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MSNBC Martin Bashir Show "Bombshell" from Fortune mag (Original Post) GreatCaesarsGhost Jun 2012 OP
I think the bigger story is that the person that authorized the gun walking is also the person who notadmblnd Jun 2012 #1
...and timing is everything. spanone Jun 2012 #2
here is the article SemperEadem Jun 2012 #22
It has been all over the internets Inuca Jun 2012 #7
:) abelenkpe Jun 2012 #15
Watching malaise Jun 2012 #3
amen, they should absolutely do that. spanone Jun 2012 #4
But it won't happen. Control-Z Jun 2012 #12
I disagree Shankapotomus Jun 2012 #19
+1,000 freshwest Jun 2012 #26
We think about it....we all knew this DearAbby Jun 2012 #5
I dont disagree with what you said, just wanted to point out rhett o rick Jun 2012 #13
It's all a game to these MF'ers... kentuck Jun 2012 #6
Damn I missed the opening part of the show - off to Google aint_no_life_nowhere Jun 2012 #8
Yeessss! freshwest Jun 2012 #27
CNN link GreatCaesarsGhost Jun 2012 #9
Birtherism....2.0 DearAbby Jun 2012 #10
Here is the link to the must read article from Fortune.... jillan Jun 2012 #11
Tweety's on it "Fast Furious and Fiction" GreatCaesarsGhost Jun 2012 #14
GOOD... (Also tweeted. faced etc) . . . . n/t annabanana Jun 2012 #16
Wasn't F&F conceived and launched under GWBush regime? 99th_Monkey Jun 2012 #17
I now understand why the NRA was so excited about this. JDPriestly Jun 2012 #18
Yeah, yeah, who knew guns were not a force for good in the universe? bemildred Jun 2012 #20
Astounding news! JDPriestly Jun 2012 #21
2000 guns a day walk to Mexico. Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2012 #24
I'm missing something. Ilsa Jun 2012 #23
Question malaise Jun 2012 #25
Since they legalized "propaganda" nothing any POL................ kooljerk666 Jun 2012 #28
I saw this on Rachel Maddow last night and my jaw dropped: hedgehog Jun 2012 #29
Really bad 24 hrs for the Repukes Doctor_J Jun 2012 #30

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
1. I think the bigger story is that the person that authorized the gun walking is also the person who
Wed Jun 27, 2012, 04:13 PM
Jun 2012

blew the whistle.

on edit: I find it hard to believe that no one is interested in this story.

Inuca

(8,945 posts)
7. It has been all over the internets
Wed Jun 27, 2012, 04:20 PM
Jun 2012

for a while, lefty (kos) and otherwise. By "for a while" I mean today. My first glimpse of it was, I think, in a tweet, that refered to that leftist rag, Fortune magazine .

DearAbby

(12,461 posts)
5. We think about it....we all knew this
Wed Jun 27, 2012, 04:18 PM
Jun 2012

Oh wait...


:::GASP::: Clutching pearls::::

You mean Issa is a NRA HACK, manufacturing a story, creating a Circus Witch hunt against Holder, with no proof?

Been arguing this for an hour now with a 'bagger...who claims the bullets were so mangled, they threw up their hands saying..."WELL SHIT BOYS, Don't bother testing that fucker". Ever hear of a Federal investigation that wouldn't test a popcorn fart in a windstorm, especially after an Agent was killed?

That would have to be some mangled up bullet to not see the firing pin marks at the end of it...Never in my life seen a bullet that mangled it couldn't be tested for that....have you?

