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Wed Jun 27, 2012, 02:56 PM

I Don't Care if Karl Rove is Gay

I care about the outing of Valerie Plame, which put the lives of U.S. agents and their contacts abroad in jeopardy.

I care about the exit polls that did not match the vote tallies in 2004 Ohio.

I care about the death of J. H. Hatfield.

I care about Don Siegelman.

I care about the Nixon era CREEP-y dirty tricks that Rove played back ion the early 1970s.

I care that he used Katrina to ethnically re-engineer Louisiana and that he used the Katrina relief fund as a political slush fund.

I care that he participated in the Big Lies that lead us to war in Iraq.

I care that he fired hard working federal attorneys and replaced them with political hacks.

But, I don't care whom he sleeps with. The GOP slimes with sex. I am a Democrat.

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Reply I Don't Care if Karl Rove is Gay (Original post)
McCamy Taylor Jun 2012 OP
seabeyond Jun 2012 #1
xchrom Jun 2012 #5
seabeyond Jun 2012 #26
davidwparker Jun 2012 #37
xchrom Jun 2012 #38
MADem Jun 2012 #40
sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #41
LineReply ?
russspeakeasy Jun 2012 #2
Blue Owl Jun 2012 #3
aquart Jun 2012 #4
Lint Head Jun 2012 #6
villager Jun 2012 #7
aint_no_life_nowhere Jun 2012 #8
cwydro Jun 2012 #44
SpartanDem Jun 2012 #9
shcrane71 Jun 2012 #10
blm Jun 2012 #12
GCP Jun 2012 #32
blm Jun 2012 #11
rateyes Jun 2012 #15
blm Jun 2012 #42
EFerrari Jun 2012 #13
HillWilliam Jun 2012 #20
Mnemosyne Jun 2012 #43
rhett o rick Jun 2012 #14
calimary Jun 2012 #16
EFerrari Jun 2012 #22
pnwmom Jun 2012 #17
Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2012 #18
WI_DEM Jun 2012 #19
Comrade_McKenzie Jun 2012 #21
Bettie Jun 2012 #23
HopeHoops Jun 2012 #24
Bake Jun 2012 #25
Amerigo Vespucci Jun 2012 #27
CBGLuthier Jun 2012 #28
wiggs Jun 2012 #29
devilgrrl Jun 2012 #30
Paladin Jun 2012 #31
azurnoir Jun 2012 #33
ejbr Jun 2012 #34
Swede Atlanta Jun 2012 #36
Rex Jun 2012 #35
Quantess Jun 2012 #39
Rowdyboy Jun 2012 #45

Response to McCamy Taylor (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 02:58 PM

1. are we having a discussion about it or the news? i dont care either. nt

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #1)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 03:03 PM

5. there's a new dust up that has rove in a bi-sexual fling.

to me it's left wing homophobia -- bad man = gay with no real substantiation.

not at all unlike the old {m}ann coulter stupidity that was ever so popular on du.

we never can seem to kill this one though.

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Response to xchrom (Reply #5)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 04:35 PM

26. thank you for the explanation. hadnt seen. and i agree with you, totally. nt

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Response to xchrom (Reply #5)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 06:03 PM

37. I don't see the bad man = gay connection. Just GOP hypocrisy and sexual orientation used

as a tool for political reasons by someone.

Jeff "love you long time" was seeing someone in the * White House. If it wasn't *, then ....

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Response to davidwparker (Reply #37)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 06:10 PM

38. Right. And we're saying people like YOU are using

Sexual orientation as a weapon.

My god the original uncovers DUers don't even know what bi-sexual is.

We're capable of the same homophobia -& gladly - when we can fling it at the right.

That it's a Repuke - let's people get a bigoted jolly.

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Response to xchrom (Reply #5)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 06:34 PM

40. Well, if it's true it would point out his hypocrisy. Then again, Karl Rove=Hypocrite is not

exactly Big Fat Breaking News. More like Business As Usual.

