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Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 03:14 PM Jan 2017

"Republicans dont have the quorum needed to move forward...." BWAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

Senate Democrats Boycott Key Votes On 2 Top Trump Nominees
Republicans don’t have the quorum needed to move forward.
01/31/2017 10:44 am ET | Updated 32 minutes ago

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/senate-democrats-boycott_us_5890ae26e4b0c90eff001c3c?

WASHINGTON ― Senate Democrats deployed a dramatic eleventh-hour maneuver to deny committee votes to two of President Donald Trump’s Cabinet picks Tuesday, arguing that those nominees had lied to them.

Senators on the Finance Committee were set to vote on Rep. Tom Price (R-Ga.) to lead the Department of Health and Human Services and Steve Mnuchin to lead the Treasury Department. But on Tuesday morning, they simply didn’t show up for the votes, denying Republicans the quorum they needed to move forward toward confirmation. At least one Democrat needs to be present for the vote to happen.

Explaining the boycott, Finance Committee ranking member Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) said the two nominees “misled the public and held back important information about their backgrounds.”

With their plans to quickly confirm Trump’s nominees upended, Senate Republicans were outraged, suggesting even that they’d consider changing committee rules to eliminate the need for a minority member to be present.
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"Republicans dont have the quorum needed to move forward...." BWAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! (Original Post) Miles Archer Jan 2017 OP
Make 'em change the rules. CincyDem Jan 2017 #1
The Democrats need to walk away from this clean. Miles Archer Jan 2017 #3
+1 nt ProudProgressiveNow Jan 2017 #13
Make sure you're calling in - to reinforce their backbones! calimary Jan 2017 #36
I've been raising the importance of these calls with everyone, including casual conversations at JudyM Feb 2017 #56
And don't forget the Indivisible Guide. calimary Feb 2017 #57
Good idea, I will add that in, too! JudyM Feb 2017 #58
You state it cilla4progress Feb 2017 #74
Thank you. All we have is each other now. And we all know it. JudyM Feb 2017 #85
Where are you located? I'm in London now, but keep Alice11111 Feb 2017 #87
Not seeing the number? cilla4progress Feb 2017 #75
+ 1 red dog 1 Jan 2017 #37
you are correct, but i will not hold my breath.n/t yodermon Jan 2017 #6
Exactly. No more collaborating. It does no good. And you look like a sellout Nay Jan 2017 #34
they did change the rules and Mnuchin, Price got thru committee wordpix Feb 2017 #77
KnR Hekate Jan 2017 #2
Please, IKGOPR*, spare Americans your incessant, unjustified whining, gnashing of teeth BS Achilleaze Jan 2017 #4
Fuck 'em. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2017 #5
It gave Orrin Hatch a case of the vapors (same link as my OP) Miles Archer Jan 2017 #9
2 words Orrin: Merrick Garland. muntrv Jan 2017 #14
And, Tom Daschle, Bill Richardson, Van Jones, GoCubsGo Jan 2017 #22
Every time I see Daschle's name louis-t Jan 2017 #29
lest we never forget wordpix Feb 2017 #78
And two more words Orrin: hypocritical piece of shit... Raster Jan 2017 #27
No, Oran Hatch 2 words: gopiscrap Jan 2017 #28
You should see the Orrin Hatch twitter page! calimary Jan 2017 #48
Wow! That was truly cathartic! n/t Tatiana Feb 2017 #60
+1 uponit7771 Feb 2017 #68
Fuck you, Orrin. 3catwoman3 Jan 2017 #16
Yea, Orrin. They WERE honorable and decent, and you lot took advantage of that for 8 years. Blaukraut Jan 2017 #26
They didnt VOW to obstruct Obama, They did. And treated Obama shamelessly Old Vet Jan 2017 #10
+100 narnian60 Jan 2017 #20
+10000000000000000 ailsagirl Jan 2017 #32
