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Wed Jun 27, 2012, 05:41 AM

Photo of fire almost on top of the Air Force Academy. So this is what Armageddon looks like:



The football stadium is at the bottom.

I expect the Four Horseman to ride out of that any second now.




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Reply Photo of fire almost on top of the Air Force Academy. So this is what Armageddon looks like: (Original post)
Are_grits_groceries Jun 2012 OP
dipsydoodle Jun 2012 #1
DCBob Jun 2012 #2
liberal N proud Jun 2012 #12
ChairmanAgnostic Jun 2012 #22
Voice for Peace Jun 2012 #30
jwirr Jun 2012 #48
aquart Jun 2012 #52
malaise Jun 2012 #31
TheDebbieDee Jun 2012 #33
xchrom Jun 2012 #3
Scurrilous Jun 2012 #4
SkatmanRoth Jun 2012 #5
Turn CO Blue Jun 2012 #26
kestrel91316 Jun 2012 #34
hedgehog Jun 2012 #58
justgamma Jun 2012 #6
bupkus Jun 2012 #8
jwirr Jun 2012 #49
bupkus Jun 2012 #51
Brigid Jun 2012 #17
bupkus Jun 2012 #7
JHB Jun 2012 #9
Are_grits_groceries Jun 2012 #10
bupkus Jun 2012 #13
Are_grits_groceries Jun 2012 #14
bluedigger Jun 2012 #19
hack89 Jun 2012 #21
Are_grits_groceries Jun 2012 #24
bupkus Jun 2012 #50
bluedigger Jun 2012 #55
Marinedem Jun 2012 #60
bupkus Jun 2012 #61
SidDithers Jun 2012 #15
raouldukelives Jun 2012 #46
bupkus Jun 2012 #53
ChairmanAgnostic Jun 2012 #23
bupkus Jun 2012 #54
kestrel91316 Jun 2012 #35
bupkus Jun 2012 #62
malaise Jun 2012 #11
Crowman1979 Jun 2012 #16
cherokeeprogressive Jun 2012 #18
coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #29
Crowman1979 Jun 2012 #47
Marrah_G Jun 2012 #20
snot Jun 2012 #25
tkmorris Jun 2012 #37
snot Jun 2012 #63
Are_grits_groceries Jun 2012 #42
DearAbby Jun 2012 #27
Swede Jun 2012 #28
FarCenter Jun 2012 #43
thelordofhell Jun 2012 #57
cwydro Jun 2012 #32
rufus dog Jun 2012 #36
socialaidem Jun 2012 #38
nadinbrzezinski Jun 2012 #39
hlthe2b Jun 2012 #40
nadinbrzezinski Jun 2012 #41
hlthe2b Jun 2012 #44
Solly Mack Jun 2012 #45
Larkspur Jun 2012 #56
niyad Jun 2012 #59

Response to Are_grits_groceries (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 05:45 AM

1. Armageddon indeed.

Spooky.

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Response to Are_grits_groceries (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 05:50 AM

2. I know that area very well. Its one of the most beautiful places on earth.

maybe thats past tense at the moment.

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Response to DCBob (Reply #2)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 07:32 AM

12. All forest need fire to regenerate

Man has prevented forest fires for so long that once they burn, they really burn.

We were frequent visitors to Yellowstone and were in the park during the great fires of 1988. It looked like the park would burn completely to the ground. By the next year everything was green again and new trees began sprouting immediately. They were not the 100' tall specimens lost in the fire, but it was interesting watching those trees grow. Our oldest daughter was born the year before, we have pictures of her next to trees in Yellowstone from after the fire until she was in High School, they show who quickly the forest regenerates after these seemingly devastating events.

The biggest loss is the personal belongings and homes and of course in the extreme event, loss of life. That is the risk one takes living among such beauty, same as those living on the Gulf coast have dealt with the flooding this week.

Mother Nature still has the upper hand.

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Response to liberal N proud (Reply #12)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 09:06 AM

22. true

This allows certain species and seeds to replenish and become active again, and might, just might, point out that global climate change is not just for breakfast anymore.

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Response to liberal N proud (Reply #12)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 12:05 PM

30. was just talking with a forestry person about this

She works for the parks dept and she was describing the project
she's working on, where forests are being groomed and cut in
such a way that there's less deadwood to burn, and more breaks in the
forest, so fires must slow down and become easier to contain.

