said. I think you have articulated what a lot of people have	sabrina 1	Jul 2012	#92
And not just manufacturing jobs!	arcane1	Jul 2012	#2
Thanks for posting	Omaha Steve	Jul 2012	#3
1890	orpupilofnature57	Jul 2012	#5
'Hugely popular' in theory. But the reality is that people don't buy American in great numbers.	randome	Jul 2012	#6
This is why you need policies to support domestic industry - otherwise it's a race to the bottom.	reformist2	Jul 2012	#9
Lack of alternatives.	Zalatix	Jul 2012	#10
They sell out at fast as we get them in stock.	xmas74	Jul 2012	#65
We always look at country of origin, and if there IS a "made in America" option, we buy it.	peacebird	Jul 2012	#11
No one has enough money to vote with their wallet. nt	Comrade_McKenzie	Jul 2012	#14
that's what national policy is for. you enact policies that make it cheaper for domestic producers	HiPointDem	Jul 2012	#18
I agree with what you guys are saying about setting the right policy.	randome	Jul 2012	#25
AFL-CIO and labor groups are providing Made in America Lists	jtown1123	Jul 2012	#66
You were saying?	Zalatix	Jul 2012	#97
If the TPP is enacted "Buy American" will be illegal	Vincardog	Jul 2012	#7
Both of my family's vehicles were made in America.	Nye Bevan	Jul 2012	#12
I don't want it all "Made in America".	raouldukelives	Jul 2012	#15
Well That Eliminates Ford, GM, Chrysler, MicroSoft, Apple, Nike....	momsadem	Jul 2012	#16
Time to reopen those domestic factories.	Zalatix	Jul 2012	#23
I would prefer to concentrate on opening high skilled high tech production here and leave	grantcart	Jul 2012	#27
No. Not just no, but HELL no.	Zalatix	Jul 2012	#31
Not me. If I'm buying "high tech" goods, the LAST thing I want to see is "Made in Mississippi".	Romulox	Jul 2012	#35
Many Ford and GM vehicles are assembled in the US and have many US made parts.	amandabeech	Jul 2012	#34
This post is 100% nonsense. It's just what Toyota drivers tell themselves to feel better. nt	Romulox	Jul 2012	#36
No Romulex, you're wrong. It's not "Nonsense"	momsadem	Jul 2012	#37
Way to walk it back! Just upthread, you said: "Well That Eliminates Ford, GM, Chrysler". Nonsense.	Romulox	Jul 2012	#61
kr.	HiPointDem	Jul 2012	#17
Nonsense. Well over 50% of the cars sold in this country are foreign nameplates.	Romulox	Jul 2012	#26
Made in the USA for American markets by either foreign or domestic companies, not a problem.	Zalatix	Jul 2012	#42
Union? Whatever (I guess???)!	Romulox	Jul 2012	#60
Why not? Unions rock.	Zalatix	Jul 2012	#71
Not a single of foreign car companies that assemble in the US are unionized. Hard to spin that.	Romulox	Jul 2012	#72
True. It's better than assembling them in Mexico or China.	Zalatix	Jul 2012	#75
Plenty of cars made in the USA by UAW workers. It's hard to justify a scab car, period. nt	Romulox	Jul 2012	#77
I was saying they also need to make the car parts here.	Zalatix	Jul 2012	#78
They should have done this long ago	Marrah_G	Jul 2012	#28
Hint, hint....	Lionessa	Jul 2012	#29
Buy American won't be popular	SickOfTheOnePct	Jul 2012	#38
This message was hidden by jury decision.	Odin2005	Jul 2012	#40
You know	SickOfTheOnePct	Jul 2012	#43
And we're sick of your US Chamber of Commerce-approved arguments.	Zalatix	Jul 2012	#46