Yep. Fuck em Alice11111 Feb 2017 #65
You are so behind these awful picks then go ahead back it up and change the rules. #AllOnYou TrekLuver Jan 2017 #7
they changed the rules---Price & Mnuchin approved without D's present wordpix Feb 2017 #79
Wish they would have done that with DeVos. haele Jan 2017 #8
+100 narnian60 Jan 2017 #21
In london flat &news deprived. OMG, was she confirmed? Alice11111 Feb 2017 #66
Do not go quietly into that good night Jersey Devil Jan 2017 #11
Theyneed to be careful doing that. What is good for the goose is good for the gander. AgadorSparticus Jan 2017 #12
Like they good have been worse. Totally unethical, often illegal, Alice11111 Feb 2017 #61
Would it be possible and workable for Dems to do this the entire session? fescuerescue Jan 2017 #15
Nope! red dog 1 Jan 2017 #39
its called calvin ball. or CHEATING. pansypoo53219 Jan 2017 #17
Oohhhh, outraged they are, were, ....whatever Augiedog Jan 2017 #18
Well since none of theses SOB's DK504 Jan 2017 #19
Quorum! What the Sam Hill is a QUORUM!? TrollBuster9090 Jan 2017 #23
Finally showing some guts for a change... BlueJac Jan 2017 #24
We've already lost the Republic Generic Brad Jan 2017 #54
!!! Alice11111 Feb 2017 #62
More than one way to get the job done Sarabi Jan 2017 #25
Awesome wryter2000 Jan 2017 #30
Oriin, I might try to take you seriously DonCoquixote Jan 2017 #31
+ 1 million! red dog 1 Jan 2017 #40
GOP violated the Constitution with Merrick Garland. raging moderate Feb 2017 #71
HOW DARE THE DEMOCRATS NOT ALLOW A VOTE ON A NOMINEE!!!! THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!!!! toddwv Jan 2017 #33
If we can get the Senate back, it could be only 2 years Alice11111 Feb 2017 #63
I honestly think that one of the houses will switch hands. toddwv Feb 2017 #82
Obstruct! Delay! Obstruct! ALL FED COURT Appts for 2 years Alice11111 Feb 2017 #86
Get thee to the Greatest thread! ffr Jan 2017 #35
Sloth like movement... 404usernamenotfound Jan 2017 #38
Welcome to DU! red dog 1 Jan 2017 #42
thanks for the welcome 404usernamenotfound Jan 2017 #46
The trouble is that there are so few "middle GOP folks" in either the Senate or the House. red dog 1 Jan 2017 #50
Whoever thought that Lindsey Graham would be Repub moderate Alice11111 Feb 2017 #64
Cojones, anyone???? lindysalsagal Jan 2017 #41
Because they're seeing us in the streets; we've got their backs. ffr Jan 2017 #43
... Alice11111 Feb 2017 #67
Way to go Dems! red dog 1 Jan 2017 #44
K&R... spanone Jan 2017 #45
Fuck the GOP, Dems should be doing this in every committee mountain grammy Jan 2017 #47
hear, hear!!! Stellar Jan 2017 #49
It's about time that Senate Dems found their spines. BlueWI Jan 2017 #51
Play to win! About time we did it. GOP deserves nothing less after their obstructionism over the nikibatts Jan 2017 #52
Everyday we drag this out is a day we win. wildeyed Jan 2017 #53
. Rex Jan 2017 #55
wow. Lowlife people, all of them. BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2017 #59
K! Cha Feb 2017 #69
I thought Senate rules could only be changed by simple majority on the first day Mc Mike Feb 2017 #70
How's it feel, fuckers??? rocktivity Feb 2017 #72
Senate GOP Bypasses Dem Boycott of Mnuchin, Price By Suspending Rules IronLionZion Feb 2017 #73
DEPLORABLE wordpix Feb 2017 #80
Well, they own it. SharonAnn Feb 2017 #81
Oh please do, you'll own the shit lock stock and barrel. onecaliberal Feb 2017 #76
Serves the pubs right..payback time townie Feb 2017 #83
Lie, Cheat and Steal---more Doitnow Feb 2017 #84

CincyDem

(6,332 posts)
1. Make 'em change the rules.
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 03:15 PM
Jan 2017


there is no point to sitting out if they're just going to go in a few days later and say "well...we were just kidding".

let them go nuclear, it's not like the outcome is going to change. It's just whose names will be on the collaborators list.

