Fri Jul 13, 2012, 12:48 AM
Fire Walk With Me (37,033 posts)
Occupy LA, Artwalk, strangers, in stand-off and attacks with riot police, livestream Graphic!Last edited Sat Jul 21, 2012, 04:22 PM USA/ET - Edit history (14)
There have been 11 or 12 arrests for using chalk on sidewalks and benches in LA despite a 9th circuit court judge having ruled that no chalk shall harm a sidewalk...this has not slowed down the police one bit. Tonight they wanted to join "Artwalk" and do civil disobedience chalking, and I can hear police helicopters.
More than four shots fired, note that none of them are Occupiers. The one on the phone was just going to a 7/11...
Photoset: http://www.flickr.com/photos/nohodamon/sets/72157630560888092/with/7563452964/ Chalk Walk: Drawing on Sidewalk With Washable Chalk Leads to Arrests!: Another pic: http://twitpic.com/a703xh LAPD HOTLINE 877-LAPD 247 877-527-3247 -=---- OO_Conference @oo_conference Non-occupy event #artwalk in LA now met with riot cops. General public now out facing cops. http://www.ustream.tv/channel/pmbeers http://globalrevolution.tv/ http://www.ustream.tv/channel/savagetruth Passer-by shot in the face by LAPD: ![]()
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| freshwest | Jul 2012 | #1 | |
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| limpyhobbler | Jul 2012 | #31 | |
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| limpyhobbler | Jul 2012 | #28 | |
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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Original post)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 12:54 AM
freshwest (31,429 posts)
1. What year was Skynet coming online, anyway?
Response to Fire Walk With Me (Original post)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 01:02 AM
Fire Walk With Me (37,033 posts)
2. Four shots have been fired upon the crowd, most likely from less-lethal shotguns.
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A green-stocked shotgun had been spotted earlier, which is "less-lethal" (yeah, that's what nearly killed Scott Olsen).
There has been no dispersal order! |
Response to Fire Walk With Me (Original post)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 01:27 AM
joshcryer (39,749 posts)
3. Did you get a screenshot of the snitch clown?
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Savagetruth claimed he pointed her out to the cops.
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Response to joshcryer (Reply #3)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 01:32 AM
Fire Walk With Me (37,033 posts)
6. I've been watching Patti's stream; she said a cop pointed her out as well.
Response to joshcryer (Reply #3)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 01:33 AM
Fire Walk With Me (37,033 posts)
7. So someone, not a cop, pointed her out to cops?
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If she was airing it, it's recorded and can be retrieved, analyzed, blown up, and shared.
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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Reply #7)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 01:35 AM
joshcryer (39,749 posts)
8. Yeah it was really blurry and choppy at the time. It was a guy dressed as a clown.
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He laughed her off but something about his posture. Liz really got him good, he was definitely being suspicious.
I would've got a screenshot but because the connection was bad I didn't see his face but for one frame, didn't have a chance to capture it. |
Response to Fire Walk With Me (Original post)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 01:31 AM
Fire Walk With Me (37,033 posts)
4. Link to LA ACTIVIST photo of cop line:
Response to Fire Walk With Me (Reply #4)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 01:37 AM
Fire Walk With Me (37,033 posts)
9. Another pic link:
Response to Fire Walk With Me (Original post)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 01:41 AM
limpyhobbler (6,651 posts)
10. rec'd
Response to Fire Walk With Me (Original post)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 01:43 AM
limpyhobbler (6,651 posts)
11. These people have live helicopter video
Response to limpyhobbler (Reply #11)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 01:50 AM
joshcryer (39,749 posts)
13. Thanks, the police just marched forward.
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Kettling time.
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Response to limpyhobbler (Reply #11)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 01:54 AM
Fire Walk With Me (37,033 posts)
16. Thanks, fuckers said "cops felt threatened", said "they should detain all protesters"...for CHALK???
Response to limpyhobbler (Reply #11)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 02:08 AM
Fire Walk With Me (37,033 posts)
17. Do you hear the BULLSHIT this asshole is saying!?
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AWESOME if it happens at 11PM...!
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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Reply #17)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 02:12 AM
limpyhobbler (6,651 posts)
18. Yeah I heard that a while back. My jaw dropped.
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I don't think he knows people can hear him.
