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redwitch

(14,941 posts)
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 11:12 AM Jun 2012

Will insurance be more affordable under ACA?

Self employed friend is freaked out over having to buy insurance because his costs are so high, daughter with health issues, diabetes for him. Will costs to buy insurance go down so he can actually afford it?

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Will insurance be more affordable under ACA? (Original Post) redwitch Jun 2012 OP
Useful link at Washington Post has a simple interactive view of what will happen enough Jun 2012 #1
it depends on his income levels in 2014 magical thyme Jun 2012 #2
I would love to find the threads with the calculators. redwitch Jun 2012 #6
here it is... magical thyme Jun 2012 #7
Thanks! redwitch Jun 2012 #8
Thanks. redwitch Jun 2012 #3
The cost of ins. is low compared to the cost of one overnight stay in a hospital. Tell him that. Honeycombe8 Jun 2012 #4
As I understand from commentators on NPR, snot Jun 2012 #5

enough

(13,255 posts)
1. Useful link at Washington Post has a simple interactive view of what will happen
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 11:33 AM
Jun 2012

Last edited Sat Jun 30, 2012, 01:09 PM - Edit history (1)

to insurance costs, subsidies, etc. Plug in your income, number of people in family, current insurance status.

A lot of interesting info there.

On edit, sorry I forgot to include the link. I'll blame it on the heat!

Link:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/politics/what-health-bill-means-for-you/?hpid=z2

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
2. it depends on his income levels in 2014
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 11:36 AM
Jun 2012

There was a thread yesterday with 2 links to 2 different calculators, where you put in your income and status and it spits out your cost of health insurance.

Turns out I'm currently so poor that if my economic status remains the same, it will cost me *less* to buy insurance than pay the penalty. Like it or not, unless my situation changes drastically one way or another in the next 2 years, for the first time in 20+ years, I will have health insurance.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
7. here it is...
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 12:10 PM
Jun 2012

the wapo link is in the OP. The other link is further down thread a bit.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002881187

At my miniscule income, my estimated insurance payments worked out to $85/mo versus $87/mo for the 1st year penalty.

redwitch

(14,941 posts)
3. Thanks.
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 11:39 AM
Jun 2012

He currently pays out of pocket and it has worked for him for meds, daughters are in Healthy New York plan which is affordable. He has tried to find insurance that he can afford and can't. I want to be able to tell him that this actually improves his personal situation.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
4. The cost of ins. is low compared to the cost of one overnight stay in a hospital. Tell him that.
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 11:39 AM
Jun 2012

With diabetes, he is at risk for many things to happen to him. Eye problems, infections that turn into systemic infections, stroke, cancer (I think), you name it. Not to mention the high cost of treating diabetes, since it is chronic.

One overnight stay in a hospital can be over $10,000, and might be $50,000.

He can buy a CHEAP, minimalist policy. Tell him to check out www.healthcare.gov for one stop shopping for a policy.

Costs for insurance have risen in the last two years, but they have risen only 4% or something, much less than it has risen in the decades before then. What happened two years ago? The ACA was passed.

snot

(10,502 posts)
5. As I understand from commentators on NPR,
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 11:45 AM
Jun 2012

if his income is below a certain level, he'll qualify for a subsidy.

Another provision that might help is a requirement that insurers must use at least 80% of the premiums they charge to pay actual health care costs – i.e., there's now a limit on the extent to which they can jack up premiums and use them to pay their own salaries, stockholder dividends, or other admin. costs. Theoretically, this should help limit premium increases.

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