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
13. I dont disagree with what you said, just wanted to point out
Wed Jun 27, 2012, 04:55 PM
Jun 2012

bullets wont have firing pin marks. The firing pin hits the shell casing not the bullet.

kentuck

(111,079 posts)
6. It's all a game to these MF'ers...
Wed Jun 27, 2012, 04:20 PM
Jun 2012

It is fair game and expected for them to impeach the President if possible, or at least, impede everything he attempts. They believe that is their duty as the opposition Party.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
17. Wasn't F&F conceived and launched under GWBush regime?
Wed Jun 27, 2012, 05:47 PM
Jun 2012

That in itself makes this whole "investigation" witch-hunt
ludicrous.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
18. I now understand why the NRA was so excited about this.
Wed Jun 27, 2012, 06:06 PM
Jun 2012

Good heavens! Who would ever have thought?

Fast and Furious, regardless of its initial purpose, proved pretty much once and for all that when you unleash large quantities of guns into a society in upheaval (like Mexico), you get dead bodies, including maybe a completely innocent border patrol guard who didn't deserve to be killed.

That's just so shocking.

And, another thing it proves is that guns get out of control when gun laws are too lax. Who'd'a thunk that, pappy?

One thing is certain. These guns were of pretty high quality. They performed their function just as they were created to do -- killed, how often we do not know.

Face it, gunlovers. The purpose of a gun is to kill. Be it an animal or a human or just the symbol for an animal or a human. Guns are intended for killing. They don't really have any other purpose. If a gun kills someone, it is functioning very well.

You can't return your gun and get your money back because it killed someone. You can do that with a toaster that catches on fire and kills someone because the toaster that does that is defective. But if your gun gets stolen and sold to Mexico and kills someone, you can't get your money back.

I'm not trying to suggest you should have to give up your gun collection. I'm just saying that the fact that guns kill is shocking only to those who are in denial about what guns are for.

Maybe we do need gun laws for extreme cases after all. Is it too pro-big-government to suggest that?

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
20. Yeah, yeah, who knew guns were not a force for good in the universe?
Wed Jun 27, 2012, 06:16 PM
Jun 2012

"Weapons can harm innocent people?"

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,325 posts)
24. 2000 guns a day walk to Mexico.
Wed Jun 27, 2012, 07:51 PM
Jun 2012

All due to intentionally toothless gun laws made that way by right-wing pigs and gun lovers.

But blame the black guy when ONE person is killed on his watch.

What really pisses me off is this is just the Chicago scenario on steroids. Gun shops all along the borders selling fire arms to straw buyers who funnel guns to street gangs. Try to regulate it and the pigs scream bloody murder.... then our resident gun enthusiasts in the gungeon laugh and snicker about gun violence in supposedly "gun free" Chicago.

There was a case several years ago of a Chicago cop killed by a straw purchased gun from the suburbs. During the investigation, they found a staggering amount of gun crimes committed with guns from just a handful of shops.

Use the laws on the books, they say. Don't take away my right to buy hundreds of guns.

Well here it is, people.

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
23. I'm missing something.
Wed Jun 27, 2012, 07:35 PM
Jun 2012

The article says there were walked guns at Terry's murder scene, but there is no statement about the gun used to kill him. Is the assumption that the official line is non-specific about his cause of death a conclusion that he wasn't killed by a "walked" gun?

 

kooljerk666

(776 posts)
28. Since they legalized "propaganda" nothing any POL................
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 10:58 AM
Jun 2012

or General or anyone working for NSA or pentagon or anything...............

THEY ARE ALL LIARS....

Example CBS article http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57460126/ap-al-qaeda-trains-norwegian-to-attack-west/

Some Danish guy learned how to kill in Somalia, so what?

1 man can very rarely deliver the kind of devastation that I even care about.

We have cops killing people right, left & center, so what, no one gives a crap.

One man gets trained & we need a police state forever? F that.

This article is nothing but BS, trying to scare people into accepting a complete pig state & not complain.

When "terrorists" finally figure out who is responsible for American terror all over the world the 1%er's will be crapping their pants.

It does not matter how many regular people are killed, the elite don't care. They only want to profit off everything but their own demise.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
30. Really bad 24 hrs for the Repukes
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 03:39 PM
Jun 2012

millions get to keep their health care insurance, and now their fundraising propaganda has been debunked

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