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drmeow

(5,015 posts)
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 02:37 PM Jul 2012

Am I the only one

who wishes all this dirt on Romney wasn't coming out until after the Republican National Convention? He is still only the "presumptive" nominee. I'd prefer for all the dirt to come out after he is the full fledged official nominee.

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Am I the only one (Original Post) drmeow Jul 2012 OP
This is a perfect week for this Politicalboi Jul 2012 #1
How is that a good thing for Obama? Lionessa Jul 2012 #4
To have the GOP Politicalboi Jul 2012 #6
If you think Ron Paul would beat Obama Control-Z Jul 2012 #7
I think MrDiaz Jul 2012 #16
America is not yet ready for its first muppet president n/t Scootaloo Jul 2012 #17
I fear his chance is actually better than Rmoney's. Jmo. Lionessa Jul 2012 #19
Anecdotal info does not win elections. Just like the younsters I know Control-Z Jul 2012 #29
I'm glad it's coming out now....the more time he's in hot water the better. snappyturtle Jul 2012 #2
I too have wondered about this panader0 Jul 2012 #3
No. I was thinking the same thing. Control-Z Jul 2012 #5
I don't see how we lose on this one... phantom power Jul 2012 #8
I hope you are right drmeow Jul 2012 #9
I'm more concerned about the GOP super-PAC money avalanche... phantom power Jul 2012 #11
There is that - just one of my many worries drmeow Jul 2012 #13
Mitt will be limping into his own convention C_U_L8R Jul 2012 #10
Perhaps many Republicans will be too depressed to riverbendviewgal Jul 2012 #12
That would be AWESOME eom drmeow Jul 2012 #14
you want it now before the big money weighs in. grantcart Jul 2012 #15
Why? drmeow Jul 2012 #21
I'm not with you rufus dog Jul 2012 #18
The convention will be a formality DavidDvorkin Jul 2012 #20
Evidently you're not alone, but I say bring it on right now Spike89 Jul 2012 #22
Good point about the money drmeow Jul 2012 #23
Undoubtedly some have asked, but that isn't saying they got it Spike89 Jul 2012 #24
Any other nominee will be seen as illegitimate Motown_Johnny Jul 2012 #25
it's been six weeks of listening to PAC commercials onethatcares Jul 2012 #26
I think there is so much more to be uncovered and this will crescendo after the convention liberal N proud Jul 2012 #27
I think there is handmade34 Jul 2012 #28
who would they stick in? perry? gingrich? santorum? lol. nt seabeyond Jul 2012 #30
To Quote Some Pundit Today... WillyT Jul 2012 #31
 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
1. This is a perfect week for this
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 02:40 PM
Jul 2012

The Ron Paul kooks are voting for delegates this weekend. Paul may still be in play. If this is all true, it may pull more towards Paul.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
6. To have the GOP
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 02:44 PM
Jul 2012

Divided is a good thing for Obama. Just like Ross Perot was good for Bill Clinton in 1992.

I hear a sucking sound. LOL!

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
7. If you think Ron Paul would beat Obama
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 02:45 PM
Jul 2012

then I guess it wouldn't seem like a good thing. But Ron Paul won't beat Obama.

 

MrDiaz

(731 posts)
16. I think
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 03:10 PM
Jul 2012

that romney vs obama will result in obama winning, but if it is ron paul vs obama, then i believe he has a better chance at winning simply because he will get the majority of the independents, republicans will vote for anyone except obama, and some democrats down on the wars and our foreign policy, and guantanamo, will vote for ron paul (all though a small percentage.) And I also believe that Dem's around the country aren't nearly as hyped up and excited as they were for the first election, which could return in lower voters at the polls. Hopefully Romney does win the nomination, because then we wouldn't have a problem

 

Lionessa

(3,894 posts)
19. I fear his chance is actually better than Rmoney's. Jmo.
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 03:19 PM
Jul 2012

Just for his position on mj, he'd pick up a lot of young voters. They'll look past much of anything else he says as status quo and likely similar to what Obama did, does, or will do, with very few exceptions, is my worry.

I've listened to youngers, since I'm a mmj user, about RP, and they think he's great. Try to tell them that he's not the same RP of a few years ago with many of his planks, point to his son and his goofiness, doesn't seem to matter. They don't care, they want MJ legalized, they'll worry about all the rest later.

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
29. Anecdotal info does not win elections. Just like the younsters I know
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 09:31 PM
Jul 2012

don't want pot legalized. They want to keep the medical mj dispensaries here in California without the government controlling it and messing up what is a good thing.

Every single one of the kids I know says the same thing. I don't use it so I have no first hand opinions to offer. On the other hand, I think all drugs should be legalized.

I don't believe Ron Paul could win either way.

snappyturtle

(14,656 posts)
2. I'm glad it's coming out now....the more time he's in hot water the better.
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 02:42 PM
Jul 2012

It will be fun to watch the repukes scramble!

panader0

(25,816 posts)
3. I too have wondered about this
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 02:42 PM
Jul 2012

If he's forced to withdraw, who would run in his place?
I worried that another candidate might be better for the GOP.
But Truly, if Romney is disgraced the GOP will fail big time. Maybe for 2016 as well.