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
3. The Democrats need to walk away from this clean.
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 03:18 PM
Jan 2017

Last edited Tue Jan 31, 2017, 04:05 PM - Edit history (2)

I agree with you...the Republicans will do whatever they can get away with doing, and they will own it.

I just want to see a 100% absence of Democratic "enablers."

This is "stand your ground" time. This is what should happen for the next four years, especially when it comes to gutting Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid.

calimary

(81,085 posts)
36. Make sure you're calling in - to reinforce their backbones!
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 06:25 PM
Jan 2017

TOLL FREE Capitol Hill switchboard numbers conveniently located in my sig line below.

JudyM

(29,181 posts)
56. I've been raising the importance of these calls with everyone, including casual conversations at
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 12:01 AM
Feb 2017

the local sandwich shop. People are super engaged. I've never seen such community-wide cohesion about anything, ever. In a backward way, this coup is galvanizing our society far more than it's dividing it. It's just showing the fault lines that have always been there.

calimary

(81,085 posts)
57. And don't forget the Indivisible Guide.
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 12:36 AM
Feb 2017
https://www.indivisibleguide.com

At the March in downtown L.A., I think I must have had at least four conversations with other marchers in which I brought up the Indivisible Guide, and they had not heard of it. When I did, they were quite interested.

And I'd repeat it. "'The Indivisible Guide.' You know, like 'one nation, indivisible, with liberty and' blah-blah-blah (followed by a chuckle)." Try to repeat the name. That's why I throw in a reference to something familiar that's easy to remember, in and of itself. Associating it with something familiar makes it easier to remember.

cilla4progress

(24,712 posts)
74. You state it
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 11:42 AM
Feb 2017

Last edited Thu Feb 2, 2017, 08:30 AM - Edit history (1)

Perfectly! Not to be a pollyanna, but here's a silver lining!

I wake up many mornings, grab my phone, and call my reps to cajole or thank!

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
87. Where are you located? I'm in London now, but keep
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 01:11 PM
Feb 2017

telling people to call. I've done the same, but now from here I'm writing. Calling is much better

Nay

(12,051 posts)
34. Exactly. No more collaborating. It does no good. And you look like a sellout
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 06:15 PM
Jan 2017

every time even if you do have some kind of long game. At this juncture, no Democrat can afford to look like a sellout EVER. The base is really riled up.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
4. Please, IKGOPR*, spare Americans your incessant, unjustified whining, gnashing of teeth BS
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 03:21 PM
Jan 2017

This is right out of your own rotten playbook of the last 8 years.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,574 posts)
5. Fuck 'em.
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 03:21 PM
Jan 2017

After Obama was elected in '08 the GOPers vowed to oppose and obstruct everything he did.

Karma's a mo'fo', isn't it?

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
9. It gave Orrin Hatch a case of the vapors (same link as my OP)
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 03:32 PM
Jan 2017
“This is one of the most alarming things I’ve seen in my 40 years in the U.S. Senate,” Finance Committee Chair Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) said in the hearing Tuesday. “There isn’t a fellow on the other side I do not care for. Normally they’re very honorable and decent people. That’s why it’s so shocking to me that they’re not here when we’ve given them every opportunity to be here. ... That’s not only ridiculous, it’s offensive.”

“I think they ought to stop posturing and acting like idiots,” he added. “Stop holding news conferences and come here and express yourself here and vote one way or the other.”


GoCubsGo

(32,073 posts)
22. And, Tom Daschle, Bill Richardson, Van Jones,
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 04:42 PM
Jan 2017

Desiree Rogers, and dozens of judicial and other nominees.

louis-t

(23,266 posts)
29. Every time I see Daschle's name
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 05:28 PM
Jan 2017

I think of fucking Newt Gingrich and the way he insisted repug assholes say "obstructionist Daschle" every time they mentioned him.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
27. And two more words Orrin: hypocritical piece of shit...
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 05:00 PM
Jan 2017

...oh wait, that's four. The sentiment is still the same. I believe Hatch plans on retiring after this term is up. I also believe that insufferable little chickenshit Chaffetz has his eye on the seat. I am *ALMOST* tempted to move to Utah just so I can vote AGAINST the insufferable little chickenshit.

calimary

(81,085 posts)
48. You should see the Orrin Hatch twitter page!
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 07:06 PM
Jan 2017




Post after post after post after post following his whiny sniveling about how Democrats are so unfair!!! Post after post after post after post says "Merrick Garland"!

