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Sat Jul 7, 2012, 03:12 PM

In Pa., Voter ID Law Already Changing The Electoral Landscape

The estimated 750,000 voters who do not have state-issued IDs in Pennsylvania surpasses President Obama’s margin of victory in 2008. Many of the voters without ID are in poor and minority communities — typically blocs that vote Democratic. Democrats’ worst fears appeared to be confirmed when the Republican leader of the state House, who helped shepherd the legislation onto the books, recently boasted that it will “allow” Mitt Romney win the Keystone State.

http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/07/in-pa-voter-id-law-already-changing-the-electoral-landscape.php?ref=fpa&tw_p=twt

They will do anything to win. This includes disenfranchising poor and minority voters.

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Reply In Pa., Voter ID Law Already Changing The Electoral Landscape (Original post)
arely staircase Jul 2012 OP
riverbendviewgal Jul 2012 #1
ananda Jul 2012 #2
arely staircase Jul 2012 #3
SoCalDem Jul 2012 #6
Zalatix Jul 2012 #16
Sirveri Jul 2012 #18
april Jul 2012 #11
Chan790 Jul 2012 #12
arely staircase Jul 2012 #14
no_hypocrisy Jul 2012 #4
Beowulf Jul 2012 #5
DearAbby Jul 2012 #7
chknltl Jul 2012 #8
arely staircase Jul 2012 #9
warrior1 Jul 2012 #10
arely staircase Jul 2012 #13
BadGimp Jul 2012 #15
Kablooie Jul 2012 #17

Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Sat Jul 7, 2012, 03:18 PM

1. so where is the democrats helping these people

there should be an army of people to will research and cart people around and money contributed to help these people get ID.

Why isn't anyone organizing doing this?

There should be buses out there with big signs stopping at corners for people to go in and start getting help getting ID.. THere should be billboards. flyers put on every corner and store fronts.

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Response to riverbendviewgal (Reply #1)

Sat Jul 7, 2012, 03:20 PM

2. Good questions?

And I fear the answers aint pretty either.

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Response to riverbendviewgal (Reply #1)

Sat Jul 7, 2012, 04:05 PM

3. did you read the whole story?

that is precisely what it is about - how democrats and progressive groups like unions will have to fight it.

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Response to riverbendviewgal (Reply #1)

Sat Jul 7, 2012, 05:14 PM

6. They are on tv, complaining about it

and they are wasting money filing lawsuits that will settle the issues probably around 2015.

This has been planned and discussed here (and other places) ad-nauseum since 2000.

It ALWAYS happens.. GOP gain control of state houses/governorships and the FIRST thing they do is to set out to make it harder for their opponents to vote next time.. It's called job-security.

We (as a group) stamp our feet, and scream bloody murder.. "It's not Faaaaaair".. and they reply..."So?"

and on election day, our people are challenged, refused voting opportunities ans the GOP ratchet up their control a bit more..

In Jan of 2011 when the horde of GOP folks stormed into office, our people on the ground should have been knocking on doors, visiting neighborhoods, armed with laptops, getting everyone the necessary paperwork, and then returning with buses & cars to transport these people to get IDs.

Extra money should have gone into this arena instead of patiently filing lawsuits that will be ignored by GOP. They are a lawless, rambunctious bunch who only cares about results.. They will fight in court later (they own most of the judges anyway)

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Response to SoCalDem (Reply #6)

Sat Jul 7, 2012, 11:23 PM

16. +100,000,000! Damned straight!

 

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Response to SoCalDem (Reply #6)

Sun Jul 8, 2012, 03:22 AM

18. If I lived in or near PA, I would be there with a car and making trips to the DMV

Sadly I'm in CA, where are the DU'ers in this, why aren't the local DU'ers pulling together and pooling resources to help pull something like this together? Sometimes I'm annoyed that I live in CA, so I don't get the chance to actually try and arrange something like this.

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Response to riverbendviewgal (Reply #1)

Sat Jul 7, 2012, 06:14 PM

11. I agree w/ you

start forming groups to help the ones that dont have a photo id they have time ...This should be a campaign !!

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Response to riverbendviewgal (Reply #1)

Sat Jul 7, 2012, 06:15 PM

12. If there's an organization providing that assistance will someone let me know?

I know a lot of lefty Democratic-voting politically-conscious Philly bartenders that work nights and spend their afternoons watching Animal Planet and getting high out of boredom. I think I can mobilize them as volunteers to help people fix ID issues. Most of them are underemployed college liberal-arts graduates so it's not like they'd be hard to train or easily confused.

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Sat Jul 7, 2012, 04:08 PM

4. Sounds like two parts to get an empowered democratic electorate:

1. Register individuals to vote
2. Get them approved voter ID.

Once you get a system in place, maybe you can preserve the voting block.

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Sat Jul 7, 2012, 05:01 PM

5. National I.D.'s are SOP in many countries.

Not just for voting, but for every kind of social service as well. While springing this on the electorate so close to an election is unethical, as is not providing easy means for individuals to secure the i.d., to my mind requiring an i.d. makes sense. Granted, it's a bit more complicated when these matters are left to each state, rather than Federal policy, but the party should be using the same GOTV tactics to insure everyone has a proper id.

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Sat Jul 7, 2012, 05:22 PM

7. More people have seen Big foot

For the GOP, everyone having a voice in our government, should not be allowed. In Pennsylvania there has only been 18 cases of voter fraud in the last decade. Hardly a problem to prohibit minorities, the poor, the elderly, the disabled, our youth, from the ballot box.

Republican Legislator Admits Restrictive Voter ID Laws Are To Help Republicans Win...we are on to your game.
http://politicalwire.com/archives/2012/06/25/quote_of_the_day.html

GOP are going out of their way to make sure Eligible citizens are denied the right to vote. 18 cases of voter fraud over the last ten years....how many elections would have swung the either way via those 18 votes? Its overkill, obstruction.

You have no qualms denying tens of thousands of people from voting...just to keep those 18 from voting too....Like chasing an ant with an anvil.

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Response to chknltl (Reply #8)

Sat Jul 7, 2012, 05:52 PM

9. at least he was upfront about it nt

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Sat Jul 7, 2012, 06:06 PM

10. how do they know that it doesn't effect republican voters?

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Response to warrior1 (Reply #10)

Sat Jul 7, 2012, 06:17 PM

13. it will

Recently, the state’s GOP House Majority Leader Mike Turzai boasted of the Voter-ID law as a Republican accomplishment that would have an effect in November, telling a party meeting: “Voter ID, which is gonna allow Governor Romney to win the state of Pennsylvania, done.”

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/07/pennsylvania_voter_id_disenfranchised.php

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Sat Jul 7, 2012, 09:24 PM

15. Republicans play to WIN

- They bring an intense A game
- They aim to kill not wound
- They don't stop, they NEVER quit
- They don't care what they have to do to WIN
- Reality means NOTHING to theses people

That's why they win when they should loose.

Why do Democrats Loose?



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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Sun Jul 8, 2012, 01:27 AM

17. Letting all these GOP scams stand may allow them to win the country after all.

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