It's not Chamber of Commerce to state the fact that U.S goods are often more expensive	SickOfTheOnePct	Jul 2012	#48
It is a US Chamber of Commerce argument because it is a half-truth at best.	Zalatix	Jul 2012	#51
Buy American is popular because people have seen the horrible cost of NOT hiring Americans.	Zalatix	Jul 2012	#41
My response to Odin2005 applies to you as well	SickOfTheOnePct	Jul 2012	#44
Your hackneyed and horribly inaccurate arguments are getting old. So, again, we are even.	Zalatix	Jul 2012	#47
Show me where I made a pro-offshoring statement	SickOfTheOnePct	Jul 2012	#50
You said it right here, twice.	Zalatix	Jul 2012	#52
It's amazing how many times you can be wrong in one thread	SickOfTheOnePct	Jul 2012	#53
It's amazing how many times you can refuse to own up to what you said.	Zalatix	Jul 2012	#55
You're wrong again, but keep on tryiing	SickOfTheOnePct	Jul 2012	#56
You're still in denial. And now you're being dishonest.	Zalatix	Jul 2012	#57
What is old about $8 is more than $5?	treestar	Jul 2012	#80
It is an old smokescreen tactic, and a half-truth at that.	Zalatix	Jul 2012	#83
Are you in agreement with point 5?	treestar	Jul 2012	#90
Do you really have to ask if I approve of what happened in #5? Really?	Zalatix	Jul 2012	#91
At this point you're agreeing with me	treestar	Jul 2012	#93
It doesn't bother me if we're agreeing on some things.	Zalatix	Jul 2012	#94
Rec	Sea-Dog	Jul 2012	#70
China and others already have tariffs against us. Plus they devalue their currency.	Zalatix	Jul 2012	#73
btw your saying its ok for trade barriers not us	Sea-Dog	Jul 2012	#95
Trade barriers have happened.	Zalatix	Jul 2012	#96
The Free Traders will do what they usually do, scream "racist" and "xenophobe".	Odin2005	Jul 2012	#39
A little hyper-sensitive there. I see the accusation of the use of "racist" and "xenophobe" by	pampango	Jul 2012	#49
So you deny that free traders have used that accusation? Really?	Zalatix	Jul 2012	#54
Uh, you are one of the Free Traders who imply that Protectionism is xenophobic.	Odin2005	Jul 2012	#59
What's funny? NOBODY mentioned you, but you still managed to appear to take offense.	Romulox	Jul 2012	#63
Like someone else here once said, throw a tennis ball into a pack of dogs	Zalatix	Jul 2012	#79
that depends on how it is expressed	treestar	Jul 2012	#81
Again, Obama not clean. But Mr. Clean when compared to alternative.	Zax2me	Jul 2012	#45
He needs to summon the ghosts of Teddy Roosevelt and FDR.	Zalatix	Jul 2012	#58
The Obama admin gave HALF A BILLION $$$ to Fisker to make cars in Finland.	Romulox	Jul 2012	#62
Fair Trade please.	ananda	Jul 2012	#64
It only works if we actually buy American.	aquart	Jul 2012	#76
It's damn near impossible, too	treestar	Jul 2012	#82
Catch-22. People lose jobs because of outsourcing. Can't afford to buy American because too costly.	Tierra_y_Libertad	Jul 2012	#84
This is also why the Government fights wage increases for foreigners.	Zalatix	Jul 2012	#85
"Workers of the WORLD unite" is still something to strive for.	Tierra_y_Libertad	Jul 2012	#88
Hard to do when the free traders are saying "but things will cost more if we do that!"	Zalatix	Jul 2012	#89

