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Fri Jun 29, 2012, 01:41 PM

Found it: By 2014, more people will be eligible for Medicaid

http://www.healthcare.gov/law/timeline/index.html

Increasing Access to Medicaid

Effective January 1, 2014

Americans who earn less than 133% of the poverty level (approximately $14,000 for an individual and $29,000 for a family of four) will be eligible to enroll in Medicaid. States will receive 100% federal funding for the first three years to support this expanded coverage, phasing to 90% federal funding in subsequent years.

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Reply Found it: By 2014, more people will be eligible for Medicaid (Original post)
shcrane71 Jun 2012 OP
Harmony Blue Jun 2012 #1
shcrane71 Jun 2012 #3
PotatoChip Jun 2012 #2
upaloopa Jun 2012 #4
shcrane71 Jun 2012 #5
nadinbrzezinski Jun 2012 #7
kelly1mm Jun 2012 #8
PotatoChip Jun 2012 #15
shcrane71 Jun 2012 #20
PotatoChip Jun 2012 #26
PoliticAverse Jun 2012 #21
PotatoChip Jun 2012 #27
nadinbrzezinski Jun 2012 #6
shcrane71 Jun 2012 #10
SammyWinstonJack Jun 2012 #28
nadinbrzezinski Jun 2012 #29
kelly1mm Jun 2012 #9
Recursion Jun 2012 #11
shcrane71 Jun 2012 #12
EFerrari Jun 2012 #13
shcrane71 Jun 2012 #16
EFerrari Jun 2012 #18
shcrane71 Jun 2012 #19
kestrel91316 Jun 2012 #14
shcrane71 Jun 2012 #17
HopeHoops Jun 2012 #22
shcrane71 Jun 2012 #23
HopeHoops Jun 2012 #24
great white snark Jun 2012 #25

Response to shcrane71 (Original post)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 01:45 PM

1. Basically, this has huge positive implications

to the Red poorer states in the Union like New Mexico, Florida, Georgia, etc.

Starting pay for college grads with four year degrees in the south is just above 29k in their respective fields. Most workers that are wage workers in the south hover around the 25k mark, Full time, and half that if part time (very common trend to see wage workers part time at multiple jobs now).



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Response to Harmony Blue (Reply #1)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 01:52 PM

3. The real goodies start in 2014... Of course, Massachusetts already

has access to affordable healthcare thanks to the flip/flopper Romeny, who is vowing that the rest of the country doesn't have the same access.

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Response to shcrane71 (Original post)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 01:47 PM

2. Great find. Thanks!



Going back to read some more...

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Response to shcrane71 (Original post)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 02:00 PM

4. Not so fast. Part of the SCOTUS ruling was that States could opt out of the additional Medicaid.

Red states my try to please the tea nuts and opt out thus not increasing the number eligible for Medicaid.

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Response to upaloopa (Reply #4)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 02:03 PM

5. Isn't if if they choose to opt-out, they must provide a plan that ensures their citizens

coverage at an equal or greater rate? I know Vermont is opting out to provide a single payer system by 2017.

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Response to shcrane71 (Reply #5)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 02:06 PM

7. Some of that was taken out

But it will become a political football

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Response to shcrane71 (Reply #5)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 02:06 PM

8. No, that was what the ACA said (opt out only if you have equal/greater plan) but the SC struck that

as well as the 133% medicaid provision being mandatory on the states.

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Response to shcrane71 (Reply #5)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 03:02 PM

15. Question(s).. For *anyone* in the know...

First, has Vermont actually passed a Single Payer plan?... As in State House, State Senate, and signed by their Governor? And if so, have there been no challenges either by state referendum, or their state judicial branch of government?

Just wondering, because such a victory should have been huge news. Especially when you consider the fact that other state legislatures have been trying to pass Single Payer legislation since as early as 1998. That I know of... Possibly earlier, in places that I am unaware of. Maybe I just didn't get the memo.

Re: the opt-out option; wouldn't Vermont have to have an actual plan, working and in place, in order to remove themselves from the ACA?

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Response to PotatoChip (Reply #15)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 03:35 PM

20. Vermont passed Single Payer in 2011.

The opt-out portion of the healthcare law doesn't going into effect until 2017. Go to healthcare.gov and then go to the timeline.

Here's your information:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002874818

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Response to shcrane71 (Reply #20)

Sat Jun 30, 2012, 10:59 AM

26. This is great news

And since the opt-out portion of the law does not go into effect until 2017, it will presumably give Vermont time to get their plan up and running.

