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Fast and Furious is complete bullshit
Agent wasn't killed with weapon from "gun walking".
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)blew the whistle.
on edit: I find it hard to believe that no one is interested in this story.
spanone
(135,823 posts)SemperEadem
(8,053 posts)Inuca
(8,945 posts)for a while, lefty (kos) and otherwise. By "for a while" I mean today. My first glimpse of it was, I think, in a tweet, that refered to that leftist rag, Fortune magazine .
I like your style!
malaise
(268,930 posts)I agree with Rangel - every single Democrat must walk out tomorrow
spanone
(135,823 posts)Control-Z
(15,682 posts)I'm so pissed off.
Shankapotomus
(4,840 posts)Every Republican should be thrown out. The Democrats should stay.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)DearAbby
(12,461 posts)Oh wait...
:::GASP::: Clutching pearls::::
You mean Issa is a NRA HACK, manufacturing a story, creating a Circus Witch hunt against Holder, with no proof?
Been arguing this for an hour now with a 'bagger...who claims the bullets were so mangled, they threw up their hands saying..."WELL SHIT BOYS, Don't bother testing that fucker". Ever hear of a Federal investigation that wouldn't test a popcorn fart in a windstorm, especially after an Agent was killed?
That would have to be some mangled up bullet to not see the firing pin marks at the end of it...Never in my life seen a bullet that mangled it couldn't be tested for that....have you?
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)bullets wont have firing pin marks. The firing pin hits the shell casing not the bullet.
kentuck
(111,079 posts)It is fair game and expected for them to impeach the President if possible, or at least, impede everything he attempts. They believe that is their duty as the opposition Party.
aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)Editing to add this link to the bombshell story:
http://mediamatters.org/blog/201206270010
freshwest
(53,661 posts)GreatCaesarsGhost
(8,584 posts)DearAbby
(12,461 posts)jillan
(39,451 posts)I haven't seen Martin's show yet, it's on my dvr.
I am SO glad that Martin exposed this!
GreatCaesarsGhost
(8,584 posts)annabanana
(52,791 posts)99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)That in itself makes this whole "investigation" witch-hunt
ludicrous.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Good heavens! Who would ever have thought?
Fast and Furious, regardless of its initial purpose, proved pretty much once and for all that when you unleash large quantities of guns into a society in upheaval (like Mexico), you get dead bodies, including maybe a completely innocent border patrol guard who didn't deserve to be killed.
That's just so shocking.
And, another thing it proves is that guns get out of control when gun laws are too lax. Who'd'a thunk that, pappy?
One thing is certain. These guns were of pretty high quality. They performed their function just as they were created to do -- killed, how often we do not know.
Face it, gunlovers. The purpose of a gun is to kill. Be it an animal or a human or just the symbol for an animal or a human. Guns are intended for killing. They don't really have any other purpose. If a gun kills someone, it is functioning very well.
You can't return your gun and get your money back because it killed someone. You can do that with a toaster that catches on fire and kills someone because the toaster that does that is defective. But if your gun gets stolen and sold to Mexico and kills someone, you can't get your money back.
I'm not trying to suggest you should have to give up your gun collection. I'm just saying that the fact that guns kill is shocking only to those who are in denial about what guns are for.
Maybe we do need gun laws for extreme cases after all. Is it too pro-big-government to suggest that?
bemildred
(90,061 posts)"Weapons can harm innocent people?"
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Hassin Bin Sober
(26,325 posts)All due to intentionally toothless gun laws made that way by right-wing pigs and gun lovers.
But blame the black guy when ONE person is killed on his watch.
What really pisses me off is this is just the Chicago scenario on steroids. Gun shops all along the borders selling fire arms to straw buyers who funnel guns to street gangs. Try to regulate it and the pigs scream bloody murder.... then our resident gun enthusiasts in the gungeon laugh and snicker about gun violence in supposedly "gun free" Chicago.
There was a case several years ago of a Chicago cop killed by a straw purchased gun from the suburbs. During the investigation, they found a staggering amount of gun crimes committed with guns from just a handful of shops.
Use the laws on the books, they say. Don't take away my right to buy hundreds of guns.
Well here it is, people.
Ilsa
(61,694 posts)The article says there were walked guns at Terry's murder scene, but there is no statement about the gun used to kill him. Is the assumption that the official line is non-specific about his cause of death a conclusion that he wasn't killed by a "walked" gun?
malaise
(268,930 posts)Who in the NRA knew about all those guns going to Mexico?
Who doesn't want that to be exposed.
kooljerk666
(776 posts)or General or anyone working for NSA or pentagon or anything...............
THEY ARE ALL LIARS....
Example CBS article http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57460126/ap-al-qaeda-trains-norwegian-to-attack-west/
Some Danish guy learned how to kill in Somalia, so what?
1 man can very rarely deliver the kind of devastation that I even care about.
We have cops killing people right, left & center, so what, no one gives a crap.
One man gets trained & we need a police state forever? F that.
This article is nothing but BS, trying to scare people into accepting a complete pig state & not complain.
When "terrorists" finally figure out who is responsible for American terror all over the world the 1%er's will be crapping their pants.
It does not matter how many regular people are killed, the elite don't care. They only want to profit off everything but their own demise.
hedgehog
(36,286 posts)how could no one figure this out before this!
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)millions get to keep their health care insurance, and now their fundraising propaganda has been debunked