Response to Zalatix (Original post)

Mon Jul 16, 2012, 08:51 PM

fascisthunter (28,608 posts)

'Made In America' Policies Hugely Popular, Survey Shows. Free traders, CAN YOU HEAR US NOW???

1. every time I read "Free Trader" I think, "Free Traitor"

4. Same here n/t

8. +1,000

13. Well I'm voting for a pro-NAFTA guy in November.

19. Which one?

22. I know I'm going out on a limb here compared with most of DU,

24. History has proven Al Gore wrong. That's easy to see, with hindsight, and Al won't mention NAFTA,

33. Yeah. The "giant sucking sound" sure has sucked a lot of jobs out of

68. yes, Obama.... but free trade still sucks

20. It is no accident that the free trade apologists

21. What if one is pro-trade but anti-"indefinite detention, warrantless surveillance, attacks on Occupy

30. Anyone who reads DU *and* the news on a regular basis

67. As you have been told previously, FDR reversed course..

32. Absolutely. They all seem to go hand-in-hand.

69. they are right wingers as far as I am concerned

74. Others might call them Kool-aid drinkers, since it sounds

86. when he backs right leaning policies

87. Yes, but if Obama switched positions on all of the above,

92. Well said. I think you have articulated what a lot of people have

2. And not just manufacturing jobs!

3. Thanks for posting

5. 1890

6. 'Hugely popular' in theory. But the reality is that people don't buy American in great numbers.

9. This is why you need policies to support domestic industry - otherwise it's a race to the bottom.

10. Lack of alternatives.

65. They sell out at fast as we get them in stock.

11. We always look at country of origin, and if there IS a "made in America" option, we buy it.

14. No one has enough money to vote with their wallet. nt

18. that's what national policy is for. you enact policies that make it cheaper for domestic producers

25. I agree with what you guys are saying about setting the right policy.

66. AFL-CIO and labor groups are providing Made in America Lists

97. You were saying?

7. If the TPP is enacted "Buy American" will be illegal

12. Both of my family's vehicles were made in America.

15. I don't want it all "Made in America".

16. Well That Eliminates Ford, GM, Chrysler, MicroSoft, Apple, Nike....

23. Time to reopen those domestic factories.

27. I would prefer to concentrate on opening high skilled high tech production here and leave

31. No. Not just no, but HELL no.

35. Not me. If I'm buying "high tech" goods, the LAST thing I want to see is "Made in Mississippi".

34. Many Ford and GM vehicles are assembled in the US and have many US made parts.

36. This post is 100% nonsense. It's just what Toyota drivers tell themselves to feel better. nt

37. No Romulex, you're wrong. It's not "Nonsense"

61. Way to walk it back! Just upthread, you said: "Well That Eliminates Ford, GM, Chrysler". Nonsense.

17. kr.

26. Nonsense. Well over 50% of the cars sold in this country are foreign nameplates.

42. Made in the USA for American markets by either foreign or domestic companies, not a problem.

60. Union? Whatever (I guess???)!

71. Why not? Unions rock.

72. Not a single of foreign car companies that assemble in the US are unionized. Hard to spin that.

75. True. It's better than assembling them in Mexico or China.

77. Plenty of cars made in the USA by UAW workers. It's hard to justify a scab car, period. nt

78. I was saying they also need to make the car parts here.

28. They should have done this long ago

29. Hint, hint....

38. Buy American won't be popular

43. You know

46. And we're sick of your US Chamber of Commerce-approved arguments.

48. It's not Chamber of Commerce to state the fact that U.S goods are often more expensive

51. It is a US Chamber of Commerce argument because it is a half-truth at best.

41. Buy American is popular because people have seen the horrible cost of NOT hiring Americans.

44. My response to Odin2005 applies to you as well

47. Your hackneyed and horribly inaccurate arguments are getting old. So, again, we are even.

50. Show me where I made a pro-offshoring statement

52. You said it right here, twice.

53. It's amazing how many times you can be wrong in one thread

55. It's amazing how many times you can refuse to own up to what you said.

56. You're wrong again, but keep on tryiing

57. You're still in denial. And now you're being dishonest.

80. What is old about $8 is more than $5?

83. It is an old smokescreen tactic, and a half-truth at that.

90. Are you in agreement with point 5?

91. Do you really have to ask if I approve of what happened in #5? Really?

93. At this point you're agreeing with me

94. It doesn't bother me if we're agreeing on some things.

70. Rec

73. China and others already have tariffs against us. Plus they devalue their currency.

95. btw your saying its ok for trade barriers not us

96. Trade barriers have happened.

30. Anyone who reads DU and the news on a regular basis