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Thu Jul 5, 2012, 10:44 PM

OK, if the T-Rex was allowed onto the Ark, didn't it start eating people?





The Creation Museum evolves: Hoping to add a life-size ark project, the museum hits fundraising trouble
By Liz Goodwin, Yahoo! News | The Lookout


Five years after it opened, the Creation Museum in Petersburg, Ky., still gleams, and life-size dinosaurs still tread the Earth, shoulder-to-shoulder with humans. But behind the scenes, one of the most ambitious efforts in America to counter evolutionary theory has hit a roadblock.

When you walk into the Creation Museum, one of the first things you see is an exhibit of a doe-eyed human child crouched next to a velociraptor dinosaur. The two seem not at all surprised that their epochs have collided. Homo sapiens and velociraptors missed each other by a good 65 million years, according to most scientists, but in the world of the Creation Museum, humans and dinosaurs were created on the same day 6,000 years ago, coexisting peacefully in the Garden of Eden. A thousand years later, a 600-year-old man ushered them onto Noah's ark.

Answers in Genesis, a ministry founded in Australia, built the Creation Museum. The group seeks to convince others that the theory of evolution is wrong and that the account of creation told in Genesis is literally true. The result: a place that resembles a slick and entertaining natural history museum, even as it peddles the exact opposite message.

Now, the people behind this museum are looking to erect something much bigger: a 160-acre park with a life-size replica of Noah's Ark built to stand 500 feet long and 80 feet high. They're hoping to tap four teams of Amish builders to construct this giant ark, which would become the largest timber structure in the country. Including parking and other areas, the entire Ark Encounter would sit on 800 acres about a 40-minute drive away from the Creation Museum in northern Kentucky. ...................(more)

The complete piece is at: http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/creation-museum-evolves-hoping-add-life-size-ark-170347907.html



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Reply OK, if the T-Rex was allowed onto the Ark, didn't it start eating people? (Original post)
marmar Jul 2012 OP
pinboy3niner Jul 2012 #1
PCIntern Jul 2012 #25
XanaDUer Jul 2012 #32
spanone Jul 2012 #2
Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2012 #3
malthaussen Jul 2012 #4
kestrel91316 Jul 2012 #40
JoePhilly Jul 2012 #44
uppityperson Jul 2012 #5
xfundy Jul 2012 #7
uppityperson Jul 2012 #13
aint_no_life_nowhere Jul 2012 #9
uppityperson Jul 2012 #14
pinboy3niner Jul 2012 #18
kestrel91316 Jul 2012 #41
uppityperson Jul 2012 #43
Generic Other Jul 2012 #24
uppityperson Jul 2012 #30
Generic Other Jul 2012 #35
uppityperson Jul 2012 #37
Generic Other Jul 2012 #38
MichiganVote Jul 2012 #6
Generic Other Jul 2012 #8
malthaussen Jul 2012 #12
pinboy3niner Jul 2012 #17
Buns_of_Fire Jul 2012 #21
Generic Other Jul 2012 #23
Motown_Johnny Jul 2012 #10
Iggo Jul 2012 #11
HooptieWagon Jul 2012 #15
sarisataka Jul 2012 #16
Comrade_McKenzie Jul 2012 #19
Art_from_Ark Jul 2012 #20
Mr Dixon Jul 2012 #22
RebelOne Jul 2012 #26
nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #27
Warren Stupidity Jul 2012 #28
20score Jul 2012 #29
Yavin4 Jul 2012 #31
KatChatter Jul 2012 #33
cbrer Jul 2012 #34
Liberal Jesus Freak Jul 2012 #36
Generic Other Jul 2012 #39
spin Jul 2012 #42

Response to marmar (Original post)

Thu Jul 5, 2012, 10:51 PM

1. They kept it on the leash and kept throwing it BAC-O's

Duh!

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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #1)

Sun Jul 8, 2012, 02:08 PM

25. DUzy! Nt

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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #1)

Sun Jul 8, 2012, 02:21 PM

32. Lol!!!!

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Response to marmar (Original post)

Thu Jul 5, 2012, 10:54 PM

2. stupid is as stupid does...this is some outstanding stupid

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Response to marmar (Original post)

Thu Jul 5, 2012, 10:55 PM

3. That is so ignorant of you.

Everyone knows they ate carrots. Obviously the ark was very well stocked.



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Response to marmar (Original post)

Thu Jul 5, 2012, 10:58 PM

4. Silly person. God supressed their natural instincts while they were in the Ark.

What I want to know is, how did all those animals fit? Unless we're talking some weird application of Superstring Theory. But that would be, like, science.

The other thing I want to know is who had to shovel out all the...

