Wed Jun 27, 2012, 04:19 PM

malaise (105,878 posts)

Every single Democratic Party member must walk out of the House of Representatives

tomorrow - do not do the same bullshit that was done to Acorn to your own Attorney General.
Boycott this witch-hunt and fugg the NRA. Find some fuggin' balls.

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62 replies	Author	Time	Post
Every single Democratic Party member must walk out of the House of Representatives (Original post)	malaise	Jun 2012	OP
Amen...CALL CONGRESS RIGHT FUGGIN NOW	DearAbby	Jun 2012	#1
How about finding spines instead of balls?	MineralMan	Jun 2012	#2
Balls is fine as a discriptor, except for the word police which I not only refuse to be	sabrina 1	Jun 2012	#3
Wow ...	1StrongBlackMan	Jun 2012	#4
Wow! The subject of this OP is that Democrats need to walk out which they should have done when Issa	sabrina 1	Jun 2012	#5
We need to change the voter pool.	freshwest	Jun 2012	#7
balls vagina doesn't really matter what the analogy is-	Bluerthanblue	Jun 2012	#24
Lol, that's why I love Betty White! She knows how to make a point!	sabrina 1	Jun 2012	#27
Bullshit, I agree with her.	Waiting For Everyman	Jun 2012	#11
Thank you WFE!	sabrina 1	Jun 2012	#22
sexism is so ingrained even women participate	Skittles	Jun 2012	#34
Not this woman.	sabrina 1	Jun 2012	#48
worthy of its own threat, sabrina	Skittles	Jun 2012	#57
I'm fine with balls.	Scootaloo	Jun 2012	#12
I think the powder blew away a long time ago.	sabrina 1	Jun 2012	#14
Put 'em in a sack and swing!	Scootaloo	Jun 2012	#16
Lol!	sabrina 1	Jun 2012	#18
Well maybe they can find vaginas	malaise	Jun 2012	#17
That too.	sabrina 1	Jun 2012	#19
She didn't actually say that, I'm afraid.	Scootaloo	Jun 2012	#20
Huh?	malaise	Jun 2012	#45
I know, she didn't actually say that.	Scootaloo	Jun 2012	#50
I wish	EC	Jun 2012	#6
I'd pay to see that.	abelenkpe	Jun 2012	#8
kr	HiPointDem	Jun 2012	#9
And we need to initiate a national "Hold Boehner in Contempt" Day on the net.	EFerrari	Jun 2012	#10
Yeah, like they did in Wisconsin	NNN0LHI	Jun 2012	#13
k&r...	spanone	Jun 2012	#15
Four House Dems back measure to place Holder in contempt	Are_grits_groceries	Jun 2012	#21
These DINO's shouldn't get national party support /nt	jimlup	Jun 2012	#25
Why am I not surprised? Nick Rahall should be ashamed of himself. I think they all need to hear	sabrina 1	Jun 2012	#28
The FAKE Democrats. n/t	RKP5637	Jun 2012	#29
Collin Peterson, the alleged Democrat from Minnesota who never seems to find it within himself	Lydia Leftcoast	Jun 2012	#30
CNN is reporting that it will be much more then that....	Puddy	Jun 2012	#33
predicting up to 30 dems could vote aye	spanone	Jun 2012	#40
Be cool if all the other Democrats walked out and let those Conserva-Dems alone with	rhett o rick	Jun 2012	#43
And if you donate to the DNC you are donating to them. nm	rhett o rick	Jun 2012	#44
I would love to see this happen, but I doubt that all Democrats	rhett o rick	Jun 2012	#23
You were right. See post #21	sabrina 1	Jun 2012	#31
Do they need a quorum to vote?.	pwb	Jun 2012	#26
I don't know, but since they are in the majority and now we learn that	sabrina 1	Jun 2012	#36
Won't happen. In order to walk out, you would have to stand up.	russspeakeasy	Jun 2012	#32
Jessie Jackson, Jr. already got a head start.	AnotherMcIntosh	Jun 2012	#35
Like Betty White said, 'Balls are weak and fragile, grow a vagina, those things take a beating!'	panader0	Jun 2012	#37
Oh so that explains it.	truedelphi	Jun 2012	#54
172 House Democrats voted to defund ACORN.	moondust	Jun 2012	#38
Yes, and that was Issa's bill also.	sabrina 1	Jun 2012	#49
I am so so so with you on this	Lifelong Protester	Jun 2012	#39
Perhaps if they DID that, they might ALSO stop to THINK	clang1	Jun 2012	#41
It is CORRUPTION	clang1	Jun 2012	#42
Add my strong agreement. WALK OUT IN PROTEST!	chknltl	Jun 2012	#46
Kicked and recommended.	Uncle Joe	Jun 2012	#47
if everyone reading this thread	veganlush	Jun 2012	#51
what are the	dreampunk	Jun 2012	#52
IN ADDITION TO WALKING OUT	clang1	Jun 2012	#53
You aren't even a little troubled by F&F	Recursion	Jun 2012	#55
Why wasn't Issa troubled by it, until now?	sabrina 1	Jun 2012	#56
Wow, Sabrina, have you ever considered a career in politics?	Art_from_Ark	Jun 2012	#58
Lol, no, I can't imagine what it would be like to actually be in politics.	sabrina 1	Jun 2012	#59
Excellent post	malaise	Jun 2012	#60
I think he got this far by helping to oust Grey Davis	Art_from_Ark	Jun 2012	#61
Yes, and he is one of the richest members of Congress. Maybe even THE wealthiest.	sabrina 1	Jun 2012	#62

