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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI know people who this will HELP, or already has helped
is it a perfect bill? Hardly, but I have yet to meet a perfect bill.
Some were patients of mine, like the young man we ended up transporting to the ER and later to a US hospital with a broken neck... (and one of the luckiest people I know)... you know why he did not want to be transported? THE COST.
Then there is my niece... she gets to stay on dad's until she is 26.
There is also the kid we transported who had an asthma attack, who we controlled. We had to refer her to a private provider in Mexico, why? Her family had no health care in the US... that dang pre existing...
Of course there are a few with things like Diabetes.
You get the picture, I knew that the health care system was in trouble... and I hope this will go a LONG WAY in ending this crap.
Those of you who are or were medical providers you know this. You have had to meet the eyes of a scared patient who knows they cannot afford it... the rest, especially the right wing, you should see it. It might touch something in your heart.
And to those bemoaning this, who are liberal... Social Security was not perfect either. In fact, that ACT, is very different than what we got today.
peacebird
(14,195 posts)She has a pre existing condition that had left them in fear of losing their home of she got sick. With ACA they can buy coverage and the comfort of knowing their home is safe.
DainBramaged
(39,191 posts)Texasgal
(17,042 posts)you are correct. I am still trying to educate myself on the whole bill...lot's of reading.
It's interesting the comments i am seeing here, like so many did not know that pre-existing conditions are no longer an issue and that so many health maintains are covered.. IE: colonoscopies, breast screenings, pap smears and diabetes testing just to mention a FEW.
We need to read the whole bill and try to understand the good things in it! I am still learning myself.
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)I take it very personally when the closet freepers on DU get to railing about what a HORRIBLE thing this bill is.
They want ME to get sick, be unable to see a doctor, and die as far as I'm concerned.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)turtlerescue1
(1,013 posts)I call it a Natural life expectancy. NO doctors. No meds. Just whatever Life gives.
TheKentuckian
(25,023 posts)Or is it possible for people of good conscience to disagree with the construction of a program that has very real positive benefits for real people in need?
I understand the emotion but it isn't rational or fair but you are entitled to feel any way you like.
If I want you sick, unable to seek treatment, and to die then anyone including me (again, damn I'm diabolical) and maybe you who opposed Part D wanted suffering and death for seniors and maybe even more heartless considering it wasn't coming out of our pockets and had no impact on any of us by the same logic.
Do I also want you to be blown to bits in a terror attack because I oppose the Patriot Act?
Do I want to take away your family plot because I believe in an inheritance tax?
Do I want some rigger's kids to go to bed hungry because I'm not pro-drilling?
If I don't watch my ass I'll be worse than Hitler but I also am willing to bet we can comb your policy positions and wildly accuse you of being a monster too. What ever serves the agenda, right?
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)do without medical care and possibly die as a result.
Some might consider that genocidal. I don't know that I'd disagree.
TheKentuckian
(25,023 posts)and if so did you throw the murder label around on those who did not?
If so how did you morally remain a Democrat? Maybe the old TeaPubliKlans are the life savers the way they voted to make sure seniors had access to life saving medicine?
slipslidingaway
(21,210 posts)with the lifting of the lifetime cap.
That being said I'm still rather annoyed that the Dems took a SP not for profit system off the table of discussion under Clinton and then under Obama. I said from the very beginning if the Dems wanted a strong bill they needed to let SP advocates into the discussion, they did not. Many people will continue to go bankrupt and many people will receive inferior care. I've seen the eyes (and lived with people for months) who thought they were receiving inferior care and wished they could go to another doctor or hospital, the injustice still brings tears to my eyes.
It is something, but the bill could have been So much better if the Dems really fought, all IMHO
Electro
(13 posts)who suffers from congestive heart failure. I found out soon after being laid off a few months back.
After my health insurance runs out I assume I will have cobra available for whatever amount of time they give, hopefully I can afford the payments.
After that....? Who knows. I'm too young to go on permanent disability, I'd only make 600 or so a month which isn't nearly enough for where I live.
I'll have to get a job, something at a desk so it doesn't interfere with the heart failure (I used to do electrical work which my cardiologist says I absolutely can't do).
My concern has been that even if I find a job with health insurance, they won't cover me for my pre-existing condition. So what would be the point in having insurance if they wouldn't cover me for the most likely things that would happen to me (heart attack, stroke, heart transplant, defibrillator/pacemaker device, etc.)?
So today it SEEMS like there is good news for me. From what I can tell, they won't be able to deny me coverage or charge me way too much for the pre-existing condition. I say "SEEMS" like it because I am not completely sure of the in's and out's of the deal. I wanted to make a new thread asking about it, but I don't have enough posts.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)So you don't have to pay for insurance - we'll pay for it through taxes. And there's no pre-existing conditions for that.
Electro
(13 posts)In order for me to get medicaid, don't I have to get permanent disability too?
From what I know, it will be a big fight that will take years and a lawyer for me to get SS disability. That's why I haven't even bothered to apply. And I also won't get enough money to live on, which is why I would have to find some type of work instead. Would medicaid still be available for me?
jeff47
(26,549 posts)And it's only a big fight in marginal cases. If you are describing your condition accurately, it should be fairly quick.