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IndyPragmatist123

(42 posts)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 09:11 AM Jul 2012

Condi is rumored to be a top pick for Romney VP

Condoleezza Rice is latest name to spark Mitt Romney Veepstakes buzz

The Drudge Report stirred up the latest buzz Thursday night by reporting that Romney is seriously considering the former Secretary of State as a potential running mate..

The latest subject of Mitt Romney’s Veepstakes speculation is a familiar face and someone who insists she doesn’t want the job: Condoleezza Rice.

The Drudge Report stirred up the latest buzz Thursday night by reporting that Romney is seriously considering Rice as a potential running mate.

Drudge noted that Rice spoke at a gathering of top Romney donors in Utah last month, where she received two standing ovations from an adoring crowd. He said she also emailed supporters in recent days that the 2012 elections “loom as one of the most important in my lifetime."

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/election-2012/condoleezza-rice-latest-spark-mitt-romney-veepstakes-buzz-article-1.1113639

Their source is the Drudge Report, so it's not really the most reliable source, but it's interesting nonetheless. I have to wonder how much race played into this. Anytime someone criticizes a Republican for being racist, they can come back with "Nu uh, we have a black VP."

I actually got to meet Mrs. Rice during the Super Bowl this year. She is an incredibly nice and sincere person. I hate much of her policy, but it's much more difficult to hate her after spending 15 minutes talking to her. I do find it surprising that Romney would consider bringing in someone from the Bush administration. I would think that he would want to distance himself as much as possible from Bush. However, Condi seems to be the one person who escaped much of the criticism of the Bush administration.
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Condi is rumored to be a top pick for Romney VP (Original Post) IndyPragmatist123 Jul 2012 OP
It's a "political" fit, if nothing else. Curtland1015 Jul 2012 #1
It's Wayyy More Than a "Political Fit" Iggy Jul 2012 #36
This nobodyspecial Jul 2012 #41
Nice try, but TheCowsCameHome Jul 2012 #2
Bull. nt onehandle Jul 2012 #3
I think at this point she might be their best choice Marrah_G Jul 2012 #4
The RW will vote R anyway, he needs someone to appeal to swing voters Lex Jul 2012 #6
I think she appeals to moderates more than anyone else in the picture IndyPragmatist123 Jul 2012 #17
No, she is reminder to everyone (but hardcore Rs) of 9/11 and Bush's disasterous terms. Lex Jul 2012 #20
Would a racist Republican vote for a Romney/Rice ticket? (nt) Nye Bevan Jul 2012 #5
Over Obama? Certainly. Curtland1015 Jul 2012 #7
Of course IndyPragmatist123 Jul 2012 #9
Perhaps race isn't the primary motivating factor to the average Republican? Is that possible? nt Romulox Jul 2012 #18
I think you are correct. Nye Bevan Jul 2012 #21
My thought is that the racist rubes are *controlled* by the powers that run the Republican Party. Romulox Jul 2012 #22
....and tell me Ms Rice, what was the title of that August 6th PDB? pkdu Jul 2012 #8
Anybody touted this early can be removed from the list. LonePirate Jul 2012 #10
The NM governor has said she won't accept maryellen99 Jul 2012 #24
Never Happen... Pilotguy Jul 2012 #11
So What? Iggy Jul 2012 #43
This is a feint by the Romney camp as a feeble attempt at relieving the Bain pain. n/t GarroHorus Jul 2012 #12
Does that mean Mitt isn't racist flamingdem Jul 2012 #13
Not a chance. This is an attempt to distract the M$M from the Bain/SEC lies going into the weekend.. truebrit71 Jul 2012 #14
she only a distraction warrior1 Jul 2012 #15
I think there is a very good chance Condi is the pick. Those who say it's impossible Romulox Jul 2012 #16
There are two problems though. NYC Liberal Jul 2012 #29
Whole Cylon ticket get the red out Jul 2012 #19
Pretty sure Condi is pro-choice. I hope he does it and really pisses off the RW base! NYC Liberal Jul 2012 #23
How can he even be considered Pro Life maryellen99 Jul 2012 #25
Condi was also a music major and was mentored in to her career by Madeline Albright's father! cascadiance Jul 2012 #30
That and the rumors of her being gay (that go back to her days at Stanford as provost). NYC Liberal Jul 2012 #39
Dog whistle to suburban white women. cap Jul 2012 #26
Osama is dead cap Jul 2012 #28
The key word is "rumored." Not gonna happen. Atman Jul 2012 #27
Oh, and she is pro-choice. Atman Jul 2012 #33
Picking a VP who is less human and relatable than himself? XemaSab Jul 2012 #31
He won't do that but I wish he would tularetom Jul 2012 #32
not a chance.... Duppers Jul 2012 #34
She Brings All of Those Bush Foreign Policy Blunders with Her Yavin4 Jul 2012 #35
No way that would happen n2doc Jul 2012 #37
Depends. *If* a black conservative is batshit crazy enough, they'll gladly overlook his skin. Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2012 #42
VP of what? LiberalFighter Jul 2012 #38
If he does he's burned toast. MoonRiver Jul 2012 #40