Sometimes it sounds like he goes into broadcast mode when he knows he is live. |
Response to limpyhobbler (Reply #18)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 06:48 AM
Fire Walk With Me (37,033 posts)
49. Did you record it or know who may have/how to get it?
Response to Fire Walk With Me (Reply #49)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 08:19 AM
limpyhobbler (6,651 posts)
52. nope no clue. nt
Response to limpyhobbler (Reply #52)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 03:21 PM
Fire Walk With Me (37,033 posts)
54. No sweat, thanks!
Response to Fire Walk With Me (Reply #17)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 02:17 AM
joshcryer (39,749 posts)
20. He basically said it again just now, "newsdesk not happy doesn't happen at 11."
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Now he's disappointed that apparently the police are dispersing themselves and just letting traffic through. (But that could be the police giving fake orders to do that as a PSYOPs, no idea.)
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Response to joshcryer (Reply #20)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 02:19 AM
Fire Walk With Me (37,033 posts)
21. If it bleeds, it leads.
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Welcome to LA!
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Response to joshcryer (Reply #20)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 06:49 AM
Fire Walk With Me (37,033 posts)
50. Did you record it or know who may have/how to get it?
Response to Fire Walk With Me (Reply #50)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 07:00 AM
joshcryer (39,749 posts)
51. Sorry, I didn't record it and don't know of a source for it.
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Hopefully someone DVR'd it and posts it to YouTube?
I should've recorded it in retrospect. I just didn't expect someone to idiotically say crap like that. |
Response to joshcryer (Reply #51)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 03:21 PM
Fire Walk With Me (37,033 posts)
53. You are so right, me too. I'll keep an eye on youtube.
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Response to limpyhobbler (Reply #11)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 02:30 AM
Fire Walk With Me (37,033 posts)
26. Thank you so much for this link!
Response to Fire Walk With Me (Reply #26)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 02:37 AM
limpyhobbler (6,651 posts)
31. Congratulations to the people of LA. Your sidewalks will now be safe from this terrifying threat
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of chalk. You can sleep soundly once again.
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Response to limpyhobbler (Reply #31)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 03:29 AM
Fire Walk With Me (37,033 posts)
42. I feel sleepy already.
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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Original post)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 01:46 AM
Fire Walk With Me (37,033 posts)
12. 12 arrests tonight for CHALK. Riot cops, police helicopters, rubber bullets for CHALK.
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LA Activist @laactivist
Reporting from downtown: the #LAPD just announced they can't guarantee safety for the media (reporters, etc.) currently on site. #artwalk |
Response to Fire Walk With Me (Reply #12)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 04:29 AM
Zalatix (8,994 posts)
46. Proof that we need more cops, more funding! More military equipment!
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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Original post)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 01:51 AM
joshcryer (39,749 posts)
14. Police moving forward.
Response to Fire Walk With Me (Original post)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 01:54 AM
joshcryer (39,749 posts)
15. Screenshot:
FWWM, you may want to update the title to reflect that they're being attacked now... |
Response to Fire Walk With Me (Original post)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 02:12 AM
joshcryer (39,749 posts)
19. "I hope they do this at the 11 o'clock, this will be great."
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"I don't want to give my information out until they do it."
"They can't do it until they give a dispersal order." (after kettling them of course) I hate the media, journalists are such scum in reality, they want to run the narrative and this guy is just so disappointed they're not doing it while the news is playing...
Situation has changed a bit since I grabbed that screenshot though. |
Response to joshcryer (Reply #19)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 02:33 AM
limpyhobbler (6,651 posts)
28. That helicopter reporter is really bad.
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Early on I heard him say how ridiculous it was that this was all about chalk on the sidewalk.
Whenever he goes into "on the air mode" he switches tones to make it sound like occupiers just randomly started attacking the police. |
Response to limpyhobbler (Reply #28)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 02:34 AM
joshcryer (39,749 posts)
29. Yeah, but then he compared them to his 6 year old.
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But then he basically said "use a waterhose."
I mean, really? I'm not even sure that guy has an opinion, he just wants the best shots, as far as I'm concerned. His on the air mode is just really fucked up and stupid. |
Response to joshcryer (Reply #29)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 02:43 AM
pinboy3niner (27,537 posts)
33. "Use a waterhose." The thing the cops could have avoided confrontation and used on the chalk later?
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That thing? And the chopper guy wants it used against the people?
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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #33)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 02:52 AM
joshcryer (39,749 posts)
37. No, no, he was saying to wash off the sidewalks.
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But before he said that he compared them to his 6 year old. It's like he wanted to insult them for chalking but then wanted to mock the police for taking it so seriously or something.
Basically his opinion, imo, was all over the place. |
Response to Fire Walk With Me (Original post)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 02:24 AM
pinboy3niner (27,537 posts)
22. The KCBS news report was negative
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Described protesters as 'unruly,' 'disrespectful,' etc., bottles thrown at police.
