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scheming daemons

(25,487 posts)
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 08:15 AM Mar 2017

Presidents who have hit 35% have had one of these three things as cause:

1. unpopular war
2. recession
3. watergate

So let's examine Trump.

He has inherited a strong economy from Obama and hasn't managed to fuck it up just yet, but he is well on his way.

He hasn't started a war yet, but he is obviously itching to.

Russiagate is growing, but it hasnt reached Spring of 1974 levels yet.

So Trump is at 35% BEFORE any of those three things have happened.... and he is on his way to all three of them happening soon.

I doubt that Trump is still President by the fall of 2018.... but if he is, all the gerrymandering in the world is not going to save the GOP from an historic thumping.

and then once the Democrats have the power of subpoena in the House following the 2018 midterms... if Trump is still President, the inpeachment hearings will begin on day 1. If Pence is, he will be a complete lame duck with severely clipped wings and probably wouldnt win a GOP primary for 2020.

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PJMcK

(21,995 posts)
4. Very good observations
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 09:03 AM
Mar 2017

The only caution I'd advise is that nearly all of our predictions regarding Trump have missed the mark.

By the way, I saw what you did with, "...an historic..." Nice!

ginnyinWI

(17,276 posts)
5. this is why I've gotten less worried about him.
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 09:58 AM
Mar 2017

When the Trumpcare bill was stillborn, I realized that he's got nothing, and is going nowhere. It's just a matter of time before he and the GOP majority are gone.

The people (most of us) ain't buying what they're selling!

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
6. What makes it worse for him is that he says he inherited "a mess" of an economy
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 09:59 AM
Mar 2017

So if it goes bad, as it will, then he'll have to do some more fancy dancing.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
7. I do think taking the House in 2018 is feasible
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 10:10 AM
Mar 2017

if Trump continues to drop in the polls....wave elections have seen huge changes - 1994 was over +50 for Republicans and 2010 was like +70 for Republicans; and 2006 was like +30 for Democrats.

That said, it would take a miracle for Democrats to retake the senate. Right now, it is 52 Republicans, 46 Democrats and 2 independents that caucus with the Democrats. In 2018, Democrats have to defend 25 seats, including 10 in states that Trump won. Republicans only have to defend 8 senate seats. Just holding even would be a huge victory for the Democrats given those odds and all the RW money flooding the airwaves and social media.

Enoki33

(1,587 posts)
10. Those that predicted that the damage to the GOP
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 11:28 AM
Mar 2017

was the actual Trump campaign itself have been proven wrong. The real Trump debacle is right before our very eyes. It is happening and growing now and will come to fruition in 2018. The more politicians like Nunes, Ryan and McConnell try to protect Trump the more they will be exposed for what they really are - self serving hypocrites. Personal power and party over country. Between them and Trump they won't need recession or unpopular war. They already have what could make Watergate pale in comparison. Beware of a Reichstag like incident to deflect attention.

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