Curtland1015

(4,404 posts)
1. It's a "political" fit, if nothing else.
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 09:15 AM
Jul 2012

Trying to snare some of the female undecided votes.

Granted that didn't work for them last time, but the Condi (as much as I hate to admit it) isn't the train wreck Palin is.

 

Iggy

(1,418 posts)
36. It's Wayyy More Than a "Political Fit"
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 10:20 AM
Jul 2012

Rice is a member of the inner circle.. i.e. the global business interests backing a certain family.
her name used to be on the side of an oil tanker-- that's how respected/recognized she is.

Having her as VP makes "perfect" sense.. it means Cheney would be in charge again

Lex

(34,108 posts)
6. The RW will vote R anyway, he needs someone to appeal to swing voters
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 09:18 AM
Jul 2012

and independents. That is where the race is won or lost. She will not appeal to them because she is a reminder of Bush and 9/11 and the Iraq mess.



17. I think she appeals to moderates more than anyone else in the picture
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 09:43 AM
Jul 2012

People like Condi. She has managed to escape a lot of the criticism of the Bush administration. She has great name recognition and helps Romney with the female vote.

Lex

(34,108 posts)
20. No, she is reminder to everyone (but hardcore Rs) of 9/11 and Bush's disasterous terms.
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 09:51 AM
Jul 2012

I'd be very surprised if Romney chose her.



9. Of course
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 09:20 AM
Jul 2012

It's a choice between a black man at #1 or a black woman at #2. They know Romney will make sure she knows her place.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
21. I think you are correct.
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 09:53 AM
Jul 2012

There are certainly racists among Republicans, but I think they are a small minority.

Romulox

(25,960 posts)
22. My thought is that the racist rubes are *controlled* by the powers that run the Republican Party.
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 09:54 AM
Jul 2012

But that the primary focus of the Republicans is appeasing international capital.

LonePirate

(13,417 posts)
10. Anybody touted this early can be removed from the list.
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 09:20 AM
Jul 2012

The NM governor heads my list of likely VP picks for Romney.

maryellen99

(3,788 posts)
24. The NM governor has said she won't accept
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 09:58 AM
Jul 2012

She is guardian to her special needs sister plus her father has Alzheimer's. She has said she doesn't want to put them through the stress of moving them to DC.

 

Iggy

(1,418 posts)
43. So What?
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 02:08 PM
Jul 2012

She can flip flop on this issue, just like Willlard.

it wouldn't be the first time she told a whopper

 

truebrit71

(20,805 posts)
14. Not a chance. This is an attempt to distract the M$M from the Bain/SEC lies going into the weekend..
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 09:38 AM
Jul 2012

...there is a better chance of ME being his pick than a BLACK WOMAN getting the nod...

If Mittens wants to shore up the rabid base he is going to have to make it a white, christian, male, southerner...

Romulox

(25,960 posts)
16. I think there is a very good chance Condi is the pick. Those who say it's impossible
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 09:43 AM
Jul 2012

(due to race) misread the politics of this matter.

The fact is, the Republican Party is the party of international capital and entrenched wealth. To the extent the Republicans deal in racial identity, it is an element of control over the plebes. The reason the Condi pick is so compelling is that it helps short-circuit the this precise narrative--i.e. that the Republicans are the "white guy" party.