Police had pushed them back to 4th & Spring, dispersal orders were reportedly being given, and police appeared ready to move in to make arrests soon. The number of people involved was reported as about 500 at the start, now down to fewer than 20. The news reported seeing 1 arrest very recently (possibly for assault on a cop), and being told by protesters that there had been about 8 earlier. Police spokesperson reported an ambulance has been called for one injured person (hit by skateboard). The news may be going to a live update after the break. |
Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #22)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 02:29 AM
Fire Walk With Me (37,033 posts)
24. This was Artwalk and drunk bar-goers may have joined in as well. This was not primarily Occupy
Response to Fire Walk With Me (Reply #24)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 02:32 AM
joshcryer (39,749 posts)
27. That's what I'm thinking, as well.
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Liz was even saying Artwalk isn't even an Occupy event really. Cops just being assholes...
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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Reply #24)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 02:35 AM
pinboy3niner (27,537 posts)
30. Thanks, I suspected bar patrons might be involved
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The news reported bottles thrown and shattered glass in the street--but usually the only bottles Occupiers have are plastic water bottles.
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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #30)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 02:56 AM
joshcryer (39,749 posts)
38. There was a bar whose outside walls were covered completely in chalk.
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I wonder if there was any animosity over that. Artwalkers were just going by and chalking the wall and moving on. I think it looked pretty though! It made the wall look interesting and could be washed off with ease... so I can't imagine bar patrons being that pissed off.
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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Original post)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 02:26 AM
Fire Walk With Me (37,033 posts)
23. RT News
Response to Fire Walk With Me (Original post)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 02:29 AM
pinboy3niner (27,537 posts)
25. KCBS brief update:
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Looks like it's coming to an end. Reiterating rocks and bottles were thrown earlier, one officer reported injured. Calmer now, police walking from 4th & Spring to 5th.
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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Original post)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 02:39 AM
Fire Walk With Me (37,033 posts)
32. Word on Patti's stream that someone was shot in the eye with a less-lethal round. n/t
Response to Fire Walk With Me (Original post)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 02:44 AM
JDPriestly (37,758 posts)
34. Please explain what is meant by "chalk on the sidewalk."
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Has the City of LA outlawed the game of hop-scotch? How crazy can you get?
Or is the chalk used in some other way? |
Response to JDPriestly (Reply #34)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 03:20 AM
Fire Walk With Me (37,033 posts)
40. This is exactly the point OLA wished to make, that the city wasting money on arrests for Chalkupy
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is ludicrous and legally offensive. They get charged with vandalism. Note that a 9th Circuit Judge ruled "no chalk shall harm a sidewalk", and there is chalk designed specifically designed for sidewalks, which easily washes off.
There had been 11 arrests for chalking until now, and word of 11 additional tonight. It's about politics. The local 1% are actually, literally calling for an end to "intelligence-based graffiti". http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002929243 and this posted today, note the corporate security, NOT a cop: The sigil is OLA, Occupy LA, done in an Anarchy circle. |
Response to Fire Walk With Me (Original post)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 02:45 AM
Fire Walk With Me (37,033 posts)
35. Uninvolved passer-by shot by LAPD with rubber bullet, facebook link:
Response to Fire Walk With Me (Original post)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 02:50 AM
sabrina 1 (34,059 posts)
36. Protesters need to change their strategy.
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Eg, while the police were busy at the main location of the protests, another group should have gone to different location and covered that area with chalk. And then declare victory and put it on Utube.
Splitting up and going to locations that they do not announce would confuse the cops. |
Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #36)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 03:06 AM
joshcryer (39,749 posts)
39. The police split them up into three groups as far as I could tell.
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I expect the Artwalkers / chalkers weren't intending to use Occupy tactics so they dispersed. Seems like some bar patrons got in on the excitement too, and that isn't the best combination.
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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Original post)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 03:24 AM
BeHereNow (17,152 posts)
41. "Degenerate Chalk Art" Hitler would be so proud...
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http://stevenlehrer.com/degenerate_art.htm
"In summer 1937, Joseph Goebbels’ degenerate art commission canvassed Germany, searching public and private collections. Propaganda office officials seized the works of Otto Dix, Oskar Kokoschka, Erich Nolde, Ernst Ludwig Kirchner, Max Pechstein, and Käthe Kollwitz, among others. Especially hard hit was the modern art division of the Berlin National Gallery, which lost 136 paintings, 28 sculptures, and 324 drawings." In 2012, the LA police attacked artists armed with CHALK on the streets of downtown Los Angeles... Wow, just WOW, is all I can say. I sure don't pay the salaries of the LAPD to attack the artists on Art Walk for carrying and making CHALK ART. I hope MANY lawsuits are filed. BHN |
Response to Fire Walk With Me (Original post)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 03:43 AM
Fire Walk With Me (37,033 posts)
43. Report from earlier tonight about arrests:
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"There were children playing hopscotch. People wrote "I want peace" and they arrested them. Everyone was calm until the police came with riot gear. A girl drew a stick figure, they tackled her."