Response to malaise (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 04:21 PM

DearAbby (12,180 posts)

1. Amen...CALL CONGRESS RIGHT FUGGIN NOW

that is a great idea..

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 04:21 PM

MineralMan (53,765 posts)

2. How about finding spines instead of balls?

Lots of women in the House, you know. Testosterone doesn't indicate strength of will, really.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #2)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 04:25 PM

sabrina 1 (34,021 posts)

3. Balls is fine as a discriptor, except for the word police which I not only refuse to be

bullied by, but believe are harmful to women.

So yes, Congress needs balls, spine, courage, I don't care what anyone calls it, it's been sorely lacking among Democrats over the past decade.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #3)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 04:29 PM

1StrongBlackMan (5,350 posts)

4. Wow ...

What a juxaposition ... a female (I assume) making a sexist comment; a male catches the comment; and a female defends the sexist comment!

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #4)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 04:35 PM

sabrina 1 (34,021 posts)

5. Wow! The subject of this OP is that Democrats need to walk out which they should have done when Issa

introduced his bill to illegally defund ACORN. They need to get some balls, chutzpa, courage, spine, whatever describes their lack of guts is okay by me. I save my outrage for actual outrageous things, such as illegal wars, torture, and political corruption like this.

As for the rest of your comment you are entitled to your opinion. I disagree with it. I'm with the Great Bard when it comes to words:

What's in a name, a rose by any other name would smell as sweet

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #5)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 04:38 PM

freshwest (31,239 posts)

7. We need to change the voter pool.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #5)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 05:31 PM

Bluerthanblue (13,668 posts)

24. balls vagina doesn't really matter what the analogy is-

I agree with you Sabrina-

“Why do people say "grow some balls"? Balls are weak and sensitive. If you wanna be tough, grow a vagina. Those things can take a pounding.”
― Betty White

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Response to Bluerthanblue (Reply #24)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 05:52 PM

sabrina 1 (34,021 posts)

27. Lol, that's why I love Betty White! She knows how to make a point!

But yes, whatever it takes to get Dems to start standing up against these right wing bullies. It's been driving me crazy for years now to see them cave to the bullying over and over again.

Their excuse for not arresting Rove, eg, was because they did not want to seem partisan and because they feared the Repubs would strike back. How many times did we tell them that the Repubs need NO excuse and would never allow Dems' tolerance of their actual crimes to stop them.

I sure hope they've learned something over the past three years.

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #4)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 04:48 PM

Waiting For Everyman (6,371 posts)

11. Bullshit, I agree with her.

I'm a woman too, and I'm tired of being bullied by the Church Lady(s) on here too. Enough!

Thank you! sabrina 1.

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Response to Waiting For Everyman (Reply #11)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 05:18 PM

sabrina 1 (34,021 posts)

22. Thank you WFE!

You would think we women were made of glass or something!

