Wed Jun 27, 2012, 10:39 PM
WillyT (45,585 posts)
We're Doomed... 'Axelrod: Obama Win Will 'Liberate' Republicans To Work With President' - TheHill
Axelrod: Obama win will 'liberate' Republicans to work with president
By Ian Swanson - TheHill 06/24/12 08:13 AM ET <snip> Republicans of “good will” who want to work with President Obama will be “liberated” by his reelection in November, says Obama chief political strategist David Axelrod. In an interview with C-SPAN, Axelrod said there are plenty of Republicans who would like to work with Obama but have been unable to because of a “kind of reign of terror” in which any act of cooperation with the president was seen as a betrayal. Yet Axelrod insisted there are Republicans “of good will” would would like to work with Obama. “My belief is that when the president wins in November, we’re going to liberate these Republicans of good will,” Axelrod said. He added that those Republicans will “blink into the light of a new day and they’re going to turn to the Grover Norquists of the world, frankly as Jeb Bush has recently, and say, ‘You know we did it your way, and frankly that was a failure for the country, and also for the Republican Party, and now we’re going to work together.’” <snip> More: http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/234423-axelrod-obama-win-will-liberate-republicans-to-work-with-president
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| WillyT | Jun 2012 | OP | |
| boxman15 | Jun 2012 | #1 | |
| toddwv | Jun 2012 | #2 | |
| boxman15 | Jun 2012 | #5 | |
| agent46 | Jun 2012 | #3 | |
| Enrique | Jun 2012 | #16 | |
| madrchsod | Jun 2012 | #23 | |
| Huey P. Long | Jun 2012 | #37 | |
| Warren Stupidity | Jun 2012 | #34 | |
| sadbear | Jun 2012 | #4 | |
| MrSlayer | Jun 2012 | #6 | |
| stillwaiting | Jun 2012 | #27 | |
| WorseBeforeBetter | Jun 2012 | #7 | |
| MannyGoldstein | Jun 2012 | #8 | |
| pscot | Jun 2012 | #13 | |
| Enrique | Jun 2012 | #18 | |
| UnrepentantLiberal | Jun 2012 | #25 | |
| Kolesar | Jun 2012 | #26 | |
| midnight | Jun 2012 | #29 | |
| Huey P. Long | Jun 2012 | #33 | |
| NCTraveler | Jun 2012 | #35 | |
| Autumn | Jun 2012 | #9 | |
| DevonRex | Jun 2012 | #10 | |
| -Seriously-2012 | Jun 2012 | #12 | |
| DevonRex | Jun 2012 | #17 | |
| -Seriously-2012 | Jun 2012 | #11 | |
| snooper2 | Jun 2012 | #14 | |
| MannyGoldstein | Jun 2012 | #15 | |
| Avalux | Jun 2012 | #19 | |
| DevonRex | Jun 2012 | #20 | |
| Avalux | Jun 2012 | #21 | |
| Kolesar | Jun 2012 | #28 | |
| Huey P. Long | Jun 2012 | #36 | |
| Kolesar | Jun 2012 | #38 | |
| madrchsod | Jun 2012 | #22 | |
| Laelth | Jun 2012 | #24 | |
| Arkana | Jun 2012 | #30 | |
| CTyankee | Jun 2012 | #31 | |
| DCBob | Jun 2012 | #32 |
Response to WillyT (Original post)
Wed Jun 27, 2012, 10:43 PM
boxman15 (1,029 posts)
1. I don't think Axelrod or Obama think this way.
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It's more of an election year line. "You hate congressional gridlock? Re-elect the president, give him more Democrats, and they'll all be able to work with Republicans who are sensible and won't work only to destroy him!"
Nobody for a second believes it, but it might play well with moderates who don't pay too much attention to politics. |
Response to boxman15 (Reply #1)
Wed Jun 27, 2012, 10:46 PM
toddwv (2,054 posts)
2. I wish I knew that for sure...
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unfortunately, the Obama Administration took about 3 years too long to realize that the Republicans had no intentions of working with him.
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Response to toddwv (Reply #2)
Wed Jun 27, 2012, 10:49 PM
boxman15 (1,029 posts)
5. That's very true.
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But I don't think he still believes they'll work with him. After the whole debt ceiling bullshit, he hasn't been exactly friendly with them.
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Response to boxman15 (Reply #1)
Wed Jun 27, 2012, 10:46 PM
agent46 (859 posts)
3. Bullshit
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Last edited Wed Jun 27, 2012, 10:48 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) Bi-partisanship is code for a one party system and the Republicans don't even want that.
