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Wed Jul 11, 2012, 10:15 PM

Under ACA (aka Obamacare) won't Congress be forced to use

the same Health Care Insurance that everyone else uses, instead of the Cadillac Plan they have now?

I'm almost sure that I read that in the bill, but frankly I'm too lazy (and drunk) to look it up right now.

Could that be another reason that Republicans want it repealed? One that the "common man" can understand?

While we're at it, I still don't understand why they say in one breath that "Socialized Insurance" (NOT "health care", because it's still Capitalistic Health Care, the only thing that changes is how we pay for it) is so bad, but in the next breath they say that private insurance can't compete.

Isn't that what the Free market is about? Competition? If Private Insurance cannot compete with Public Insurance, then by the rules of a Free Market the Public Option is the best.

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NashvilleLefty Jul 2012 OP
NutmegYankee Jul 2012 #1
NashvilleLefty Jul 2012 #3
NutmegYankee Jul 2012 #5
Pilotguy Jul 2012 #2
NashvilleLefty Jul 2012 #4
BumRushDaShow Jul 2012 #6

Response to NashvilleLefty (Original post)

Wed Jul 11, 2012, 10:19 PM

1. They actually don't have a "Cadillac plan".

They are part of the Federal Employees Health benefit plan, which allows you to choose among a bunch of insurance providers. For instance, many choose BCBS which is a PPO, while a parents with children may opt for an HMO. In essence, they are already in a health exchange.

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Response to NutmegYankee (Reply #1)

Wed Jul 11, 2012, 10:40 PM

3. So, they don't want us to have the same plan they have. n/t

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Response to NashvilleLefty (Reply #3)

Wed Jul 11, 2012, 10:59 PM

5. The republicans don't. nt

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Response to NashvilleLefty (Original post)

Wed Jul 11, 2012, 10:19 PM

2. Section 1312 Part D



(D) MEMBERS OF CONGRESS IN THE EXCHANGE—

(i) REQUIREMENT—Notwithstanding any other provision of law, after the effective date of this subtitle, the only health plans that the Federal Government may make available to Members of Congress and congressional staff with respect to their service as a Member of Congress or congressional staff shall be health plans that are—

(I) created under this Act (or an amendment made by this Act); or

II) offered through an Exchange established under this Act (or an amendment made by this Act).

(ii) DEFINITIONS—In this section:

(I) MEMBER OF CONGRESS—The term ‘‘Member of Congress’’ means any member of the House of Representatives or the Senate.

(II) CONGRESSIONAL STAFF—The term ‘‘congressional staff’’ means all full-time and part-time employees employed by the official office of a Member of Congress, whether in Washington, DC or outside of Washington, DC.

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Response to Pilotguy (Reply #2)

Wed Jul 11, 2012, 10:42 PM

4. That's what I was looking for! So

they don't want the rest of us to have the same insurance plan that they have.

Why aren't we emphasizing this more?

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Response to NashvilleLefty (Reply #4)

Wed Jul 11, 2012, 11:03 PM

6. They have the FEHB

like the rest of the federal employees have - the equivalent of the "exchange" would be whatever providers are active in the state in which they reside, which is how ACA was eventually going to be set up. In fact, one would think that they would use the existing FEHB state providers as a starting point and add other insurers who may want to participate. I.e., the infrastructure is already there.

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