And once again, we get a distraction from the main topic, which is 'what will Dems do' when Issa once again, tries to bully them into holding Holding in contempt, when we all know how much support they got from Republicans when Karl Rove thumbed his nose at Congress!

Not a single Dem should be found in the Chamber when this little political game begins. Do what the Wisconsin Dems had the courage to do, leave and don't come back until they get some sense.

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #4)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 06:21 PM

Skittles (86,204 posts)

34. sexism is so ingrained even women participate

look how many think it is A-OK to be "given" from one man to another (father to husband) in marriage - so ingrained women act like it is normal

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Response to Skittles (Reply #34)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 09:14 PM

sabrina 1 (34,021 posts)

48. Not this woman.

But the weak attempts to distract from real issues by focusing on words, has harmed women. Reams of text devoted to a word, yet, little or no interest in the real problems facing women, makes me wonder if that is not the goal. Who gives a shit what some moron calls me, it bounces off me like a pea off Fort Knox.

Wake me up when the word police finally get around to dealing with the real problems women are facing in this world, not the least of which are our illegal wars, rape of soldiers, rape of Muslim women in the custody of the US, the killing innocent women and children by our WMDS. The destruction of women's rights in the countries where we set up our puppet government. I doubt if women around the world have time to even worry about a word as they gather the pieces of their babies blown to bits by our bombs.

Sorry if some of us women can't waste our time posting thousands of whining comments about a single word, while OPs that actually deal with real world abuse and destruction of women around the globe, sink with never a single rec or comment from the 'outraged'.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #48)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 12:43 AM

Skittles (86,204 posts)

57. worthy of its own threat, sabrina

yes INDEED

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #2)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 04:50 PM

Scootaloo (5,830 posts)

12. I'm fine with balls.

God knows, our powder should be dry enough to fire a few of 'em off.

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Response to Scootaloo (Reply #12)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 05:00 PM

sabrina 1 (34,021 posts)

14. I think the powder blew away a long time ago.

If you don't use it, you lose it.

I would be fine with replacing it with balls like those, even if only to scare them with. So long as it isn't replaced with 'we're holding our fire' and we never get around to using them either.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #14)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 05:06 PM

Scootaloo (5,830 posts)

16. Put 'em in a sack and swing!

...Wait...

Okay, yeah, that one sounded a little strange. Clobbering teabaggers with a big sack of balls.

I think I'm just going to like... sit this one out.

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Response to Scootaloo (Reply #16)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 05:12 PM

sabrina 1 (34,021 posts)

18. Lol!

I'd say keep going, but it might be treading on dangerous territory, which is too bad, because I like the way your mind was working here! How I regret the humorless!

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #2)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 05:09 PM

malaise (105,878 posts)

17. Well maybe they can find vaginas

Ask Betty White why .

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Response to malaise (Reply #17)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 05:13 PM

sabrina 1 (34,021 posts)

19. That too.

And I love Betty White!

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Response to malaise (Reply #17)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 05:14 PM

Scootaloo (5,830 posts)

20. She didn't actually say that, I'm afraid.

Which is kind of surprising, given she's as dirty as Bob Sagat and Robin Williams combined.

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Response to Scootaloo (Reply #20)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 07:28 PM

malaise (105,878 posts)

45. Huh?

“Why do people say "grow some balls"? Balls are weak and sensitive. If you wanna be tough, grow a vagina. Those things can take a pounding.”

― Betty White

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Response to malaise (Reply #45)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 12:56 AM

Scootaloo (5,830 posts)

50. I know, she didn't actually say that.

My Dear Damien, Thank you so much for trying to get rid of this silly prank on my behalf. I can’t say that I am angry at my many wonderful fans for distributing the story, but I am disturbed, because of its content, that it has become such a sensation. I enjoy a blue joke as much as the next person, but this one goes a bit beyond where I would step professionally. Thank you. You’re a sweetie. Hugs and Kisses, Betty. ( 3:50 PDT)

http://thedamienzone.com/2011/10/05/betty-white-facebook-hoax-about-balls-and-vaginas/

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 04:37 PM

EC (11,391 posts)

6. I wish

but it looks like 25 - 35 decided to cover their asses instead. NRA has got to go or be neutered.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 04:42 PM

abelenkpe (7,105 posts)

8. I'd pay to see that.

truly.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 04:43 PM

HiPointDem (16,776 posts)

9. kr

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 04:43 PM

EFerrari (163,986 posts)

10. And we need to initiate a national "Hold Boehner in Contempt" Day on the net.

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He deserves at least one.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 04:57 PM

NNN0LHI (67,185 posts)

13. Yeah, like they did in Wisconsin

Oh, wait a minute ...