-- Mal

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Response to malthaussen (Reply #4)

Sun Jul 8, 2012, 03:55 PM

40. Gawd suppressed everybody's bodily functions for the duration, just like he

suppressed their predatory instincts. He suppressed the herbivores' need to graze on grass and/or brush, too.

Sheesh.

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Response to malthaussen (Reply #4)

Sun Jul 8, 2012, 05:50 PM

44. Fundies told me that they took Dino EGGS on the ark, so no feeding or clean-up was required.

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Response to marmar (Original post)

Thu Jul 5, 2012, 10:58 PM

5. Forget t-rex. What did all the other animals eat? Not to mention how did they fit that

many animals into that small of a space? Maybe they just took a sampling and since they've been out running around procreating since, they've evolve into the numerous species and sub species. Oh, wait. That doesn't work, does it?

Think of those poor animals, crowded together in a dark dank damp ship with no food or clean water for over a month. ASPCA should've been called.

Oh, wait. Dang. Painted myself into a corner again.

OK, how about it was a fable rather than Absolute Truth?

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Response to uppityperson (Reply #5)

Thu Jul 5, 2012, 11:20 PM

7. BabyJesus™ has a shrink ray. DUHHH.

He's god. He can do anything! Don't throw me into that briar patch, Mister BabyJesus™!!

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Response to xfundy (Reply #7)

Thu Jul 5, 2012, 11:39 PM

13. Good grief, Jesus wasn't on the ark. That was Noah. Jesus wasn't for another couple thousand yrs.

Old testament. Old, not AD but wayyyyyyyyy BC.

According to a strict reading of the Book of Genesis, which contains information about the lifespans of important characters in Hebrew tradition, Noah was born around 1056 years after the date of creation, which is thought by some to have been approximately 6000 years ago. He went on to live exactly 950 years, and so lived approximately 5000 to 4000 years ago.

Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_long_ago_did_Noah_live#ixzz1zoHsm0lg


According to the Biblical chronology Noah was 600 years old when the flood occurred at around 2300 BC. He also is recorded as living a further 350 years after it. See Genesis 9 v 28-29. Thus he died at around 1950 BC.

Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/When_did_Noah_live#ixzz1zoI10DCq


Found my answer:
http://www.noahs-ark-flood.com/faq.htm
How could all species of animals fit in the ark?

They didn't. All of the kinds of animals that Noah had in his stockyard were put in the ark, but these were domesticated ranch animals and there were less than 280 of them.


Weird. So giraffes evolved from goats? Oh dang. That evolution issue again.

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Response to uppityperson (Reply #5)

Thu Jul 5, 2012, 11:27 PM

9. There are nearly 1 million different species of insects alone

Everything and everyone on the ark must have been nose-deep in creepy crawlers.

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Response to aint_no_life_nowhere (Reply #9)

Thu Jul 5, 2012, 11:42 PM

14. This link says all he took were farm animals which leads me to wonder where koala bears came from


http://www.noahs-ark-flood.com/faq.htm
How could all species of animals fit in the ark?

They didn't. All of the kinds of animals that Noah had in his stockyard were put in the ark, but these were domesticated ranch animals and there were less than 280 of them.

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Response to uppityperson (Reply #14)

Fri Jul 6, 2012, 01:47 AM

18. From the koala bear farm

Duh!

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Response to uppityperson (Reply #14)

Sun Jul 8, 2012, 03:59 PM

41. What I want to know is where the duckbilled platypi came from.

Maybe some domesticated ducks escaped and crossed with some beavers. Yeah. That's it.

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Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #41)

Sun Jul 8, 2012, 05:46 PM

43. Maybe it had to do with the closeness of all those animals in the ark? Or it was just a joke.

Ever read Terry Pratchett? One of his books includes god making different animals and the wizards get involved. Or was it the wizards trying to draw a picture of a duck while in Australia? Hmmm, I think the first was where roaches came from as god really liked beetles and the second was the platypus.

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Response to uppityperson (Reply #5)

Sun Jul 8, 2012, 02:06 PM

24. Interestingly, the original Noah was more intelligent

Scholars believe the Hebrew version was derived from an earlier Sumerian version. Abraham was born in modern-day Iraq and his tribe carried the story with them when he journeyed to other lands. Utanapishtim tells a similar Noah story of a great flood in The Epic of Gilgamesh. Clearly, it makes so much more sense that a flood story would come from the delta area of The Tigris-Euphrates. The deluge was a huge local flood. Utanapishtim is said to have constructed a ship that looked much like an ark -- he specified the dimensions as did Noah -- and filled it with the SEEDS of every animal and plant. He also took craftsmen. I have to say as a story of an ancient event, this version seems more of a fanciful re-telling of a real event than the OT version which just seems a fairy tale. It reminds me of basic science fiction stories like Battlestar Galactica.