I guess this is the imbroglio in question? CAVEAT: I cannot endorse or refute this blog; it has an amusing name but I do not "know" it at all:

http://legalschnauzer.blogspot.com/2012/06/karl-roves-bisexual-affair-might-have.html

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Response to xchrom (Reply #5)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 06:39 PM

41. No one on the Left that I know of, cares or ever did, who he sleeps with.

It's the Right that will care which is why many of them do not have the courage to exercise their right to sleep with whoever they want.

Karl Rove is a coward. And a liar, a cheat, a criminal and he should be in jail.

It is the cowardly part that would cause him to try to hide something that is perfectly normal because he knows he represents the most bigoted segments of this society. He's good at calling Democrats cowards.

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Response to McCamy Taylor (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 03:00 PM

2. ?

You make valid points. I was confused by the headline.

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Response to McCamy Taylor (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 03:01 PM

3. Word

K&R

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Response to McCamy Taylor (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 03:01 PM

4. But you couldn't get him out with any of that, could you?

Or get Siegelman out, either.

I'll take whatever banana peel he slips on.

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Response to McCamy Taylor (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 03:04 PM

6. Rove is gay?

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Response to McCamy Taylor (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 03:11 PM

7. Except that Rove caring, and worrying that the GOP will hate him too, is part of why all those

...policies came into being.

Since GOP politics is simply self-hatred projected outward -- it's all projection, really -- it's worth knowing what really makes them tick.

Ultimately, yes, who cares?

Except, right now, the GOP cares, and Rove cares, and much of his discontent, rained down on the rest of us (because he serves the powerful) stems from his internal conundrums.

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Response to McCamy Taylor (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 03:12 PM

8. People like you with strong democratic principles won't care

but maybe the looney tunes fundamentalists do care. Karl Rove still has boundless energy left to do more evil. I hope this development causes right wingers to drop him like a hot potato and remove him from the picture. If people turned on Rove because they found out he was a serial killer and cannibal or because he has sex with chickens, what's important to me is that the evil turd cease to have any power or say in politics.

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Response to aint_no_life_nowhere (Reply #8)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 01:34 AM

44. Because yeah...being gay is like being a serial killer

or a cannibal...jesus, think before you post.

Aaargghh.

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Response to McCamy Taylor (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 03:12 PM

9. I do

Rove was one the people in 04 pushing anti gay ballot initiatives in order to drive conservative turnout that makes him a giant fucking hypocrite.

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Response to McCamy Taylor (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 03:13 PM

10. If Rove is gay, then why am I or my family subjected to GOPer homophobic campaign ads

This was especially bad over Christmas. And why, oh why, have gays been so badly scapegoated for years by the RW while it's star strategist is gay? What a prick. What a hypocrite. Yeah, I care to know that the Rove is gay.

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Response to shcrane71 (Reply #10)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 03:18 PM

12. Rove, Mehlman, McHenry, Graham....the GOP closet has always been pretty damn full.

Tip of iceberg.

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Response to shcrane71 (Reply #10)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 05:12 PM

32. Yes n/t

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Response to McCamy Taylor (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 03:16 PM

11. I've known about Rove for years. More hedonist than bi-sexual.

Now, Patrick McHenry (Rove's longtime 'little buddy') and Lindsey Graham are gay.

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Response to blm (Reply #11)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 03:30 PM

15. how?

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Response to rateyes (Reply #15)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 08:14 PM

42. used to live in LA....knew some young ladies who made an excellent living visiting Houston

and attending certain types of sexually-based events. You can hear quite a bit when you pick up a friend from the airport. Additionally, Bush did NOT give up drinking completely at age 40 as the myth goes. I've posted about this a few times here in the past.

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Response to McCamy Taylor (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 03:20 PM

13. I don't care if he is gay. I care if he is a fucking hypocrite

who uses his power and influence to deny others the rights he and his family expect to enjoy.