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 05:01 PM

spanone (72,036 posts)

15. k&r...

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 05:18 PM

Are_grits_groceries (12,548 posts)

21. Four House Dems back measure to place Holder in contempt

<snip>
Democratic Reps. John Barrow (Ga.), Collin Peterson (Minn.) and Nick Rahall (W.Va.) will all vote in favor of contempt in addition to Rep. Jim Matheson (Utah) when the measure comes to the House floor on Thursday.
<snip>
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/235053-second-house-dem-backs-placing-holder-in-contempt-

Not gonna happen because of these DINOs.

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Response to Are_grits_groceries (Reply #21)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 05:46 PM

jimlup (4,052 posts)

25. These DINO's shouldn't get national party support /nt

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Response to Are_grits_groceries (Reply #21)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 05:54 PM

sabrina 1 (34,021 posts)

28. Why am I not surprised? Nick Rahall should be ashamed of himself. I think they all need to hear

the people. THIS is why we lose. Because there are always Dems who will cross over and vote with Republicans no matter how bad the legislation is.

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Response to Are_grits_groceries (Reply #21)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 05:54 PM

RKP5637 (25,580 posts)

29. The FAKE Democrats. n/t

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Response to Are_grits_groceries (Reply #21)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 05:55 PM

Lydia Leftcoast (46,793 posts)

30. Collin Peterson, the alleged Democrat from Minnesota who never seems to find it within himself

to vote with the Democrats.

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Response to Are_grits_groceries (Reply #21)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 06:07 PM

Puddy (18 posts)

33. CNN is reporting that it will be much more then that....

The evil NRA is behind this pressure put on Dems in conservative districts.

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Response to Are_grits_groceries (Reply #21)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 06:52 PM

spanone (72,036 posts)

40. predicting up to 30 dems could vote aye

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Response to Are_grits_groceries (Reply #21)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 07:24 PM

rhett o rick (26,604 posts)

43. Be cool if all the other Democrats walked out and let those Conserva-Dems alone with

their buddies.

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Response to Are_grits_groceries (Reply #21)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 07:25 PM

rhett o rick (26,604 posts)

44. And if you donate to the DNC you are donating to them. nm

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 05:19 PM

rhett o rick (26,604 posts)

23. I would love to see this happen, but I doubt that all Democrats

will cooperate.

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #23)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 05:55 PM

sabrina 1 (34,021 posts)

31. You were right. See post #21

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There are always Dems willing to help out the Republicans. What a great statement it would have been if they all had been willing to just walk out.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 05:51 PM

pwb (1,410 posts)

26. Do they need a quorum to vote?.

That would be good to see, only repukes voting.

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Response to pwb (Reply #26)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 06:34 PM

sabrina 1 (34,021 posts)

36. I don't know, but since they are in the majority and now we learn that

at least four Dems are going to vote with the Republicans, and we know they will vote in lockstep, I think they would make it.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 06:05 PM

russspeakeasy (5,710 posts)

32. Won't happen. In order to walk out, you would have to stand up.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 06:33 PM

AnotherMcIntosh (7,451 posts)

35. Jessie Jackson, Jr. already got a head start.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 06:35 PM

panader0 (9,540 posts)

37. Like Betty White said, 'Balls are weak and fragile, grow a vagina, those things take a beating!'

Something like that. But I agree. It would make a huge statement, and would overshadow whatever the pukes do tomorrow.

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Response to panader0 (Reply #37)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 04:30 AM

truedelphi (25,918 posts)

54. Oh so that explains it.

Now that I have heard this quote, I understand why the RW doesn't want us to use the word "vagina."

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 06:48 PM

moondust (8,268 posts)

38. 172 House Democrats voted to defund ACORN.

Haven't heard them express any regrets.

Don't hold your breath.

