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pangaia Mar 17 #1
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pangaia Mar 17 #11
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pnwmom Mar 17 #13
Hekate Mar 17 #22
Jonny Appleseed Mar 17 #2
NewDealProgressive Mar 17 #4
Jonny Appleseed Mar 17 #28
NewDealProgressive Mar 17 #3
NurseJackie Mar 17 #5
Blue_Tires Mar 17 #6
Cha Mar 17 #23
butdiduvote Mar 17 #7
Name removed Mar 17 #9
butdiduvote Mar 17 #10
Quixote1818 Mar 17 #27
BannonsLiver Mar 17 #12
mcar Mar 17 #14
Name removed Mar 17 #15
JHan Mar 17 #18
Hekate Mar 17 #21
peggysue2 Mar 17 #25
Go Vols Mar 17 #16
Progressive dog Mar 17 #19
Hekate Mar 17 #20
spanone Mar 17 #24
jalan48 Mar 17 #26
NastyRiffraff Mar 17 #29

Response to Name removed (Original post)

Fri Mar 17, 2017, 04:55 PM

1. But, but, he's not a Democrat??? Why doesn't he just join the Democratic Party?

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Response to Name removed (Reply #8)

Fri Mar 17, 2017, 05:20 PM

11. rowdie, I didn't think I would need the sarcasm thingy...






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Response to Name removed (Reply #8)

Fri Mar 17, 2017, 05:24 PM

13. No, he isn't. He's sending the message that the Democratic party isn't worthy of his support,

by refusing to align himself with people like Elizabeth Warren, Chuck Schumer, Patrick Leahy, and Sherrod Brown, etc.

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Response to Name removed (Reply #8)

Fri Mar 17, 2017, 05:55 PM

22. Strange that we have Blue Dog Dems from red districts who vote with us MORE, and yet...

...the purists want to primary them.

Hmmmm.

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Response to Name removed (Original post)

Fri Mar 17, 2017, 04:58 PM

2. I find him too repetitive

It's like he's perpetually quoting OccupyWallstreet slogans.

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Response to Jonny Appleseed (Reply #2)

Fri Mar 17, 2017, 04:59 PM

4. They were right too.

The truth never gets boring.

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Response to NewDealProgressive (Reply #4)

Fri Mar 17, 2017, 05:59 PM

28. It does when you say it in the exact same way every time

It's called desensitization.

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Fri Mar 17, 2017, 04:58 PM

3. Bernie has always been my guy.

I just didn't have any trouble transitioning when it came time to back Secretary Clinton. How could I when I knew the nightmare that is currently unfolding was the only other option?

It's just too damn bad others didn't see it that way. She would have made a great President.

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Fri Mar 17, 2017, 05:02 PM

5. Oh, good grief!


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Fri Mar 17, 2017, 05:04 PM

6. It's a two-way street lest you forget...

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Response to Blue_Tires (Reply #6)

Fri Mar 17, 2017, 05:56 PM

23. Excellent point, Blue_Tires! I LOVE Keith Ellison and Tom Perez.. they're

working FOR us!

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Fri Mar 17, 2017, 05:05 PM

7. I know plenty of non-Democrats who think he's delusionally idealistic

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Response to Name removed (Reply #9)

Fri Mar 17, 2017, 05:09 PM

10. Not all of them

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Response to butdiduvote (Reply #7)

Fri Mar 17, 2017, 05:59 PM

27. Some are my friends. They will rip on the free college thing and I will ask them


"Do you know how he is going to pay for it?" and NONE of them know so I inform them of the Wall Street Speculation tax and then they become silent.

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Fri Mar 17, 2017, 05:21 PM

12. ...

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Fri Mar 17, 2017, 05:28 PM

14. Unrec

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Response to Name removed (Reply #15)

Fri Mar 17, 2017, 05:45 PM

18. what I find offensive is that you assume that only you , and people who think like you,

care or are aware of the challenges. And I reject the idea that the left "Centrists" are the problem..it's this crazy thinking that gets us in trouble. I mentioned the ACA because what was the song and dance in 2009 with the tea party BS - "We don't want government in our healthcare" etc etc. Americans who had a negative view of the ACA are now clinging to it for dear life - what does that mean? It means ideas have shifted on an issue that used to be contentious and polarizing. So much for incrementalism being awful. The ACA is now the third rail for republicans, this was *unthinkable* a decade ago.

I'm one of many PoC's and women who supported Hillary, and understood what Obama was up against , to see this constant bashing over the dreaded "status quo" under Obama and "the establishment" is infuriating and affects enthusiasm for the party.

Under the "status quo" under Obama, there was no threat of the EPA weakening.. I don't need to recite all the other changes this President has wrought in just a month undoing the very status quo some on the left were complaining about last year.

Of course I want universal healthcare, I even want us to reach a place where we implement a UBI. I want to see an end to extractive industries.

But I also get that, yes, these things take time. That there are jobs on the line, that slow and steady change is better than rocking the boat so hard we all end up sinking. We were on the road to getting the things we want with Obama, and we're now at risk of losing decades of progress right before our very eyes with Trump. And Yet for some progressives , the enemy remains the DNC and the democratic party.

Amazing.

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Response to JHan (Reply #18)

Fri Mar 17, 2017, 05:52 PM

21. +100, JHan

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Response to Hekate (Reply #21)

Fri Mar 17, 2017, 05:58 PM

25. I second that!

Thank you, JHan. You said what needs to be said (maybe a thousand times) and said it well.

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Response to Name removed (Original post)

Fri Mar 17, 2017, 05:33 PM

16. :/

If they admit Sanders and progressive ideology has taken over the Party — hell, the country — then they have to start pushing for policies that their donors won’t accept: Tax hikes on the wealthy, tax hikes on investments, strengthening unions and worker protections, campaign finance reform, etc
.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/bernie-sanders-reigns-supreme-as-the-establishment-fumes/

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Fri Mar 17, 2017, 05:45 PM

19. Bernie lost the primary

He'll be too old to run in 2020 and he only was a Democrat for the time it took him to lose.
If by everyone they mean almost half of half the voters, they'd be right.

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Fri Mar 17, 2017, 05:48 PM

20. Bernie is a self-appointed public scold aimed solely at the perceived faults of the DEMS....

How much energy has he ever expended on the real enemies of the republic? Anyone know?

The Democratic Party allowed him to run as a Democrat, but what thanks did they/we ever get? To this day, he still won't be a Democrat, and the brunt of his criticisms are still aimed at the Dems.

Aside frm that, I have no problem with the silver haired solon.

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Fri Mar 17, 2017, 05:56 PM

24. 37 posts and this shit?????

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Fri Mar 17, 2017, 05:59 PM

26. Sanders talks mainly about economics and the obscene wealth disparity in the US.

For different reasons, not all Democrats think this should be the main message of the Party. When entrenched corporations, banks and financial institutions fund candidates it's difficult for those candidates to speak badly about our current system.

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Response to Name removed (Original post)

Fri Mar 17, 2017, 06:01 PM

29. Not this again!

Bernie. Lost. The. Primary. He lost it by a wide margin. It wasn't the Democratic Party that rejected him, it was he primary VOTERS. Deal with it, already. The VOTERS rejected him. Ever since he's been bitter and scolding the party that ALLOWED him to run as a Democrat, which in my opinion was a mistake.

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