Obama is all we got and he's ideologically hogtied. Good intentions are no longer enough. I'm agreeing with you. |
Response to boxman15 (Reply #1)
Wed Jun 27, 2012, 11:23 PM
Enrique (22,631 posts)
16. it makes perfect sense to me
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Obama is saying, I havent gotten certain things done because the GOP is blocking me. A pragmatic minded independent voter with no particular loyalty to the Democratic Party might say, well, the GOP is going to block you in the 2nd term too so youre not going to get these things done then either. So it makes perfect sense to paint this picture of how things are going to be different next time.
What you said about people not paying a lot of attention is right on, imho. |
Response to Enrique (Reply #16)
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 12:04 AM
madrchsod (55,732 posts)
23. i agree...
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there`s more declared independent voters this election year. it`s close to one third of the electorate.
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Response to madrchsod (Reply #23)
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 12:03 PM
Huey P. Long (1,932 posts)
37. They're more 'independents' because the Democratic admin. is not acting with Democratic ideals.
Response to boxman15 (Reply #1)
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 09:11 AM
Warren Stupidity (31,934 posts)
34. Ok but they act this way.
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So it really doesn't matter much what they think.
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Response to WillyT (Original post)
Wed Jun 27, 2012, 10:48 PM
sadbear (4,219 posts)
4. At least they're consistent, huh?
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President Obama will have to make the case that it has been the republicans' fault for the "lack of progress" (you see, the republicans have already won that debate). It didn't work too well in 2010. Maybe they'll have better luck this year.
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Response to WillyT (Original post)
Wed Jun 27, 2012, 10:51 PM
MrSlayer (21,355 posts)
6. They never learn, do they?
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They'll be doubling down on the lunacy if he wins re-election. And let's wait and see what Citizen's United does to the Congress.
If they keep the house and get the Senate, all the newbies will be teabaggers. Dangerously naive still is Mr. Axelrod. |
Response to MrSlayer (Reply #6)
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 08:20 AM
stillwaiting (817 posts)
27. There is a reason for their "naivety".
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It allows so much good to be done... For the 1%.
It completely demoralizes many of us on the left who would like to see them do something for the 99%. Psychological warfare at its best. Learned helplessness defined. Make the left tune out, give up, and drop out. Lowered or zero expectations allows the status quo to continue, and when the left actually begins to mobilize and remotely challenge the Democrats effectively we repeatedly get called names and are told to shut up. At this point giving the Republicans in Congress cover is tantamount to a betrayal of the American people. It has always seemed to me that elected Democrats #1 goal is to ensure the viability and continuance of the Republican Party. They have done so in a number of ways over the past decade. We still MUST elect Democrats in this country, and we should begin protesting their asses the day after they get elected to raise awareness in this country of what we are fighting against. |
Response to WillyT (Original post)
Wed Jun 27, 2012, 10:56 PM
WorseBeforeBetter (7,663 posts)
7. "Blink into the light of a new day," Republicans!
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Axelrod is in fairy dust territory.
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Response to WillyT (Original post)
Wed Jun 27, 2012, 10:59 PM
MannyGoldstein (21,453 posts)
8. Axelrod is a good man, and a smart man.
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Last edited Wed Jun 27, 2012, 11:00 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) Personally, I think that after last year's three free trade bills and this year's Cantor-Obama JOBS act, we Democrats are finally making up for years of not being sensitive to the needs of Republicans. While they won't admit it yet, I think Republicans are beginning to see that they can trust us again. If we can just work with them to get the hyper-austerity provisions of Simpson-Bowles passed, I expect they'll finally see their way clear to working with us again.
Together, we can give more money to the Job Creators than either party could working alone. Sincerely, Third-Way Manny |
Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #8)
Wed Jun 27, 2012, 11:14 PM
pscot (13,921 posts)
13. You've been channeling the President again
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I'm impressed with your clarity of vision, but maybe you should cut down on your ibogain intake. Or increase it.
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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #8)
Wed Jun 27, 2012, 11:29 PM
Enrique (22,631 posts)
18. Grand Bargain here we come
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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #8)
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 08:08 AM
UnrepentantLiberal (11,700 posts)
25. Whoa there, tiger.
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That's a little too much change I can believe in. Easy does it, Third-Way Nanny.