I would say Utanapishtim (known as the world's oldest man to the Sumerians) was not quite as dumb as later narratives of his story suggest. I think like all Biblical stories, much of the literal truth has long since fled leaving behind only the tantalizing shadows, no? You may be right that they are made up fables, but I wonder if those haven't been tacked on to real life-dramas of the day? I am mostly interested in discovering the kernels of historical truth. If they exist.

For some faith is enough. For me, there has to be evidence. Sorry for bending your ear. I love mythology discussions.

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Response to Generic Other (Reply #24)

Sun Jul 8, 2012, 02:19 PM

30. No problem. What has gotten into the story is irksome. Seeds make more sense but...

though since they hadn't figured out sperm/egg bit yet I wonder if they just took sperm/homunculus of every animal. Which wouldn't work of course. Musing here.

Many different religions stories have a Noah like story in them. Working with the Lakota's in ND way back and they had one such story, showed me the hill it ended up on (in the part of ND that has hills). I am sure that there were floods and big boats carrying animals, but turning those stories into "2 of every animal, praise the lord this is the truth!" is irksome to me.

Yes, god can do anything but then we need to define that term (god) as it means different things to everyone.

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Response to uppityperson (Reply #30)

Sun Jul 8, 2012, 02:34 PM

35. I hate how humans cast both their greatest deeds and their worst as a higher power's doing

We always look for hierarchies to conform with or rebel against. It's the pendulum that swings back and forth.

Erich Von Daniken claimed spacemen built the pyramids reducing humans to imbeciles with opposable thumbs. The Bible doesn't do much better. It is divine intervention -- deus ex machina -- the God particle gets all the credit for human accomplishment.

But I always look for the possible historical account in the "legends" and "stories" anyway. I blame Yul Brynner and Cecil B. De Mille and some crazy ass synchronization of beliefs that has guided my interests through the years.

I try not to deal in abstractions.

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Response to Generic Other (Reply #35)

Sun Jul 8, 2012, 02:45 PM

37. Ever read the book "Mister God, this is Anna"? It is annoyingly cute but has

some interesting bits in it. I got it as a young adult and enjoyed parts. Why continue to go to church every week unless you don't get it? God is in us all, we are all god, so why the worship of a higher power since we are it and it is us?

That sort of stuff along with finding life amazing.

Pulling god out of everything and making it something different from everything is odd. Not everything can be proven either.

When I go to stores with double sliding automatic doors I often mutter to myself "moses moses moses" as I part the way.

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Response to uppityperson (Reply #37)

Sun Jul 8, 2012, 02:57 PM

38. I lived in a house where the previous tenant walked through a sliding glass door

I don't trust Moses either.

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Response to marmar (Original post)

Thu Jul 5, 2012, 11:09 PM

6. It missed the Coulter branch

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Response to marmar (Original post)

Thu Jul 5, 2012, 11:22 PM

8. wHERE's the unicorn?

that's what I want to know.

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Response to Generic Other (Reply #8)

Thu Jul 5, 2012, 11:36 PM

12. That's easily answered:




-- Mal

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Response to Generic Other (Reply #8)

Fri Jul 6, 2012, 01:39 AM

17. Forward berth

Cabin 2B.

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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #17)

Fri Jul 6, 2012, 07:19 AM

21. Otherwise (due to a mistake in translation) known as "the kitchen".

Sadly, the unicorns were among the first things eaten, along with Noah's private stash of Twinkies and Doritos (and two quarts of strawberries from the freezer). Noah was pretty pissed about that, but then Jesus pulled up alongside with five loaves of bread and two fish and showed Noah how to whip up tasty and nutritious meals for everything left on board (Scurvy hadn't been invented yet).

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Response to Buns_of_Fire (Reply #21)

Sun Jul 8, 2012, 01:43 PM

23. I heard Noah carried a lot of intestinal parasites

well two of each species at least.

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Response to marmar (Original post)

Thu Jul 5, 2012, 11:29 PM

10. No, Dinosaurs went extinct because they were not on the ark.

Everybody knows that.


Plus, if they were on the ark they would have been fed fish. Don't you think that they knew enough to take fishing nets on a boat like that?

