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Hey Dan Senor (Rmoney's campaign chairman) (Original Post) malaise Jul 2012 OP
The tone of Joe cum's voice this morning is all the malaise Jul 2012 #1
Why isn't Karl Rove riding to the rescue? kentuck Jul 2012 #2
The ReTHUG primaries set the stage for this feast malaise Jul 2012 #4
Up next; Kevin Madden, Romney Sr. Advisor. Atman Jul 2012 #3
This is one time I'm delighted to see ReTHUGs malaise Jul 2012 #5
Both of Romney's Senior people on the panel? Atman Jul 2012 #6
No Mica just played that ad malaise Jul 2012 #8
I think Scum is currently in that fetal position he loves to refer to, when talking about that CTyankee Jul 2012 #29
Oh shit Joe Scum says ReTHUGs chose a curiious candidate malaise Jul 2012 #7
Here it goes...the set up for the attack Atman Jul 2012 #9
It's not working malaise Jul 2012 #10
Kevin just dug a bigger hole malaise Jul 2012 #11
That was a thing of beauty!!! Tennessee Gal Jul 2012 #13
Now you know why the $85 million quick calculation dug a deeper hole malaise Jul 2012 #24
wasn't it 8%? That Brian guy looked perplexed at Madden. CTyankee Jul 2012 #21
It's fun to watch malaise Jul 2012 #22
I was actually embarrassed for the repukes this morning, so I bailed out before the "scandal." CTyankee Jul 2012 #25
I'm lovin' it malaise Jul 2012 #28
And Getting No Traction... KharmaTrain Jul 2012 #12
HOw long is this going to go on? kentuck Jul 2012 #14
Worst...Surrogates...Ever... KharmaTrain Jul 2012 #15
That killed the argument... Atman Jul 2012 #17
Must read malaise Jul 2012 #26
Am I the only one who thinks Madden looks like a fast talking con guy? CTyankee Jul 2012 #23
Very well said malaise Jul 2012 #16
Is Romney's charitable donation just the money he gave to the Mormon church? GreatCaesarsGhost Jul 2012 #18
senor just said Dalai_1 Jul 2012 #19
But what did Willard tell the folks in Boston malaise Jul 2012 #20
senor is a pos. spanone Jul 2012 #27

malaise

(268,858 posts)
1. The tone of Joe cum's voice this morning is all the
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 06:52 AM
Jul 2012

proof we need to know that ReTHUGs are worried shitless.

malaise

(268,858 posts)
4. The ReTHUG primaries set the stage for this feast
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 07:00 AM
Jul 2012

It's way too late for Rove to help Rmoney.
What's more Gillespie's 'retroactively' shit yesterday made it much worse. If he retired retroactively then he was there after 1999.

malaise

(268,858 posts)
5. This is one time I'm delighted to see ReTHUGs
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 07:02 AM
Jul 2012

Let them defend this.

Even Mica got the joke with that 'retired retroactively'.

Atman

(31,464 posts)
6. Both of Romney's Senior people on the panel?
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 07:10 AM
Jul 2012

Against Joe Klein and an occasional giggle from Mika? Please.

malaise

(268,858 posts)
8. No Mica just played that ad
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 07:16 AM
Jul 2012

That was devastating - Joe Scum says it was a very effective ad.

They are fucked.

CTyankee

(63,900 posts)
29. I think Scum is currently in that fetal position he loves to refer to, when talking about that
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 09:03 AM
Jul 2012

Dem mayor of New Orleans during Katrina. It always makes me mad. Now Joe is curled up in a ball over his doomed party. I hope he enjoys it cuz it's gonna be a long stretch til Nov. 6....

Atman

(31,464 posts)
9. Here it goes...the set up for the attack
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 07:19 AM
Jul 2012

We heard about this last night, how Romney's campaign was going on a counter-offensive against the me Obama ad by accusing Obama of pay offs and cronyism. BOOM! Now we know why BOTH Romney advisors are on Morning Joe. The perfect kick-off.

malaise

(268,858 posts)
11. Kevin just dug a bigger hole
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 07:24 AM
Jul 2012

Rmoney paid even less in taxes than they were saying - did you see his face after that quick calculation?

malaise

(268,858 posts)
24. Now you know why the $85 million quick calculation dug a deeper hole
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 08:47 AM
Jul 2012
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002956061

But what information could the earlier tax returns contain that would be so damaging if it were brought out into the open? Obviously, we are entering the realm of speculation, but Romney has invited it. Here are four possibilities:

1. Extremely high levels of income. According to the tax filings and estimates he released earlier this year, Romney earned about $21.7 million in 2010 and $20.9 million in 2010—most of it from capital gains on investments related to Bain Capital. This is a lot of money, but Romney may well have earned considerably more in earlier years. His ten-year severance agreement with Bain Capital ended in 2009. The terms of it haven’t been revealed, but quite probably it allowed Romney to keep pocketing a substantial portion of the firm’s profits. And the years before 2008 were massively successful ones for Bain and other private-equity firms.