I think Condi is Romney's Veep; it's "triangulation" at its very core.

NYC Liberal

(20,135 posts)
29. There are two problems though.
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 10:05 AM
Jul 2012

1. The Republicans in power might not personally give much of a crap about the lightning rod issues they use for political purposes (abortion, same-sex marriage, race, etc.), but their base of "the plebes" does care. And they're the ones who vote. Condi is pro-choice and there's no way Romney could sell that to the base when the base is already skeptical of Romney's own "creds" as a right-winger.

2. Picking Condi simply to try to prove the GOP is not a party of older white men will backfire for the same reason the Palin choice did (and the Michael Steele one as well): it will be seen as the blatantly obvious pandering move it is. Perhaps Condi wouldn't be seen as badly as Palin was because she isn't as dumb as a box of rocks and has real experience, but the GOP is so homogenous that it would look too much like obvious pandering.

All that doesn't mean he won't pick her though. I think he'll fall into the same trap that McCain did. Romney's campaign is not doing well and he's on the defensive constantly these days, so he'll feel the need to make a "Hail Mary" move. He'll start making even more dumb mistakes and moves in his attempt to dominate news cycles, just like McCain did.

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
30. Condi was also a music major and was mentored in to her career by Madeline Albright's father!
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 10:08 AM
Jul 2012

Josef Korbel, Madeline Albright's father, at Denver University encouraged Rice to switch from being a music major in to international studies there.

Do they want someone as VP who's a creation of significant Democrats? Don't think the tea partiers will like that.

NYC Liberal

(20,135 posts)
39. That and the rumors of her being gay (that go back to her days at Stanford as provost).
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 10:51 AM
Jul 2012

Whether it's true or not, in a national campaign those "rumors" will be resurrected. A black, pro-choice, possibly gay, woman? The right-wing bigots would go ape shit.

cap

(7,170 posts)
26. Dog whistle to suburban white women.
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 09:59 AM
Jul 2012

Ummm. No political constituency. African Americans won't desert Obama. No traction with Latinos.

Hate to see what happens to condi when Hillary starts talking about the elephant dung she had to hose off the world.

On the other hand, Romney aka dog on roof is known for being pretty lame and he might just do it . Wonder if he will strap condi on the roof of his car for a 12 hour drive.

Atman

(31,464 posts)
27. The key word is "rumored." Not gonna happen.
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 10:01 AM
Jul 2012

Way too much baggage. And the GOP only pretends to like blacks and women. But both in the same package? No way. Besides, at least they could argue that Sarah Palin was a beauty queen, and was "hot." But Condi? They have no excuse to like her.

Oh, and then there's the baggage.

.

Atman

(31,464 posts)
33. Oh, and she is pro-choice.
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 10:10 AM
Jul 2012

That's a game-killer right there. A black, female, pro-choice, Ivy League elitist. Nope. Now, try Larry the Cable Guy, and they might have a winner.

.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
32. He won't do that but I wish he would
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 10:10 AM
Jul 2012
"I don't think anybody could have predicted that ... they would try to use an ... as a missile ," National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice said Thursday.

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
37. No way that would happen
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 10:30 AM
Jul 2012

No way the racists in the GOP would accept having a ______ _______ that close to power. She's too 'uppety' anyway for them. Now Sarah, she was spunky and besides that she fulfilled certain 'fantasies' of theirs...

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,173 posts)
42. Depends. *If* a black conservative is batshit crazy enough, they'll gladly overlook his skin.
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 11:00 AM
Jul 2012

Exhibit A:

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For the conservatives, the handicap of being black is overcome by the fact that he hates Muslims with a bitter passion--he's just like us.

Plus, he gives them the benefit of walking him out to prove that:

a) We're not racist! We like a black man named Allen West!
b) You criticized Allen West? Why you are a racist, because that's what you always say whenever someone criticizes President Obama! (Never mind the whole birtherism/racist placards at tea party protests/"Don't Re-Nig in 2012" bumper stickers thing that is directed to Obama but not to West.)

LiberalFighter

(50,888 posts)
38. VP of what?
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 10:39 AM
Jul 2012

In charge of declaring war against Iran? Helping Romney send more jobs to China? Wearing dominatrix outfits?

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