She was emphasizing the importance of the fires, but as you
were saying, there's just too much there waiting to ignite.
My daughter was "pre-evacuated" from her neighborhood in
Boulder because the fire there was threatening.. it just had
started with a bolt of lightening.

Some of the forest creatures even eat the burned parts
of the forest. When the grasses etc. come back after a big
burn, lots of little critters move in, there is lots of food for
hunting birds, and more..
And NM is a fire trap.

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Response to Voice for Peace (Reply #30)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 02:27 PM

48. One of our family members was evacuated the first day. Haven't heard if his house is gone. He just

made it out.

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Response to jwirr (Reply #48)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 02:37 PM

52. Even if his house is fine...

There's danger to his health in the ash and the stress. Evacuation takes a heavy toll on people and pets. Especially anyone with underlying health issues.

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Response to liberal N proud (Reply #12)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 12:06 PM

31. True but that very mild winter hasn't helped here n/t

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Response to liberal N proud (Reply #12)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 12:15 PM

33. I remember reading an article in the early 90s that detailed how, months after the fire

scientists were surprised to find species of plants that weren't present in those same areas before the fire.

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Response to Are_grits_groceries (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 05:55 AM

3. Wow. Nt

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Response to Are_grits_groceries (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 06:02 AM

4. Wow!

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Response to Are_grits_groceries (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 06:09 AM

5. It might be closer to what the results of global warming look like

The changing weather patterns have disrupted the normal rainfall patterns. Long dry spells increase the opportunity for wild fires. The 'weather weirding' we are experiencing can be traced to human activities.

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Response to SkatmanRoth (Reply #5)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 11:28 AM

26. I was thinking the pine beetle infestation has some bearing

on this - as for years now the pine beetle has been turning our forests into dry, dry, kindling.

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Response to Turn CO Blue (Reply #26)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 12:39 PM

34. The pine beetle is a big problem now BECAUSE so many trees are weakened by years of poor rainfall

and extreme heat/lack of enough winter cold. It normally doesn't kill anywhere near this many trees - it's a normal part of the ecosystem and not anything new. What's new is how many trees have been weakened, allowing the beetle to get the upper hand.

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Response to Are_grits_groceries (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 06:21 AM

6. Someone should stand Mittens

in front of this background and play his tape where he says he wants to fire the firefighters.

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Response to bupkus (Reply #8)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 02:30 PM

49. We could furnish him with a Mission Accomplished sign to hold up.

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Response to justgamma (Reply #6)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 08:08 AM

17. Yes, that would be perfect.

The next Obama campaign ad.

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Response to bupkus (Reply #7)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 07:15 AM

9. To accomdate crowds watching their football team, I'm pretty sure

It's not exactly the Superdome, but when game attendance hits the tens of thousands, you do need a place to put everybody.

I don't know about the relative sizes, but that doesn't look like the best angle to judge. I don't see the academy's chapel, which is pretty distinctive, so that view doesn't show everything.

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Response to bupkus (Reply #7)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 07:20 AM

10. The US Military Academy, The Naval Academy, and The Air Force Academy all have D1 football teams.

The cadets play at Michie Stadium. The midshipmen play at the Navy-Marine Corps Stadium.
They have many teams for both men and women in many sports. Many of them are varsity sports and compete in NCAA events.

This is considered part of the collegiate experince as well as a great recruiting tool. I have no problem with it. The students who compete carry a staggering academic load as well as their athletic schedule. Choosing to attend these institutions should not deprive them of this experience.








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Response to bupkus (Reply #13)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 07:57 AM

14. The athletic departments pay for the sports scholarships.

In addition, FB revenue and donations to athletics pay for mamy non-revenue sports.


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Response to Are_grits_groceries (Reply #14)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 08:27 AM

19. There are no sports scholarships at military academies.

Once accepted, all student expenses are paid for by the government, to be reimbursed by the graduates in service to their country.

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Response to bluedigger (Reply #19)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 09:02 AM

21. But their sports still bring in revenue.

which in turn in used to support student sports.

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Response to bluedigger (Reply #19)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 09:13 AM

24. Thanks.

I should have been specific. The military academies are different.