Someone has confirmed this via watching the livestream. |
Response to Fire Walk With Me (Original post)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 03:50 AM
Fire Walk With Me (37,033 posts)
44. Occupy Seattle posted a ton of links:
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http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Occupy-LA-ArtWalk-Chalk-Walk-Downtown-Fifth-5-Spring-Street-Crowd-Police-LAPD-162319626.html
Occupy Seattle Los Angeles was placed on a citywide tactical alert Thursday night when hundreds of people, including Occupy LA protesters, gathered near Downtown LA as part of a demonstration by the group that set up camp on City Hall lawn late last year. http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Occupy-LA-ArtWalk-Chalk-Walk-Downtown-Fifth-5-Spring-Street-Crowd-Police-LAPD-162319626.html --- Recorded live on July 13, 2012 2:43am PMbeers http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/23953533 --- Streams- http://occupystream.com/ :large
--- *Photo of guy who was shot by #LAPD Sez he was just there for #ArtWalk #OccupyLA #chalkwalk pic v @charlesdavis84 #DTLA https://twitpic.com/a703xh --- One person reported shot in eye with rubber bullet. 11 arrests two kids harassed for chalk writing. Man who won $300,000 in Florida also reportedly arrested. He won after city arrested him for chalk writing. Also one person reporting tear gas used and people locked in the Alexander(?) hotel by police. http://twitter.com/ktytmf12/status/223643125715968001/photo/1 Twitter / ktytmf12: Cops firing rubber bullets twitter.com http://twitter.com/ktytmf12/status/223639233494130690/photo/1 Twitter / ktytmf12: Arrest this kid he's #chal twitter.com http://twitter.com/ktytmf12/status/223636063544020992/photo/1 Twitter / ktytmf12: Who came dressed for a rio twitter.com --- *14 year old who was hit by the rubber bullets tonight on the way to a local 7/11 https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=3941391406986&set=oa.485506634810047&type=1&theater --- *CHALK WALK + GET OUT OF JAIL https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2929784823304&set=oa.485506634810047&type=1&theater https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=3647134936696&set=oa.485506634810047&type=1&theater https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=3941391406986&set=oa.485506634810047&type=1&theater |
Response to Fire Walk With Me (Original post)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 04:27 AM
Fire Walk With Me (37,033 posts)
45. Downtown L.A. melee stemmed from sidewalk chalk demonstration
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http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2012/07/downtown-la-melee-stemmed-from-sidewalk-chalk-demonstration.html
"We were handing out free chalk for freedom of speech," said Cheryl Aichele, 34, a member of Occupy L.A. Police arrived at the intersection shortly before 10 p.m. to move protesters blocking the street. At one point, an unidentified man tossed a glass bottle over his shoulder that landed in front of a line of LAPD officers gathered on Spring Street between 4th and 5th streets. The man was shot with what appeared to be a non-lethal weapon, witnesses said. Police used batons and non-lethal projectiles to disperse the crowd, which in turn threw bottles and cans at officers and chanted, "Whose streets? Our streets!" Hundreds of officers in riot gear systematically moved the crowd away block-by-block as people gathered in the windows of nearby apartments and bars to watch and snap cellphone pictures. |
Response to Fire Walk With Me (Reply #45)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 04:34 AM
joshcryer (39,749 posts)
47. Ahah, that explains it so well. Handing out free stuff gets cops all wired up.
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The plutocrats hate that shit. Oh, and hundreds of random people with chalk probably scared the hell out of 'em, too.
Occupy was largely motivated by handing out free food (and volunteering free food), and of course that attracted a lot of people, thus the crackdowns. Free stuff, bad! |
Response to joshcryer (Reply #47)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 05:30 AM
Fire Walk With Me (37,033 posts)
48. Yep. Free stuff, free speech, means someone doesn't control it or make money from it, literally.
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It will have to go!
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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Original post)
Fri Jul 13, 2012, 03:31 PM
Fire Walk With Me (37,033 posts)
55. Some articles:
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Last edited Fri Jul 13, 2012, 03:40 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) http://news.yahoo.com/arrests-la-police-break-protest-102145262.html
Tear gas cloud photo: http://instagram.com/p/NAwX59tSZp/ Confirmation of a "city-wide tactical alert".......for chalk: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/13/5th-spring-downtown-la-chalk-protest_n_1670194.html?utm_hp_ref=tw Photos, may be time-sensitive and scroll off the page: http://www.rightnow.io/breaking-news/coronado-la_bn_1342127515085.html |



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