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Wed Jun 27, 2012, 01:48 PM

Call for predicitons - SCOTUS healthcare vote

I think they will vote in a way that damages or kills it. What do you think?

Think about option 3. I actually think that is one possible outcome, not by design, but as an unintended consequence.

As always in these sorts of polls, tell us why you voted as you did.
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They will support it
3 (33%)
They will not support it
3 (33%)
They will set in motion a path to single payer
2 (22%)
Other
1 (11%)
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Reply Call for predicitons - SCOTUS healthcare vote (Original post)
Stinky The Clown Jun 2012 OP
Speck Tater Jun 2012 #1
morningfog Jun 2012 #2
cbdo2007 Jun 2012 #3
11 Bravo Jun 2012 #4
a kennedy Jun 2012 #5
MrSlayer Jun 2012 #6
CTyankee Jun 2012 #7
Stinky The Clown Jun 2012 #8
Motown_Johnny Jun 2012 #10
Motown_Johnny Jun 2012 #9
turtlerescue1 Jun 2012 #11
pampango Jun 2012 #17
TheKentuckian Jun 2012 #12
boxman15 Jun 2012 #13
Stinky The Clown Jun 2012 #14
boxman15 Jun 2012 #15
Motown_Johnny Jun 2012 #16

Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 02:02 PM

1. I'll tell you my prediction on Friday, O.K.? nt

 

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 02:33 PM

2. I predict it stands, in its entirety, with a closely divided court.

I think that is one of the reasons Scalia was such a whiny ass the other day. I predict it will be based on the interstate commerce clause.

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Response to morningfog (Reply #2)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 02:42 PM

3. I agree, I think the full law will stand.

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 02:45 PM

4. 5-4 overturning the mandate. (Scalia wants the whole thing shit-canned and has a shit hemorrhage ...

right there on the bench when he doesn't get his way.)

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 02:55 PM

5. That guy on MSNBC yesterday really convinced me it will be upheld in its entirety....

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 02:58 PM

6. Because the mandate is not a mandate it will stand.

 

7-2 it will stand with Scalia getting the two no votes. Roberts writes the majority opinion.

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Response to MrSlayer (Reply #6)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 04:01 PM

7. I want to believe that and I hope you are right. But part of me argues that these ideologues

on the Court are reckless to the extreme and they will stop at nothing to get rid of "Obamacare."
The RWingers on the Court are zealots and they are hellbent on destroying the Welfare State. They are relentless and cruel.

The only way I could imagine not overturning the mandate is a scenario where the insurance companies persuade the justices that an overthrow might likely lead to Single Payer and they would lose their industry and we would get socialized medicine faster. I can only hope that is indeed the case, even tho I would LOVE to see us have Single Payer.

I am taking a depressed view of what is going to happen tomorrow...

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Response to CTyankee (Reply #7)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 08:23 PM

8. "Zealot" is a perfect word to describe the court's right wing.

Scalia is clearly a political activist judge.

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Response to MrSlayer (Reply #6)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 08:31 PM

10. Alito, Thomas and Scalia are all political tools

and I don't see how we get any of their votes.

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 08:28 PM

9. They carve it up like a turkey on Thanksgiving

by striking down the mandate but leaving other parts in tact.


Then the fun begins.


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Response to Motown_Johnny (Reply #9)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 08:37 PM

11. Dat's my fear!

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Response to Motown_Johnny (Reply #9)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 06:36 AM

17. Agree. I think it's 5-4 to strike down the mandate (though the same majority

could strike down the whole thing). Then a public option or Medicare for all becomes the only constitutional ways to mandate coverage. That will obviously go no where in the House any time soon, but after the election, who knows.

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 08:45 PM

12. Fascist court upholds fascist mandate 6-3

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 09:05 PM

13. Court strikes down mandate 5-4

House Progressive Caucus proceeds to introduce single payer health care. It goes nowhere in the Tea Party House, but it slowly gains popularity in the public as Democrats go on the offensive in the ensuing weeks. Obama embraces the idea a few weeks before the election, and Democrats win back the House and keep the Senate as Obama beats Romney by a comfortable margin. Harry Reid changes the filibuster rule to only require 51 votes to pass anything. House Democrats proceed to pass a Medicare-for-all bill, which narrowly passes the Senate. Obama signs the bill, and Medicare-for-all is made a reality.

This is wishful thinking more than anything, of course.

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Response to boxman15 (Reply #13)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 09:07 PM

14. I actually think that's possible. A long, long shot. But possible.

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Reply #14)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 09:13 PM

15. A lot would have to go right, but I'd love to see it happen.

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Response to boxman15 (Reply #13)

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 06:25 AM

16. In an election year.... good luck with that.


We have House (D)s voting to hold the AG in contempt. You really think there is any shot at all that a single payer can get any traction now?


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