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
5. No. I was thinking the same thing.
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 02:43 PM
Jul 2012

But I also have faith in the Obama campaign. They'll use it to their advantage. I would bet on it.

phantom power

(25,966 posts)
8. I don't see how we lose on this one...
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 02:48 PM
Jul 2012

It's profoundly unlikely that Romney isn't the eventual nominee. But in the far-out case that he isn't, it just causes the GOP convention to become a late-stage battleground, and anybody coming out of that will be very weakened. Bad as that is for the GOP, Romney is their strongest candidate.

drmeow

(5,015 posts)
9. I hope you are right
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 02:52 PM
Jul 2012

Is there anyone they could pick who would bring out the base to ensure the Senate even if they can't get the President? That's my concern.

phantom power

(25,966 posts)
11. I'm more concerned about the GOP super-PAC money avalanche...
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 02:59 PM
Jul 2012

I'm just making a more narrow point that I don't think the timing of the dirt is a problem. There are other aspects that (to me) continue to be worrisome, especially down-ticket, as you say.

drmeow

(5,015 posts)
13. There is that - just one of my many worries
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 03:05 PM
Jul 2012

The country CANNOT afford more GOP control - at least not while there are retirement age people on the SCOTUS. As much as I care about legislation and the year-to-year governance, the current SC scares the living shit out of me.

C_U_L8R

(44,997 posts)
10. Mitt will be limping into his own convention
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 02:53 PM
Jul 2012

and enthusiasm for his campaign will be flaccid
and as phony as the candidate

drmeow

(5,015 posts)
21. Why?
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 03:33 PM
Jul 2012

Does this change the big money dynamic? Would the effects of all these findings be different after the big money weighs in? Would they not have come out after the big money weighs in? I'm really interested in what you're thinking here!

 

rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
18. I'm not with you
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 03:11 PM
Jul 2012

Keep the pressure on them.

Part of Romney's base (Evangelicals) are having to twist themselves into a pretzel to vote for what they believe is a cult member. Now they will have to twist further to ignore his lies and off shore tax shelters.

Spike89

(1,569 posts)
22. Evidently you're not alone, but I say bring it on right now
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 03:37 PM
Jul 2012

Ron Paul is NOT a serious threat--he has no financial backing, no serious Republican infrastructure, and the spotlight would quickly expose his real positions. For instance, he isn't pro pot--he simply thinks it isn't a federal issue and he wants states to pass their own laws, even if they are strongly for criminalization. So, under Paul, some states might get legal pot, where across a border it could be a life sentance to have a single joint. Of course that isn't even an issue--the President doesn't get to make or repeal laws. Paul would never be able to get congress to do any of the things he holds dear.
Romney is going to be the nominee, even if it means he's severely hamstrung. The big money is already in his accounts, throwing a Jeb Bush into the fray at this point would result in a candidate without a war chest. Worse for them, any candidate other than Romney will not be vetted by primary voters (or already rejected by them).
Hit him now and pound on him later. If this actually hurts Romney, it is nothing but good news for us.

drmeow

(5,015 posts)
23. Good point about the money
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 03:50 PM
Jul 2012

I hadn't thought about that. Although haven't there been cases of donors asking for their money back?

Spike89

(1,569 posts)
24. Undoubtedly some have asked, but that isn't saying they got it
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 05:26 PM
Jul 2012

A lot of the money Romney has gotten in has already been spent on infrastructure for the upcoming election, all the expenses he's incurred on the primary trail, and if he did get in a tussle at the convention, he'd spend a lot more there defending/fighting. Maybe some of his huge warchest could be repurposed, and without a doubt many repug supporters would just dig a little deeper to make up for most of the losses--maybe they spend some of the money down-ballot repubs were hoping for and we regain the House?
Kick him now, then keep kicking him until they switch to another horse (doubtful) then kick the new horse. Right now, Romney is the biggest threat to Obama, if they had a better option who could win, they'd have throw him/her at us already.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
25. Any other nominee will be seen as illegitimate
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 05:29 PM
Jul 2012

A convention battle would be great for us.

If this helps make it happen then so much the better.

onethatcares

(16,165 posts)
26. it's been six weeks of listening to PAC commercials
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 05:36 PM
Jul 2012

talking about how dimmitt is better than the POTUS, if it changes in August, what are they gonna say? "we're sorry,if we may have offended anybody that might have been offended by our backing of a chump"?

I want to see rmoney stuttering along with the rightwing bullshit artists.

liberal N proud

(60,334 posts)
27. I think there is so much more to be uncovered and this will crescendo after the convention
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 05:39 PM
Jul 2012

Romney will be the nominee, just crippled going into the home stretch.

 

WillyT

(72,631 posts)
31. To Quote Some Pundit Today...
Thu Jul 12, 2012, 09:37 PM
Jul 2012

Para: "Everyday that the press is talking about Bain, is a day they are not talking about the jobs numbers."


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