Karl’s Rove Secret: Bush’s "Architect" Launched Anti-Gay Marriage Campaign After Burying Gay Father
http://www.democracynow.org/2006/11/2/karls_rove_secret_bushs_architect_launched


Karl Rove, who was key to making gay marriage a wedge issue in the 2004 election, accuses Obama of doing the same.
Read more: http://www.towleroad.com/2012/05/rove.html#ixzz1z1RsFTPd

Bush poised to ban gay marriage, says adviser
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/11/08/1099781320016.html?from=storylhs

Karl Rove, President Bush's senior adviser, was the Salvation Army's first White House contact in its effort to win approval of a regulation allowing religious charities to practice anti-gay workplace bias, administration officials said yesterday.
http://greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=006901


WOLF BLITZER, CNN ANCHOR: Should gays be allowed to serve openly in the military? ROVE: I must admit that I'm a proponent of don't ask, don't tell. I want to listen to military leaders and find out what they think the consequences will be for our military but I'm unmoved as of today.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2010/03/10/interview_with_karl_rove_104735.html



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Response to EFerrari (Reply #13)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 04:03 PM

20. That's exactly what this gay man thinks

Who gives a damn what someone's orientation is. I hate when either side uses Teh Geh as some kind of disqualifier. I certainly don't mind calling a hypocrite if he is, though.

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Response to EFerrari (Reply #13)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 01:22 AM

43. ++1000

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Response to McCamy Taylor (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 03:28 PM

14. Jeff Gannon isnt the one. I am positive. Well pretty sure. Well now that you say it. nm

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Response to McCamy Taylor (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 03:50 PM

16. Actually, EFerrari, I do care about it. What I care about is - can this be used to get rid of him?

In THAT case, I care about it a lot. I care about it as far as it might enable us to stoke flames of opposition against him. Wouldn't it be beautiful if that were to turn his own party against him?

It's like getting Al Capone for income tax evasion. Nobody could touch him on anything else that he did that was FAR more heinous and criminal. He somehow skated away from all of that. It was some side issue that finally sent him to prison. YES you couldn't be more spot-on about all the other shit kkkarl rove has perpetrated. He's got the dirtiest hands in DC. And he needs for justice to be served, several hundred thousand times over. Starting with at least 500 times, for every vote Al Gore got in Florida MORE than george w. bush, and proceeding from there. Whatever the mechanism or fine print or minor detail might be that finally takes him down - THAT'S what I care about. And frankly, I think it's HIGH time somebody on their side gets slimed with sex, BIGTIME. Because I can get firmly behind payback, too. All the others seem to be able to get away with it. Whatever happened to larry "wide stance" craig, for example? Whatever happened to john ensign? ANYTHING???? Besides the usual chorus of crickets chirping, that is? Taste of their own medicine. See how they like it. And I would LOVE to see some of kkkarl rove's own toxic methods turned back around on him. It would be a great service to this country.

I've said it many times before - I'm as machiavellian as the next guy. And I'm not one bit ashamed to admit it. I respect your principled stand on this, but as for me, I don't freakin' care what methods are used to nail one of the bad guys. All I care about is that the bad guy gets nailed!!!! NONE of those other absolutely true crimes you list on kkkarl rove's ignominious ledger have stuck to him. He's skated away from it all - to fame and wealth and tremendous power.

Nobody's luck holds out forever. I am a Democrat too. And I happen to believe we need a few of those demon schemers working FOR us and against the enemy, not against us and benefiting the enemy. I don't think our side does NEARLY enough. And we wind up getting rolled again and again and again. This is politics. It ain't Sunday school. And because we insist on arming ourselves with feather dusters when we're forced into a gun fight, we wind up taking it in the shorts most of the time. These guys are on a roll now. And they HAVE TO be stopped if we love our country and what it stands for and what we all grew up believing in, about our country.

WHATEVER hurts him, hobbles him, or knocks him the fuck OUT of the game and OUT of power and into obscurity and impotence for the rest of his miserable life - I'm all for.

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Response to calimary (Reply #16)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 04:08 PM

22. The thing is, that doesn't work on Republicans.

Aside from putting principle in jeopardy, it doesn't work. They rationalize whatever it is they attack us for when it is one of their own.

Because they don't really care about the issue, whatever it is -- being gay, having an abortion, being a person of color, whatever. Their goal is to attack and destroy in any way possible. Their minds don't work like ours do.