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Response to bupkus (Reply #50)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 02:41 PM

55. I think you know better.

And if you are really serious that you have no idea how sports relate to the military, then we have no common language available to continue the conversation.

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Response to bupkus (Reply #50)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 04:00 PM

60. My God, what am I reading?

 

All expense paid vacation? ONLY service?

You honestly think four years at one of the toughest schools in the nation is a vacation?

I don't even have words for the "service" comment.

What the hell does Rutgers have to do with the Academy teams?

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Response to bupkus (Reply #13)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 07:59 AM

15. ...



Sid

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Response to bupkus (Reply #13)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 02:24 PM

46. Why do you hate recess activities?

If we want the pinnacle of educational achievement in this country to be a Doctorate of Recess, If we wish to chart our advancement as a species by the skill level of football, basketball or kick the can its our damn right.

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Response to Are_grits_groceries (Reply #10)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 09:07 AM

23. don't forget their religious indoctrination, too.

On top of the rest of that stuff.

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Response to bupkus (Reply #7)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 12:40 PM

35. For their football team. It IS a university, you know.

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Response to Are_grits_groceries (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 07:24 AM

11. Frightening

Rmoney may fire some more firefighters now

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Response to Are_grits_groceries (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 08:00 AM

16. Either that or god is pissed off at the Talebangelicals harassing their fellow cadets.

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Response to Crowman1979 (Reply #16)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 08:18 AM

18. This post took waaay longer than I thought it would.

Here's your gold star...

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Response to Crowman1979 (Reply #16)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 11:32 AM

29. Someone reported on another thread that Freepers are speculating that

 

God has 'withdrawn his protection' from the Air Force Academy b/c of the military's repeal of DADT.

I swear, you can't make this shit up!

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Response to coalition_unwilling (Reply #29)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 02:27 PM

47. WTF?!?!

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Response to Are_grits_groceries (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 08:36 AM

20. It's getting nuts out there

I was listening to a phone call at a friends last night as she tried to convince her sister to evacuate before it became to late. Apparently the roads are clogged and the fire is moving all over. Then the call dropped and her sister texted that they were being asked to limit cell use in the areas. Really scary!

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Response to Are_grits_groceries (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 11:23 AM

25. Great photo! Did you shoot it?

If not, source?

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Response to snot (Reply #25)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 12:49 PM

37. I see your point

Photo via Twitter user @FSUKilroy. I'm not the OP but accreditation should be given.

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Response to tkmorris (Reply #37)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 06:09 PM

63. Thanks! Me too.

Even more impt. re- factual political statements, of course.

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Response to Are_grits_groceries (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 11:29 AM

27. OMG

Where is Pike's Peak? I had always loved that stretch of road...I-25 going alongside the Academy. Always viewed it as God's paradise. (no pun intended) Our beautiful state is ablaze.

It looks like a volcano.

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Response to Are_grits_groceries (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 11:31 AM

28. Cue the Wagner!

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Response to Swede (Reply #28)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 03:05 PM

57. Cue The Mussorgsky!!

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Response to Are_grits_groceries (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 12:13 PM

32. Scary pic

I'm terrified of fire.

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Response to Are_grits_groceries (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 12:47 PM

36. As scary as this picture is,

A nighttime shot would be much worse. The fire looks like it is on top of you at night.

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Response to Are_grits_groceries (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 12:51 PM

38. wow

This is worse than the fires back a few years ago in CA. I remember it raining ash on me.

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Response to Are_grits_groceries (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 12:52 PM

39. That photo is both beautiful and terrifying

WOW.

And from this the forest will come back.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #39)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 12:53 PM

40. Not in our lifetimes... Old growth forests take many decades.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #40)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 12:53 PM

41. That's ok, I do have that long view

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #41)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 01:05 PM

44. To long life....

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Response to Are_grits_groceries (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 01:39 PM

45. I used to live in CS. We had fires while I was living there - just not this bad.

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Response to Are_grits_groceries (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 02:46 PM

56. This picture reminds me of the scene of Mordor

from Lord of the Rings movie, except in the movie it was a volcano erupting and spewing an ash cloud.

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Response to Are_grits_groceries (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2012, 03:14 PM

59. watching this from my front door, not ordered to evacuate yet. has been very eerie.

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