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Response to moondust (Reply #38)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 09:40 PM

sabrina 1 (34,021 posts)

49. Yes, and that was Issa's bill also.

And not once did any of them offer an apology when every investigation proved they had done nothing wrong. So, like you, I don't have much hope in a unified opposition walk-out to protest Issa's political games.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 06:49 PM

Lifelong Protester (4,775 posts)

39. I am so so so with you on this

I just listened to the author of the article that is or has appeared in Fortune magazine about this whole affair (the supposed 'gun-walking') and according to her, there WAS NO 'gun walking', it is just an oft repeated lie.

This author (I'm so sorry, I did not catch her name) was just on Reverand Sharpton's Politics Nation.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 07:11 PM

clang1 (884 posts)

41. Perhaps if they DID that, they might ALSO stop to THINK

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about what ALL of this is REALLY ABOUT.

PEOPLE NEED TO WAKE UP.

Meanwhile, The progression continues....

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 07:15 PM

clang1 (884 posts)

42. It is CORRUPTION

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and corruption being used to affect an election and it is MORE than just simple corruption. THE FUCKING CORRUPTION IS EVERYWHERE and people are LOST in it.

REASON THAT OUT....IT IS NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE. UNTIL YOU SEE THE FOREST FOR THE TREES. UNTIL THEN, YOU ARE GRABBING AT SLITHERING SNAKES.

AND I SEE SNAKES EVERYWHERE, AND SO DOES EVERYONE ELSE.

THE FUCKING CORRUPTION=TREASON
One American has died directly because of this, how many Mexicans? How many are not DEAD YET?

POLITICAL CORRUPTION...

Whatever they think about, they better start looking at the LARGER picture here.

Meanwhile....The progresssion continues....

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 08:09 PM

chknltl (8,736 posts)

46. Add my strong agreement. WALK OUT IN PROTEST!

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 08:12 PM

Uncle Joe (24,997 posts)

47. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, malaise.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 01:11 AM

veganlush (1,902 posts)

51. if everyone reading this thread

Would take ten minutes and make few phone calls, sadly most likely won't I believe

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 01:16 AM

dreampunk (82 posts)

52. what are the

chances? VAGINA!

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 02:16 AM

clang1 (884 posts)

53. IN ADDITION TO WALKING OUT

THEY ALSO NEED TO ASK ISAA WHY IS HE INVOLVING THE NRA IN GUN VIOLENCE THAT IS DESTABILIZING MEXICO?

THAT IS A QUESTION THAT NEEDS TO BE ASKED.

Meanwhile....The Progression continues.....

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 11:27 AM

Recursion (25,477 posts)

55. You aren't even a little troubled by F&F

or his handling of the aftermath?

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Response to Recursion (Reply #55)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 02:36 PM

sabrina 1 (34,021 posts)

56. Why wasn't Issa troubled by it, until now?

But yes, people are troubled by a lot of things. I am troubled by this DOJ on many issues. Such as their persecution of whistle-blowers, their persecution of legal pot growers, their refusal to look into the corrupt political conviction of Don Siegelman eg.

But this is not being done for the good of the people, the motive matters. This is being done for political reasons and the proof of that, in case anyone had any doubts, is that Issa was briefed on F&F in 2010 I believe, and didn't seem to find anything to worry about. Either it was the serious issue he's claiming now back then, or it wasn't then and therefore isn't now.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #56)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 01:50 AM

Art_from_Ark (16,883 posts)

58. Wow, Sabrina, have you ever considered a career in politics?

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Response to Art_from_Ark (Reply #58)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 11:39 AM

sabrina 1 (34,021 posts)

59. Lol, no, I can't imagine what it would be like to actually be in politics.

But maybe we should use the internet to set up advisory committees for those who are, because you have to wonder sometimes where the are getting their advice, which I'm sure they pay a fortune for.

Issa eg, should have been an easy target for Democrats way back when he went after ACORN and even before that, when he orchestrated the recall of the Democratic Governor in CA. He never should have been allowed to get this far. But rather than fight him, Dems caved. Phonies like him have to be stopped as soon as they rear their corrupt heads, or they end up gaining power. So, all I can say is if people on the internet can dig up info on this guy which should make him ineligible to even be in Congress, I don't know how he got this far.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #59)

Fri Jun 29, 2012, 11:41 AM

malaise (105,878 posts)