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Response to McCamy Taylor (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 03:52 PM

17. I care if self-hate about being gay has tied him to a party that hates gays.

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Response to McCamy Taylor (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 03:53 PM

18. I don't care if he is or isn't. He's still an asshole.

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Response to McCamy Taylor (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 03:56 PM

19. I wouldn't either except he's actively trying to elect people who hate gays and want to

do away with any of the rights they have achieved.

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Response to McCamy Taylor (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 04:07 PM

21. I care. Because it scares the homophobes that follow him and use him. nt

 

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Response to McCamy Taylor (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 04:12 PM

23. I don't care if he's gay

Doesn't make a single bit of difference.

Now, that he is a manipulator and a very bad person, that I care about.

Who he chooses to have sex with doesn't make one bit of difference, nor is it any of my business.

Though I will admit to a vague feeling of pity for anyone who would actually be intimate with a person like that.

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Response to McCamy Taylor (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 04:16 PM

24. It doesn't matter if he's gay - he's still an asshole.

 

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Response to McCamy Taylor (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 04:30 PM

25. I don't care either, but the Rethugs will.

And if it prevents one think dollar being contributed to Rove's Crossroads GPS super PAC, I say let the Thug vultures start circling Rove's political carcass.

Time to play hardball.

Bake

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Response to McCamy Taylor (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 04:39 PM

27. I feel sorry for ANY organism that has sex with Karl Rove

Straight, gay, bi, bi-curious, bi-monthly, male, female, human, reptile, amphibian, arachnid, any mammal that walks on all fours and those that don't.

I don't care...just like you...but I do feel sorry for the other organism(s) in the equation.

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Response to McCamy Taylor (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 04:43 PM

28. I thought they are saying he is Bisexual. I don't care, but I DO prefer accuracy.

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Response to McCamy Taylor (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 04:55 PM

29. Agree. But I'm still going to suggest that you go check the Rude Pundit archives for

the multitude of articles he wrote on what Rove kept in the WH basement.

Not for the squeamish, as usual...but prescient, in a way, and certainly funny.

On a more relevant point...there has long been the suspicion that Rove planted flyers around Texas intimating that the incumbent governor, Richards, was a lesbian. This could end up being added to the long, long list of republican hypocrisy....people in power who casually use fear and polarization to fundraise and GOTV while hiding aspects of their own lives that pertain to the issue. Sick...and not in a Rude Pundit way, but in a truly offensive and immoral way.

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Response to McCamy Taylor (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 05:06 PM

31. I Care About Neutralizing Rove As A Political Force.

And frankly, I'm not picky about how that result comes about......

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Response to McCamy Taylor (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 05:36 PM

33. exactly who gives a flying monkey's butt

about whether or not Rove is Gay, it's what he does outside of the 'bedroom' that matters and makes him a villainous creep

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Response to McCamy Taylor (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 05:48 PM

34. Well, I care if he's gay!

As a gay man, I would find him to be a disgrace to us self-respecting gay people!

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Response to ejbr (Reply #34)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 05:54 PM

36. Ditto that plus....

I am tired of closeted gay or bi-sexual men that advance and support policies that discriminate and HARM other gay men.

The hypocrisy is equal to any other crime he has committed. Whether it was an actual crime or not is irrelevant. I am tired of the Ted Haggards, the Ken Melmans, etc. They participate in a campaign of hatred and demonization against their own kind. The psychology of this is palpable.

Anyway....I am just sitting back and waiting to see how the sparks fly from this one. I do not yet know what legs this has but it will be fun to see...

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Response to McCamy Taylor (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 05:50 PM

35. I want KR to pay for what he has done to my country

his sexual orientation is not my concern. I already know he is a scumbag hypocrite that should be in prison.

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Response to McCamy Taylor (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 06:14 PM

39. It is offensive to have to think about his sex life.

Therefore, I am trashing the thread. It just grosses me out that someone is willing to do Karl Rove.

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Response to McCamy Taylor (Original post)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 02:34 AM

45. I found the bi-sexual bullshit offensive as hell but whatever....

Its just a message board. My life is not harmed by anonymous on-line homophobes. They can point and giggle and call him queer all day and feel superior and all it does is show middle-schoolish immaturity.

I know why I hate him and it has nothing to do with what he does with his penis. Who gives a shit?

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