It's a truly fun and energizing read!

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
65. Yep. Fuck em
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 04:44 AM
Feb 2017

For me it's not just pay back. These nominees will continue to destroy country, for years to come.
Pay back is just collateral benefit.

haele

(12,635 posts)
8. Wish they would have done that with DeVos.
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 03:31 PM
Jan 2017

Guess they didn't think the DoE was as important as HHS and Treasury, or that her shortcomings weren't as venally corrupt as theirs were.

Haele

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
66. In london flat &news deprived. OMG, was she confirmed?
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 04:49 AM
Feb 2017

Have no TV, and w partners family, so missed that.
She and Oklahoma earthquake advocate were among the worst.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
61. Like they good have been worse. Totally unethical, often illegal,
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 04:30 AM
Feb 2017

corrupt to the core. It's not tit for tat. These people need to be opposed because they will destroy the country. The fact that they get some of their own medicine is just a collateral benefit.
Let them drown in their bile.

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
15. Would it be possible and workable for Dems to do this the entire session?
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 04:01 PM
Jan 2017

i.e. Just not show up the whole 2 years?

This would pretty much block any action out of Congress.

"I'see you your Merrick Garland, and raise you Congress!"

This would force Trump to do everything via executive order.

red dog 1

(27,757 posts)
39. Nope!
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 06:47 PM
Jan 2017

(From the OP)
"Senate Republicans were outraged, suggesting even that they'd consider changing committee rules to eliminate the need for a minority member to be present."

DK504

(3,847 posts)
19. Well since none of theses SOB's
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 04:34 PM
Jan 2017

have bothered to fill out any of the mandatory paperwork for their positions nor have been vetted by the FBI.

Seems Comey is watching cat videos again.

Generic Brad

(14,272 posts)
54. We've already lost the Republic
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 11:57 PM
Jan 2017

But at least we go down fighting for truth, justice, and the American way.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
31. Oriin, I might try to take you seriously
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 05:36 PM
Jan 2017

If youn called your party out for violating the Hatch act with Mr. Comey.

raging moderate

(4,292 posts)
71. GOP violated the Constitution with Merrick Garland.
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 10:30 AM
Feb 2017

The President "SHALL" appoint...with the advice and consent...of the Senate. "Shall" adds an imperative tone in this context. And the Republicans advised us that they had nothing against Merrick Garland.

toddwv

(2,830 posts)
33. HOW DARE THE DEMOCRATS NOT ALLOW A VOTE ON A NOMINEE!!!! THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!!!!
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 05:41 PM
Jan 2017

Just another case of Republicans setting the precedent and then complaining when it is used against them.

Here's hoping for 4 years of shutting down nominees.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
63. If we can get the Senate back, it could be only 2 years
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 04:36 AM
Feb 2017

If the Republicans could obstruct for 8, surely the Dems can do 2.
Keep the pressure on their phones. Otherwise, they will let up.
We also need to target Ryan and turtleman, chavetz in elections. Repubs are already targeting Warren. They are so much better at laying the ground work with fake News, etc. We must get better

toddwv

(2,830 posts)
82. I honestly think that one of the houses will switch hands.
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 01:37 PM
Feb 2017

Can't be certain in uncertain times but the honeymoon is already over.

I would prefer the Senate, but think it's a loftier goal since Democrats have 33 seats up for reelection to the 8 that is likely for the Republicans. Still any gain should be welcomed...

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
86. Obstruct! Delay! Obstruct! ALL FED COURT Appts for 2 years
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 01:08 PM
Feb 2017

or we will be stuck with these RW decisions for 40 years.
The Republicans have done that 8 years!!!
We have to do it as much as possible. Sen Udall released a good statement today.
I called my Senators and told them I expected more than a vote. I wanted them to fight like hell until their last dying breath.
We will lose some, even if we fight. We will lose ALL if we continue to let the Republicans run right over us like they did often to Obama or any other Democrats.
They don't care about the law, ethics,or any of the religious bs they preach. They just want to steamroller their agenda and bring in the bucks from lobbiests.

