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Sculpin Beauregard

(1,046 posts)
Mon Mar 20, 2017, 04:32 PM Mar 2017

Charge him with TREASON and seize all ASSETS

He needs every possible charged levelled against him and due to money laundering, his assets need to be seized. There needs to be a VERY, VERY STRONG MESSAGE SENT so that this never, ever, happens again. And it needs to be done quickly.

He is illegitimately occupying the White House. He is no president.

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Charge him with TREASON and seize all ASSETS (Original Post) Sculpin Beauregard Mar 2017 OP
I bet Intelligence is looking at his taxes now. SummerSnow Mar 2017 #1
You have witnesses, do you? brooklynite Mar 2017 #2
the lawyers can fight about the particularities, Sculpin Beauregard Mar 2017 #5
We are not at war, ergo not "Enemies" with Russia, truebluegreen Mar 2017 #9
Espionage then. The penalties are as great. shraby Mar 2017 #15
Got no problem with that. truebluegreen Mar 2017 #16
Have you written to Democratic leaders demanding they introduce a declaration of war against Russia? onenote Mar 2017 #21
Sometime witnesses are MFM008 Mar 2017 #12
This is twice that you made this point louis c Mar 2017 #17
...and if the OP had called for espionage charges, I would have stayed silent. brooklynite Mar 2017 #18
Let me see if I can explain this to you so that we both agree louis c Mar 2017 #19
We're all pissed as hell onenote Mar 2017 #3
No, but that didn't stop Trump and the GOP from KPN Mar 2017 #8
Remember -- 3 million more votes were cast for our candidate. onenote Mar 2017 #13
And what did that get us? Luciferous Mar 2017 #20
Good Luck With That SoCalMusicLover Mar 2017 #4
Trump's 'presidency' Sculpin Beauregard Mar 2017 #6
Do they know it's Fritzmas time at all? FSogol Mar 2017 #10
Magical thinking. truebluegreen Mar 2017 #7
Yes, fix him for good. BSdetect Mar 2017 #11
how about burying with just his head above the sand Motley13 Mar 2017 #14
The solution to the Donald Trump actions is very simple UCmeNdc Mar 2017 #22
I just want him and his grifter kids GONE from our government! MoonRiver Mar 2017 #23
K&R BSdetect Mar 2017 #24

brooklynite

(94,502 posts)
2. You have witnesses, do you?
Mon Mar 20, 2017, 04:36 PM
Mar 2017

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.

Sculpin Beauregard

(1,046 posts)
5. the lawyers can fight about the particularities,
Mon Mar 20, 2017, 04:44 PM
Mar 2017

which I am sure they will, but this stands out:

or in adhering to their enemies. The whole nation saw orange napoleon invite Russia to hack Clinton's emails. That is asking a foreign power to interfere in an election. The whole nation saw it! And that's just what the unwashed masses know, as of right now. Wait until the investigation is done.

Treason.

onenote

(42,694 posts)
21. Have you written to Democratic leaders demanding they introduce a declaration of war against Russia?
Tue Mar 21, 2017, 08:24 AM
Mar 2017

Have you demanded that Russia be named an "enemy" under the Trading With The Enemies Act? That diplomatic relations between the US and Russia be severed? That travel restrictions be imposed so that the quarter million Americans who visit Russia each year for tourism and business (and the large number of Russians coming to the US for the same purposes) are prevented from doing so? That the billions of dollars in bilateral trade between the countries be suspended?

If not why not? Because without those indicia that a state of war exists between Russia and the US, yelling "Treason" is just a lot of noise.

MFM008

(19,805 posts)
12. Sometime witnesses are
Mon Mar 20, 2017, 05:18 PM
Mar 2017

Evidence on paper. Payoffs for example. The money has to go somewhere.
Maggot is guilty of possible high crimes AND or misdemeanors.

 

louis c

(8,652 posts)
17. This is twice that you made this point
Mon Mar 20, 2017, 06:50 PM
Mar 2017

and both times it made no sense.

We all know the Constitution and the definition of Treason.

This would not be treason. It would technically be espionage. Just like the accusations against the Rosenberg's.

But everyone refers to the Rosenberg's as traitors. It's not the Constitutional definition, but it is engrained in our vernacular.

Guess what? You can be executed for espionage just like treason. And, in the end, you're just as dead.

 

louis c

(8,652 posts)
19. Let me see if I can explain this to you so that we both agree
Tue Mar 21, 2017, 07:19 AM
Mar 2017

Treason is not only a law defined in the US Constitution, but an act that has an English language dictionary definition.

Treason; noun | trea·son |ˈtrē-zən

Definition of treason

1. The betrayal of a trust; treachery

2. The offense of attempting by overt acts to overthrow the government of the state to which the offender owes allegiance or to kill or personally injure the sovereign or the sovereign's family.


As a result, espionage can be an act of treason by definition, but not under the Constitutional application of the law. Certainly, you would agree that if members of the Trump campaign conspired and colluded with Russia to advance a Russian foreign policy agenda in exchange for media leaks that caused the defeat of Hillary Clinton, that they not only broke laws, but they also betrayed their country and a "trust" that we all owe to our nation.
I know that's what I meant when you posted your same remark when I used treason and I think that the OP here is using the word "treason" the same way.


KPN

(15,642 posts)
8. No, but that didn't stop Trump and the GOP from
Mon Mar 20, 2017, 04:54 PM
Mar 2017

yelling "Lock her up" for the past 2 years. I know it goes against our basic grain, but maybe it's time Democrats start playing the same game for political gain.

 

SoCalMusicLover

(3,194 posts)
4. Good Luck With That
Mon Mar 20, 2017, 04:43 PM
Mar 2017

I swear, if I had a penny for every post I read at DU, saying that Shrub's days were numbered, I'd be a millionaire.

Seriously....it's nice to dream, but I'm sure Drumpf is going nowhere. Except perhaps to Florida every weekend.

Sculpin Beauregard

(1,046 posts)
6. Trump's 'presidency'
Mon Mar 20, 2017, 04:53 PM
Mar 2017

is orders of magnitude more shady with entanglements than Dubya's. It's off the charts in terms of corruption and incompetence. And it's only a few months in!

The damage is insane, already. He will be removed, of that I am sure. Hopefully sooner than later.

Motley13

(3,867 posts)
14. how about burying with just his head above the sand
Mon Mar 20, 2017, 05:34 PM
Mar 2017

& no chance of doing whatever he does to his phony hair.


that would really humiliate him, the hair, the hair!!!!!!


UCmeNdc

(9,600 posts)
22. The solution to the Donald Trump actions is very simple
Tue Mar 21, 2017, 08:31 AM
Mar 2017

You appoint a very competent independent prosecutor and give that prosecutor subpoena powers. You have the prosecutor hold a very comprehensive, thoroughly documented, independent investigation. The prosecutor's job will be to uphold the law and bring charges against anyone that broke the law plus bring back complete credibility to the American election system. It has to be done this way to bring a resolution to the problem plus ensure that the problem does not occur again.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
23. I just want him and his grifter kids GONE from our government!
Tue Mar 21, 2017, 08:32 AM
Mar 2017

IF the FBI comes up with reasons to charge him with treason, that would speed up the removal process, but I think he's toast anyway. Most importantly, we need to take back at least the House, so impeachment proceedings can begin immediately after the 2018 mid-terms.

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