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Wed Jun 27, 2012, 10:39 PM

We're Doomed... 'Axelrod: Obama Win Will 'Liberate' Republicans To Work With President' - TheHill

Axelrod: Obama win will 'liberate' Republicans to work with president
By Ian Swanson - TheHill
06/24/12 08:13 AM ET

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Republicans of “good will” who want to work with President Obama will be “liberated” by his reelection in November, says Obama chief political strategist David Axelrod.

In an interview with C-SPAN, Axelrod said there are plenty of Republicans who would like to work with Obama but have been unable to because of a “kind of reign of terror” in which any act of cooperation with the president was seen as a betrayal.

Yet Axelrod insisted there are Republicans “of good will” would would like to work with Obama.
“My belief is that when the president wins in November, we’re going to liberate these Republicans of good will,” Axelrod said.

He added that those Republicans will “blink into the light of a new day and they’re going to turn to the Grover Norquists of the world, frankly as Jeb Bush has recently, and say, ‘You know we did it your way, and frankly that was a failure for the country, and also for the Republican Party, and now we’re going to work together.’”


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More: http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/234423-axelrod-obama-win-will-liberate-republicans-to-work-with-president







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Reply We're Doomed... 'Axelrod: Obama Win Will 'Liberate' Republicans To Work With President' - TheHill (Original post)
WillyT Jun 2012 OP
boxman15 Jun 2012 #1
toddwv Jun 2012 #2
boxman15 Jun 2012 #5
agent46 Jun 2012 #3
Enrique Jun 2012 #16
madrchsod Jun 2012 #23
Huey P. Long Jun 2012 #37
Warren Stupidity Jun 2012 #34
sadbear Jun 2012 #4
MrSlayer Jun 2012 #6
stillwaiting Jun 2012 #27
WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2012 #7
MannyGoldstein Jun 2012 #8
pscot Jun 2012 #13
Enrique Jun 2012 #18
UnrepentantLiberal Jun 2012 #25
Kolesar Jun 2012 #26
midnight Jun 2012 #29
Huey P. Long Jun 2012 #33
NCTraveler Jun 2012 #35
Autumn Jun 2012 #9
DevonRex Jun 2012 #10
-Seriously-2012 Jun 2012 #12
DevonRex Jun 2012 #17
-Seriously-2012 Jun 2012 #11
snooper2 Jun 2012 #14
MannyGoldstein Jun 2012 #15
Avalux Jun 2012 #19
DevonRex Jun 2012 #20
Avalux Jun 2012 #21
Kolesar Jun 2012 #28
Huey P. Long Jun 2012 #36
Kolesar Jun 2012 #38
madrchsod Jun 2012 #22
Laelth Jun 2012 #24
Arkana Jun 2012 #30
CTyankee Jun 2012 #31
DCBob Jun 2012 #32

Response to WillyT (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 10:43 PM

1. I don't think Axelrod or Obama think this way.

It's more of an election year line. "You hate congressional gridlock? Re-elect the president, give him more Democrats, and they'll all be able to work with Republicans who are sensible and won't work only to destroy him!"

Nobody for a second believes it, but it might play well with moderates who don't pay too much attention to politics.

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Response to boxman15 (Reply #1)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 10:46 PM

2. I wish I knew that for sure...

unfortunately, the Obama Administration took about 3 years too long to realize that the Republicans had no intentions of working with him.

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Response to toddwv (Reply #2)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 10:49 PM

5. That's very true.

But I don't think he still believes they'll work with him. After the whole debt ceiling bullshit, he hasn't been exactly friendly with them.

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Response to boxman15 (Reply #1)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 10:46 PM

3. Bullshit

Bi-partisanship is code for a one party system and the Republicans don't even want that.

Obama is all we got and he's ideologically hogtied. Good intentions are no longer enough.

I'm agreeing with you.

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Response to boxman15 (Reply #1)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 11:23 PM

16. it makes perfect sense to me

Obama is saying, I havent gotten certain things done because the GOP is blocking me. A pragmatic minded independent voter with no particular loyalty to the Democratic Party might say, well, the GOP is going to block you in the 2nd term too so youre not going to get these things done then either. So it makes perfect sense to paint this picture of how things are going to be different next time.

What you said about people not paying a lot of attention is right on, imho.

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Response to Enrique (Reply #16)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 12:04 AM

23. i agree...

there`s more declared independent voters this election year. it`s close to one third of the electorate.

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Response to madrchsod (Reply #23)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 12:03 PM

37. They're more 'independents' because the Democratic admin. is not acting with Democratic ideals.

 

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Response to boxman15 (Reply #1)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 09:11 AM

34. Ok but they act this way.

So it really doesn't matter much what they think.

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 10:48 PM

4. At least they're consistent, huh?

President Obama will have to make the case that it has been the republicans' fault for the "lack of progress" (you see, the republicans have already won that debate). It didn't work too well in 2010. Maybe they'll have better luck this year.

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 10:51 PM

6. They never learn, do they?

 

They'll be doubling down on the lunacy if he wins re-election. And let's wait and see what Citizen's United does to the Congress.
If they keep the house and get the Senate, all the newbies will be teabaggers.

Dangerously naive still is Mr. Axelrod.