That's what Trump's simmering smug smile says, fuck you, dems, I'm doing it! Unfortunately, he is. Let's not make it easy for him.

ffr

(22,665 posts)
35. Get thee to the Greatest thread!
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 06:19 PM
Jan 2017

This is how we do it.

Grassroots support for democracy, aka Democrats and them knowing we have their backs.

Fight fire with fire.

 
38. Sloth like movement...
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 06:31 PM
Jan 2017

...but they are slowly slowly slowly inching away from him. Once something YUUUGEEEE comes out, they will scatter like roaches and he is toast.

red dog 1

(27,757 posts)
42. Welcome to DU!
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 06:56 PM
Jan 2017

However, in my opinion, your statement "but they are slowly slowly inching away from him" is not the case....(I wish it were true).

The only GOP senators who have even REMOTELY expressed any willingness to stand up to Trump are John McCain, Susan Collins, and Lindsey Graham...and even they are not likely to vote against any of Trump's cabinet picks.

 
46. thanks for the welcome
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 07:05 PM
Jan 2017

But I am optimistic that hour-by-hour more and more of them are waiting on him to step on his own dick and then nail him. No one wants to be the leader in this as they are worried about re-election. In their minds, if Trump is "right" (pun intended, I think...) they will alienate their base.

Part of me wants Trump to do something absolutely way way way right and so fucking wacky so that some of these middle GOP folks finally have enough and turn on him. Unfortunately that way way way right and so fucking wacky thing may doom us all...

red dog 1

(27,757 posts)
50. The trouble is that there are so few "middle GOP folks" in either the Senate or the House.
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 07:41 PM
Jan 2017

We all need to remember who we're dealing with here.

A U.S. Senate with virtually no "moderates" left..(unless you consider Susan Collins a moderate)
and a U.S. House of Representatives with maybe a small handful of "moderates" (fewer than 10)

Also, the number 3 man in the United States Government, House Speaker Eddie Munster, is a guy who wants to privatize Social Security & Medicare.

Also, the number 4 man in the US Govt. is Mitch "Turtle" McConnell...who has proven for the past several years that ANY compromise with Senate Democrats is "out of the question."

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
64. Whoever thought that Lindsey Graham would be Repub moderate
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 04:40 AM
Feb 2017

He hasn't changed. The Repubs are just crazy extreme RW, and get worse and worse.

ffr

(22,665 posts)
43. Because they're seeing us in the streets; we've got their backs.
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 06:58 PM
Jan 2017
Senator Tim Kaine: Public Outcry Will Help Democrats Do Their Jobs Better - Morning Joe MSNBC
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017421914

Thx LongTomH

red dog 1

(27,757 posts)
44. Way to go Dems!
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 07:00 PM
Jan 2017

I just wish this type of action could actually result in a BLOCK of a Trump nominee, instead of merely postponing the inevitable confirmations of all Trump cabinet nominees.

K&R

mountain grammy

(26,598 posts)
47. Fuck the GOP, Dems should be doing this in every committee
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 07:06 PM
Jan 2017

and voting no on every single one of batshit's nominees.

Kirsten Gillibrand. The only Democratic Senator with the guts to do it..

 

nikibatts

(2,198 posts)
52. Play to win! About time we did it. GOP deserves nothing less after their obstructionism over the
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 10:02 PM
Jan 2017

last 8 years.

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
53. Everyday we drag this out is a day we win.
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 10:51 PM
Jan 2017

Resist and slow the process. Everyday his popularity erodes a tiny bit, the jobs do not materialize, we get a day closer to midterms and a day closer to impeachment.

Plus it give voters a chance to catch up on WTF is going on. They will notice that the national parks are being sold at a discount to campaign supporters while they are creating diversions with immigration, etc.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
59. wow. Lowlife people, all of them.
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 01:32 AM
Feb 2017

*Tsk*...... wow. I hope some of them on the inside start waking up! It's truly mass insanity moral decay.

Ironic.

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