Thanks for the info and kudos to Vermont!!! I now vaguely remember some talk of this on DU2, but never did find out the full outcome for whatever reason. This is a big deal! It seems to me that there should have been more coverage in print and network media though. Maybe there was, and I just missed it somehow ?... (I don't get cable news)

My apologies for not getting back to you sooner- shortly after your post to me, we got walloped by mega thunderstorms. Even lost power for a little while.

Wish we could all have Single Payer, but am happy that we got most of the ACA through. It's definitely a very good start!

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Response to PoliticAverse (Reply #21)

Sat Jun 30, 2012, 11:01 AM

27. Thank you for the info PoliticAverse.

It was very helpful!

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Response to upaloopa (Reply #4)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 02:06 PM

6. Yes, and you can bet they will not opt out.

Or if they do, well political hell comes to mind as their costs continue to rise. Hospitals will lobby, to end caring for the very sick in the ER.

By 2014 this will be old nooz.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #6)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 02:13 PM

10. I think you're right. There's going to be too much political pressure to opt-in

from healthcare providers. It's simply bad business practices to leave that money on the table:

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/06/28/12464332-health-care-ruling-could-leave-poorest-americans-at-greatest-risk

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #6)

Sat Jun 30, 2012, 11:06 AM

28. Heh. Gov Goodhair will opt out. You can take that to the bank!

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Response to SammyWinstonJack (Reply #28)

Sat Jun 30, 2012, 11:59 AM

29. That is UNTIL the powerful medical lobby

reminds him of their power... you think the Houston Hospital association, a powerful donor to repub causes, will not lobby for political purity?

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Response to shcrane71 (Original post)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 02:11 PM

9. This will allow me to retire early in 2014. I will be 43. Already have paid for house/farm

and no debt. My non-tax deferred investments generate about $17K per year. Wife and I have been thinking of early retirement but the cost of health care was the stumbling block. Since we would qualify for medicaid now at 133% of the poverty line we should be good to go.

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Response to shcrane71 (Original post)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 02:15 PM

11. This is the part most affected by the court ruling

There's a carrot (90% of the tab) and there was a stick (losing the rest of your Medicaid funding). The carrot is still there but the stick is gone; it's not clear yet what that will mean.

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Response to Recursion (Reply #11)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 02:21 PM

12. How can anyone vote for Romney, who basically passed this plan for Massachusetts

and now vows to repeal it for everyone else. Seriously? WTF?

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Response to shcrane71 (Reply #12)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 02:29 PM

13. Romney is out on the stump denouncing the president and the plan.

Which is firmly connected to Obama, not Romney, in the minds of the Republican base. That's how.

ETA: As I type this, a "repealitnow.org" commercial is on the GMC channel,

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Response to EFerrari (Reply #13)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 03:11 PM

16. I'm happy that they're calling it Obamacare, though it was Romney's first...

If Romney repeals it, then he'll be to blame for all the uninsured and deaths, and Obama is the hero.

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Response to shcrane71 (Reply #16)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 03:26 PM

18. Remember that the opposition's base doesn't give a damn

if people are uninsured or if they die. They rationalize it by blaming the victims.

Whenever we come up with a narrative that makes sense, we need to come up with the parallel one that makes sense to them because it's rarely if ever the same one.

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Response to EFerrari (Reply #18)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 03:32 PM

19. OK, Narrative for Republicans, this will create businesses

All those Republican couples where one is toiling away at a thankless, low-paying job just for the healthcare days are gone. Quit. Get affordable healthcare and grow your business without the fear of going bankrupt.

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Response to shcrane71 (Original post)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 02:37 PM

14. This is why the RW doesn't WANT Medicaid. At all. They want these poor to do without healthcare

altogether and DIE.

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Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #14)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 03:12 PM

17. I agree, but they're playing with fire there... Health care providers are going to

want that money that's been promised to pay for poor patients.

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Response to shcrane71 (Original post)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 05:07 PM

22. Excellent site.

 

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Response to HopeHoops (Reply #22)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 06:18 PM

23. Yeah, thank you Obama Administration for the site...

Ok, I have to admit I've been mad, mad, mad at Obama. I wanted Single Payer so badly. I was pissed that I had to wait to 2014 to get the bennies of ACA, but now that I may actually get healthcare in a little over a year, I'm getting giddy. I just have to hold off getting sick til then.

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Response to shcrane71 (Reply #23)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 06:22 PM

24. It's a major step in the right direction.

 

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Response to shcrane71 (Reply #23)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 06:24 PM

25. Baby steps.

We ALL wanted single pay shcrane71 but if this was defeated the momentum would have taken decades to come back.

You stay well.

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