Rmoney lied about his income????

CTyankee

(63,900 posts)
21. wasn't it 8%? That Brian guy looked perplexed at Madden.
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 08:34 AM
Jul 2012

He was trying to do the math and Madden just dissed him...

Joe Scum looks so far down in the dumps he can't get much lower.

malaise

(268,858 posts)
22. It's fun to watch
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 08:36 AM
Jul 2012

Notice how the Hill guy has come on to rescue them with a scandal -these fuggers should be aware that it is only the most political of folks who watch/listen to the show

CTyankee

(63,900 posts)
25. I was actually embarrassed for the repukes this morning, so I bailed out before the "scandal."
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 08:49 AM
Jul 2012

That whole Senor, Madden, Brian interplay, plus Joe's rotten mood and poor loser demeanor, made for a truly depressing performance for the Romney defenders. The spinning was getting too strenuous...

KharmaTrain

(31,706 posts)
12. And Getting No Traction...
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 07:29 AM
Jul 2012

Senor looked the fool he is as he keeps screaming the talking point de jour "Obama lost jobs" (a lie, but that never stops Senor...Rover taught him well). Thank goodness they got Harold Ford out of there...and Madden and Senor look desperate to talk about anything than the taxes.

Even Joke Line...err Joe Klein isn't putting up with their talking points today. Until Willard releases his taxes the drip drip drip will go on...

kentuck

(111,074 posts)
14. HOw long is this going to go on?
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 07:32 AM
Jul 2012

Senor asks, in regards to the tax returns?

Until Romney releases his tax returns. I thought I saw Senor physically deflate??

KharmaTrain

(31,706 posts)
15. Worst...Surrogates...Ever...
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 07:42 AM
Jul 2012

Yesterday Stephanie Cutler ate Madden's lunch on ABC and this morning he was stammering with Mika and Klein. As Malaise noted above he almost made things worse. Note he admitted the less than 14% number and for the first time someone mentioned that there's a good chance Willard paid ZERO taxes for some (many) years. Madden threw the $8 mil in taxes and then tried to inflate them with "charitable donation" to get to the 14%...wonder if anyone caught that...

Atman

(31,464 posts)
17. That killed the argument...
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 07:47 AM
Jul 2012

...because the other guy was able to do a quick calculation that, given the numbers Madden just provided, Romney's tax rate actually worked out to 8%, not 14%. Madden tried briefly to push back, but was met with a shrug and "Well, it's just in the numbers."

Okay, I admit, it went better than I thought it would. This did not help Romney at all.

malaise

(268,858 posts)
26. Must read
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 08:49 AM
Jul 2012
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/johncassidy/2012/07/why-wont-romney-release-more-tax-returns.html
<snip>
4. A very, very low tax rate. Romney’s filings indicate that his effective federal income-tax rate in 2010 was 13.9 per cent, and his estimated rate for 2011 is 15.4 per cent. Those figures reflect the fifteen-per-cent tax rate on capital gains and dividend income. But it is perfectly possible that in earlier years he paid even lower rates. Since his 2010 and 2011 returns were prepared during an election campaign, it seems likely that his accountants took a conservative approach to deductions and other aspects of his finances. In prior years, they may well have been more aggressive. And maybe at some point Romney suffered some investment losses that enabled him to reduce his tax burden in subsequent years. Obviously, we don’t know. But there may have been a year in which Romney’s federal tax rate was in the single figures, and possibly even close to zero.

This seems pretty unlikely. But, hey, as Matthew Dowd noted, “there’s obviously something there, because if there was nothing there, he would say, ‘Have at it.’ ”

Read more http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/johncassidy/2012/07/why-wont-romney-release-more-tax-returns.html#ixzz20nFISJ3S

CTyankee

(63,900 posts)
23. Am I the only one who thinks Madden looks like a fast talking con guy?
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 08:38 AM
Jul 2012

All those brilliant white teeth...right out of Central Casting...

Dalai_1

(1,301 posts)
19. senor just said
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 08:11 AM
Jul 2012

rmoney was at the olympics working 16 hours a day and could not get back(to Bain)...sooo
what on earth would he do as president if he can not manage his time and responsibilities
better than that...what on earth did he do 16 hours a day? I have heard nothing with
regard to how hard he worked at any time (as far as hours)

malaise

(268,858 posts)
20. But what did Willard tell the folks in Boston
Mon Jul 16, 2012, 08:14 AM
Jul 2012

We all know both cannot be true. They are in a deep hole.

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