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Response to MrSlayer (Reply #6)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 08:20 AM

27. There is a reason for their "naivety".

It allows so much good to be done... For the 1%.

It completely demoralizes many of us on the left who would like to see them do something for the 99%. Psychological warfare at its best. Learned helplessness defined. Make the left tune out, give up, and drop out. Lowered or zero expectations allows the status quo to continue, and when the left actually begins to mobilize and remotely challenge the Democrats effectively we repeatedly get called names and are told to shut up.

At this point giving the Republicans in Congress cover is tantamount to a betrayal of the American people. It has always seemed to me that elected Democrats #1 goal is to ensure the viability and continuance of the Republican Party. They have done so in a number of ways over the past decade.

We still MUST elect Democrats in this country, and we should begin protesting their asses the day after they get elected to raise awareness in this country of what we are fighting against.

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 10:56 PM

7. "Blink into the light of a new day," Republicans!

Axelrod is in fairy dust territory.

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 10:59 PM

8. Axelrod is a good man, and a smart man.

Personally, I think that after last year's three free trade bills and this year's Cantor-Obama JOBS act, we Democrats are finally making up for years of not being sensitive to the needs of Republicans. While they won't admit it yet, I think Republicans are beginning to see that they can trust us again. If we can just work with them to get the hyper-austerity provisions of Simpson-Bowles passed, I expect they'll finally see their way clear to working with us again.

Together, we can give more money to the Job Creators than either party could working alone.

Sincerely,

Third-Way Manny

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #8)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 11:14 PM

13. You've been channeling the President again

I'm impressed with your clarity of vision, but maybe you should cut down on your ibogain intake. Or increase it.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #8)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 11:29 PM

18. Grand Bargain here we come

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #8)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 08:08 AM

25. Whoa there, tiger.

 

That's a little too much change I can believe in. Easy does it, Third-Way Nanny.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #8)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 08:16 AM

26. That was good ... eom

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #8)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 08:39 AM

29. Thanks Manny for interpreting the nonsense...

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #8)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 09:03 AM

33. The Grand Bargain to make final the stolen SS funds, and the TPP here we come!

 

Obama Trade Deal To Put Corporations Above The Law

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #8)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 09:17 AM

35. lmao

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 11:03 PM

9. "Republicans of “good will”



No such thing.

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 11:08 PM

10. I love Axelrod's sense of humor.

Priceless.

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Response to DevonRex (Reply #10)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 11:12 PM

12. You need to get out more if you think he's funny

 

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Response to -Seriously-2012 (Reply #12)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 11:28 PM

17. Bye bye troll.

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Response to -Seriously-2012 (Reply #11)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 11:19 PM

14. He was just baiting the fucking idiot republicans thinking of the future

who he knew would win the house in 2010 due to the fact not enough white people came to the polls even though the cat calls went out...

Kind of like this scene..







Oh, what do you do for a living by the way? Are you Cindy's brother?

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Response to -Seriously-2012 (Reply #11)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 11:19 PM

15. Not bad, but the "?!?!?!?" is a dead giveaway

Your facts are off, the grammar needs some work, but the spelling is OK! I'm guessing you discovered spell check, good stuff!

Anyway, enjoy your brief stay.

BTW, did you know that unemployment was reduced by 40% in FDR's first term? That's what Liberal policies can do.

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 11:32 PM

19. This is genius, actually. I love that he used the word "liberate"

"Liberate" Republicans? That word liberate sure does sound like liberal. As in - when Obama wins, they'll happily fall in line, turned into liberals and work with the President. Think of the hidden meaning in the use of that specific word. It wasn't an accident.

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Response to Avalux (Reply #19)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 11:35 PM

20. I agree. There's humor there in several

ways. I love it.

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Response to DevonRex (Reply #20)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 11:44 PM

21. I'm glad someone agrees with me -

and you're right, the whole thing is funny as hell.

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Response to Avalux (Reply #19)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 08:24 AM

28. I expect that the economy will grow in 2013 because there is only so much fuckingup that they can do

Those GOPtards found ways to politicize work as bland as highway construction. That pissed off their supporters in the construction industry/lobby.

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Response to Kolesar (Reply #28)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 11:38 AM

36. Joke post? Keep 'hope' alive. -eom

 

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Response to Huey P. Long (Reply #36)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 12:17 PM

38. Wow. Put a lot of effort into that one...eom

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 11:55 PM

22. well that was the way things used to be...

until the republicans decided to go hard right and the democrats chased them over the center.

democracy needs two or more healthy parties to stop the tyranny of one party control.

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 08:00 AM

24. Hope springs eternal.

I think Axelrod is either fooling himself or trying to fool all of us.

-Laelth

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 08:40 AM

30. Strictly speaking, I suppose he's correct

but those Republicans are getting drummed out of the party en masse, so by November Axelrod will be wrong.

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 08:41 AM

31. From your mouth to God's ear, Axe...

but that sounds awfully rational to me...and one thing these zealots are NOT is rational...they will literally drive us all off the cliff before that happens...

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 08:55 AM

32. This message is targeted to the independents/moderates who fear political gridlock..

if the President is reelected. Clearly the party base does not want to hear this.

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