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scheming daemons

(25,487 posts)
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 02:29 PM Mar 2017

With Trump cratering at 35% approval... look for Reichstag Fire II

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_fire


I look for a desperate Trump administration to manufacture an event.... finding a way to blame it on muslims, possibly even refugees (or possibly North Korea)... as an impetus to ramping up support for the war Trump desperately wants to start.

He wants that artificial "rally around the President during time of war" bump in his poll numbers - which would also muffle the calls for Russia investigations ("how can we spend time on this when WE'RE AT WAR!!!&quot


Just watch for it... it is coming.
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With Trump cratering at 35% approval... look for Reichstag Fire II (Original Post) scheming daemons Mar 2017 OP
Bannon knows some history, Trump knows nothing. Eliot Rosewater Mar 2017 #1
For all the moronic lemmings who "rallied around" Bushit after 9/11... MANative Mar 2017 #2
There ar 4 of them in my lifetime that I would go for the later departure. Doreen Mar 2017 #4
I've been waiting for a triggering event. GliderGuider Mar 2017 #3
This time it will be someplace other than the east coast, I suspect meadowlark5 Mar 2017 #5
Yeah, in Denver they could GWC58 Mar 2017 #6
What Brian Williams (msnbc) calls "Shiny Object Rule" Panich52 Mar 2017 #7
"Cratering"? He's still in his 100-day honeymoon! gratuitous Mar 2017 #8
I don't think he can help himself bellmartin Mar 2017 #9

Eliot Rosewater

(31,106 posts)
1. Bannon knows some history, Trump knows nothing.
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 02:32 PM
Mar 2017

But you are right, and Putin will be involved in the planning, too much at stake not to be.

MANative

(4,112 posts)
2. For all the moronic lemmings who "rallied around" Bushit after 9/11...
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 02:34 PM
Mar 2017

I sure as hell wasn't one of them. I'm FAR less inclined to rally around SCROTUS, except in celebration of his permanent departure from the Oval (or the planet, whichever comes first).

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
3. I've been waiting for a triggering event.
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 02:37 PM
Mar 2017

I think the beginning of serious pressure for impeachment would do it, but support dropping to 30% might be enough.

An attack in a Trumpist area by apparent Muslim jihadists killing a large number of people would do it.

If Putin is involved the possibilities are horrendous. And they've had two months for planning and logistics.

meadowlark5

(2,795 posts)
5. This time it will be someplace other than the east coast, I suspect
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 02:46 PM
Mar 2017

Trump won't want it in New York because that is his home. Florida off the list too. So I'm guessing it will be someplace that didn't vote for him that is friendly to immigrants and Muslims. I think their false flag would target California if they can. Denver with it's pot and diversity would be a good choice to make a bold statement about immigrants *and* the evils of legal pot. Not Las Vegas because Sheldon and Steve Wynn wouldn't like that.

So where do you think they'll do their fake terrorist attack?

GWC58

(2,678 posts)
6. Yeah, in Denver they could
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 02:54 PM
Mar 2017

kill two birds; immigration and shut down legal cannabis. Makes sense, at least to desperate and despicable minds!

Panich52

(5,829 posts)
7. What Brian Williams (msnbc) calls "Shiny Object Rule"
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 03:42 PM
Mar 2017

Or, after movie (and used on Pres Clinton) Wag the Dog

bellmartin

(218 posts)
9. I don't think he can help himself
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 04:58 PM
Mar 2017

I’m with you. The juxtaposition of past events, current events, and his personality traits seem to make a “Reichstag Fire” incident that appears to involve non-citizens here in the U.S. not just possible, but almost inevitable.

He’s bragged many times about knowingly parading a “Potemkin Village”-type show to get what he wanted. He either believes that “radical Islamic terrorism” is an existential threat, or (more likely) is callously willing to play on that belief in his followers, making extreme means to counter it justified by the end. He will not tolerate being proven wrong or denied the right to do something he wants, no matter how heinous.

It seems to me that it’s such a perfect fit for him and the current situation that he’ll OK it, even if one is expected and predicted by many people. In the simplistic vision he gravitates to, it’s been proven to work. However, I think that if the idea is in the air, a part of the public discussion before the event, it makes it that much easier for us to recognize and prove who the real guilty party was. And here’s a potential ace in the hole… while people have succeeded in such crimes before, and with enormous consequences, were they as incompetent, impetuous, and shockingly transparent in their lies as he is? I don’t think so. It may be the way we get rid of him quickly, when his people’s fingerprints are proven to be on it.

P.S.: The actual Reichstag fire occurred less than a month after Germany had elected the new chancellor, so you could say he’s behind schedule.

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