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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #8)
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 08:16 AM
Kolesar (29,328 posts)
26. That was good ... eom
Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #8)
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 08:39 AM
midnight (23,453 posts)
29. Thanks Manny for interpreting the nonsense...
Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #8)
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 09:03 AM
Huey P. Long (1,932 posts)
33. The Grand Bargain to make final the stolen SS funds, and the TPP here we come!
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Obama Trade Deal To Put Corporations Above The Law
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Response to WillyT (Original post)
Wed Jun 27, 2012, 11:03 PM
Autumn (11,308 posts)
9. "Republicans of “good will”
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No such thing. |
Response to WillyT (Original post)
Wed Jun 27, 2012, 11:08 PM
DevonRex (19,951 posts)
10. I love Axelrod's sense of humor.
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Priceless.
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Response to DevonRex (Reply #10)
Wed Jun 27, 2012, 11:12 PM
-Seriously-2012 (3 posts)
12. You need to get out more if you think he's funny
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Response to -Seriously-2012 (Reply #12)
Wed Jun 27, 2012, 11:28 PM
DevonRex (19,951 posts)
17. Bye bye troll.
Response to WillyT (Original post)
-Seriously-2012 This message was hidden by Jury decision.
Response to -Seriously-2012 (Reply #11)
Wed Jun 27, 2012, 11:19 PM
snooper2 (16,618 posts)
14. He was just baiting the fucking idiot republicans thinking of the future
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who he knew would win the house in 2010 due to the fact not enough white people came to the polls even though the cat calls went out...
Kind of like this scene.. Oh, what do you do for a living by the way? Are you Cindy's brother? |
Response to -Seriously-2012 (Reply #11)
Wed Jun 27, 2012, 11:19 PM
MannyGoldstein (21,453 posts)
15. Not bad, but the "?!?!?!?" is a dead giveaway
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Your facts are off, the grammar needs some work, but the spelling is OK! I'm guessing you discovered spell check, good stuff!
Anyway, enjoy your brief stay. BTW, did you know that unemployment was reduced by 40% in FDR's first term? That's what Liberal policies can do. |
Response to WillyT (Original post)
Wed Jun 27, 2012, 11:32 PM
Avalux (28,941 posts)
19. This is genius, actually. I love that he used the word "liberate"
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"Liberate" Republicans? That word liberate sure does sound like liberal. As in - when Obama wins, they'll happily fall in line, turned into liberals and work with the President. Think of the hidden meaning in the use of that specific word. It wasn't an accident.
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Response to Avalux (Reply #19)
Wed Jun 27, 2012, 11:35 PM
DevonRex (19,951 posts)
20. I agree. There's humor there in several
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ways. I love it.
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Response to DevonRex (Reply #20)
Wed Jun 27, 2012, 11:44 PM
Avalux (28,941 posts)
21. I'm glad someone agrees with me -
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and you're right, the whole thing is funny as hell.
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Response to Avalux (Reply #19)
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 08:24 AM
Kolesar (29,328 posts)
28. I expect that the economy will grow in 2013 because there is only so much fuckingup that they can do
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Those GOPtards found ways to politicize work as bland as highway construction. That pissed off their supporters in the construction industry/lobby.
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Response to Kolesar (Reply #28)
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 11:38 AM
Huey P. Long (1,932 posts)
36. Joke post? Keep 'hope' alive. -eom
Response to Huey P. Long (Reply #36)
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 12:17 PM
Kolesar (29,328 posts)
38. Wow. Put a lot of effort into that one...eom
Response to WillyT (Original post)
Wed Jun 27, 2012, 11:55 PM
madrchsod (55,732 posts)
22. well that was the way things used to be...
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until the republicans decided to go hard right and the democrats chased them over the center.
democracy needs two or more healthy parties to stop the tyranny of one party control. |
Response to WillyT (Original post)
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 08:00 AM
Laelth (13,365 posts)
24. Hope springs eternal.
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I think Axelrod is either fooling himself or trying to fool all of us.
-Laelth |
Response to WillyT (Original post)
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 08:40 AM
Arkana (22,227 posts)
30. Strictly speaking, I suppose he's correct
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but those Republicans are getting drummed out of the party en masse, so by November Axelrod will be wrong.
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Response to WillyT (Original post)
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 08:41 AM
CTyankee (35,047 posts)
31. From your mouth to God's ear, Axe...
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but that sounds awfully rational to me...and one thing these zealots are NOT is rational...they will literally drive us all off the cliff before that happens...
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Response to WillyT (Original post)
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 08:55 AM
DCBob (14,773 posts)
32. This message is targeted to the independents/moderates who fear political gridlock..
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Last edited Thu Jun 28, 2012, 08:56 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1) if the President is reelected. Clearly the party base does not want to hear this.
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