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Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 03:16 PM Jul 2012

Florida lifeguard says he's been offered his job back, he's not taking it

Gawd bless the internet!

Florida lifeguard says he's been offered his job back

The south Florida lifeguard fired for disregarding a protected area so he could save a swimmer outside that zone said Thursday he has been offered his job back.

But Tomas Lopez told CNN he does not plan to return to work.

The 21-year-old said his phone has been ringing off the hook with journalists trying to get his side of the story. He is set to make an appearance on CNN's "Erin Burnett OutFront" Thursday night.

"The reason I was fired is just ridiculous," Lopez told CNN late Wednesday. "It is a ridiculous rule, really. What was I supposed to do? Just let the guy drown?"


http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/05/us/florida-lifeguard-fired/index.html

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Florida lifeguard says he's been offered his job back, he's not taking it (Original Post) Liberal_in_LA Jul 2012 OP
And give the kid a raise, dammit! DocMac Jul 2012 #1
Plus he's going to get to talk with Erin Burnett. A very pretty air-head. AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #2
why is cnn doing a segment on it? why is this a national news event leftyohiolib Jul 2012 #3
That kid should have double the pay and a promotion.... NotThisTime Jul 2012 #4
Apparently those he worked with would have. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jul 2012 #7
"... I knew I had broken the rule," Lopez said. rocktivity Jul 2012 #5
Faced with collective action, employers back down. Will anybody learn from this? n/t Egalitarian Thug Jul 2012 #6
My own personal difficulty with this is, his employer has a valid point. Geoff R. Casavant Jul 2012 #8
Seems to me that the lifeguard who was in that zone should have been fired... cynatnite Jul 2012 #9
I think a revision to the zone policy is in order. Geoff R. Casavant Jul 2012 #11
there was no lifeguard in that zone.. frylock Jul 2012 #12
I still don't think that would warrant firing. NYC Liberal Jul 2012 #19
His zone was not left "unprotected," according to other lifeguards pinboy3niner Jul 2012 #14
Good to know, I had not heard that. Geoff R. Casavant Jul 2012 #15
I'm guessing he isn't a rMoney supporter. HopeHoops Jul 2012 #10
Yes, you were supposed to let the guy drown nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #13
The irony on the part of his former employer was incredible. lpbk2713 Jul 2012 #16
What about the six other lifeguards who were fired for SAYING they would have done the same thing. yellowcanine Jul 2012 #17
Life guards working on a public beach should be working for the county not some evil private company TNLib Jul 2012 #18

rocktivity

(44,573 posts)
5. "... I knew I had broken the rule," Lopez said.
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 03:25 PM
Jul 2012
"...(W)e are supposed to call 911 and hope they get there in time."





















rocktivity

Geoff R. Casavant

(2,381 posts)
8. My own personal difficulty with this is, his employer has a valid point.
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 03:37 PM
Jul 2012

His job was to protect swimmers in his zone. While he did the right thing rescuing someone, it must be remembered that doing so left his own zone unprotected.

I will be the first to admit I know nothing about the business of lifeguarding, and no question he did the right thing in hindsight, but it seems to me his first step should have been to determine that the lifeguard assigned to the distressed swimmer's zone was aware and capable of reaching the swimmer before leaving his own zone.

cynatnite

(31,011 posts)
9. Seems to me that the lifeguard who was in that zone should have been fired...
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 03:43 PM
Jul 2012

for not being available to rescue the drowning person.

If there was no one to rescue a drowning person (no matter what zone they're in), then the closest lifeguard available should be obligated to rescue.

This kid did his job.

Geoff R. Casavant

(2,381 posts)
11. I think a revision to the zone policy is in order.
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 03:48 PM
Jul 2012

I would bet there is a general prohibition about lifeguards leaving their zones while on duty, intended to prevent them from visiting the snack shack or otherwise leaving the zone unprotected. I would also bet it was not intended to prevent a capable lifeguard from rescuing a distressed swimmer due to an accident of geography. The policy should be clarified.

None of the articles I have read discuss the lifeguard who was responsible for that zone, and whether he/she was available, or even if he/she had already taken steps towards the rescue at the time. Obviously, if the lifeguard for a zone was already effecting a rescue, there is less justification for another lifeguard to leave his zone.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
12. there was no lifeguard in that zone..
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 03:59 PM
Jul 2012

signs were posted in that zone stating as much. swim at your own risk.

NYC Liberal

(20,135 posts)
19. I still don't think that would warrant firing.
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 05:26 PM
Jul 2012

If I was the employer, I'd perhaps explain why the policy is in place and then I'd come up with some way to anticipate the situation that happened.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
14. His zone was not left "unprotected," according to other lifeguards
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 04:22 PM
Jul 2012

In CNN interviews today, they said that two other lifeguards were monitoring the zone while Lopez performed the rescue.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
13. Yes, you were supposed to let the guy drown
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 04:09 PM
Jul 2012

this is the new privatized world. Incidents like yours bring this to stark light, good for you.

lpbk2713

(42,751 posts)
16. The irony on the part of his former employer was incredible.
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 04:51 PM
Jul 2012



Think about it ... they didn't want a life saving lifeguard on their payroll.

Now they're having to deal with the consequences of their actions.

Justice can be sweet some times.


yellowcanine

(35,698 posts)
17. What about the six other lifeguards who were fired for SAYING they would have done the same thing.
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 05:01 PM
Jul 2012

More troubling issues there it seems to me.

TNLib

(1,819 posts)
18. Life guards working on a public beach should be working for the county not some evil private company
Thu Jul 5, 2012, 05:21 PM
Jul 2012

I hat the privitazation of what should be public services.

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