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Response to marmar (Original post)

Thu Jul 5, 2012, 11:31 PM

11. God made him nicer, duh!

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Response to marmar (Original post)

Fri Jul 6, 2012, 01:23 AM

15. No. They were Banging a Gong ( get it on).

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Response to marmar (Original post)

Fri Jul 6, 2012, 01:31 AM

16. Simple dietary change



of course Noah and family did a lot of fishing

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Response to marmar (Original post)

Fri Jul 6, 2012, 01:55 AM

19. Don't go nitpicking every piece of fiction you read... nt

 

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Response to marmar (Original post)

Fri Jul 6, 2012, 04:39 AM

20. Was this before or after Zeus flooded the Earth

to punish man for becoming wicked after having Pandora unleash wickedness on them?

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Response to marmar (Original post)

Fri Jul 6, 2012, 08:19 AM

22. ROFL


Just goes to show that when you don’t know the answer it was perfectly normal to just make shit up. John Smith is that you? Will somebody part this sea we are trying to cross? Now where did I place my T-rex harness? Can somebody tell Zeus that “Wrath of the Titans” sucked? Santa Claus where is my Fuck PS3? ROFL

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Response to marmar (Original post)

Sun Jul 8, 2012, 02:10 PM

26. There is no way I could that museum.

I would be thrown out because I would be laughing so loudly.

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Response to marmar (Original post)

Sun Jul 8, 2012, 02:13 PM

27. It did it did

I even got the answer as to how...(and amazed these idjits have not gone there)

God is all powerful you see, and as T-Rex aproached the Ark, it became a chicken, and a rooster. This is why scientists have found T-Rex genes in chickens. It was a gift from this all powerful god to humans.

Grain of truth here, the chicken is genetically related to T-Rex.

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Response to marmar (Original post)

Sun Jul 8, 2012, 02:14 PM

28. No sillier than many other routine beliefs.

Virgin birth for example.

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Response to marmar (Original post)

Sun Jul 8, 2012, 02:14 PM

29. The important thing is to apply this same impeccable logic to

the global warming and tax cuts debates. There's money to be made in magic thinking!

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Response to marmar (Original post)

Sun Jul 8, 2012, 02:19 PM

31. Robot Chicken Explains Exactly What Happened to Dinosaurs

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Response to marmar (Original post)

Sun Jul 8, 2012, 02:26 PM

33. Seeing that everyone pretty much agrees that the Noah Story and other Tall Tales are

 

pretty much BS.

So to end the debate why not have Spielberg and Lucas do the new 'Official OT Story' and end the debate of what happened. I would prefer a Quentin Tarantino version but not everyone would be into an R rated OT.

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Response to marmar (Original post)

Sun Jul 8, 2012, 02:28 PM

34. If you're going to start with the bible

 

May as well continue. Remember the lion and the lamb parable? I guess it could apply to T Rex and humans too.

But don't worry! The tooth fairy will save the day!

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Response to marmar (Original post)

Sun Jul 8, 2012, 02:44 PM

36. Eggs.

Noah took dinosaur eggs. Or so I was told by a pastor in Kentucky shortly after he had visited the museum!

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Response to Liberal Jesus Freak (Reply #36)

Sun Jul 8, 2012, 02:58 PM

39. Wait that's Daenyris in GAME of THRONES

and it was dragon eggs.

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Response to marmar (Original post)

Sun Jul 8, 2012, 04:00 PM

42. The myth of Noah's ark is common to MANY religions ...

(Ref: http://www.nwcreation.net/noahlegends.html/)

Myths are the smoke of history and it is indeed possible that a man and his family survived a great flood or a tsunami and had some animals on a boat with them.

Any really good story is worth repeating and is often enhanced to make it a better story or in ancient times more appropriate to the religion of the listeners.

The Bible is NOT a science text book. T-Rex was fortunately long extinct before our species came to be. Cave men might have been able to kill a mammoth but throwing spears at a T-Rex would have been a bad plan.

Constructing a replica of the Biblical ark is an interesting project but putting it on land or a small lake proves nothing. I would be more interested in seeing if it was actually sea worthy. If it passed that test, I would love to see what happens if you stick a large group of animals including dangerous game on it for an extended period of time along with just a few people. The problems faced by such a family and the challenge of feeding the animals and cleaning their cages would have probably convinced the humans to either go on strike or to wish they would have perished in the flood.

I find the Old Testament a fascinating collection of documents written by men that teach moral lessons many of which were mainly appropriate to a small and rather insignificant tribe of people thousands of years ago. Some of these values can be beneficial to instructing an individual in how to live a rewarding and beneficial life even in our modern times.

We often assume that we are far more intelligent than our ancestors but in reality while we have developed far more knowledge than they had, their brain power was the same as ours. One hundred or one thousand years from now (if we survive) we will have far more scientific knowledge than we do today. Perhaps far in the future both religion and science will find common ground. Who knows.

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