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bigtree

(85,986 posts)
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 11:13 AM Dec 2016

Lots of talk about the ethical and legal violations w/Trump finances, less about propriety



Most Americans couldn't fathom throwing money around like the Trumps, much less flaunt it the way that family does. There's going to be a point where even their most delusional supporters, imagining that Trump is going to make them wealthy, as well, are no longer going to be able to stomach the garishness of the first family, as working-class folks struggle to provide for their basic needs.

I was thinking about this as I read where the Trump sons who make sport out of killing threatened animals, were offering a chance for some average Joe or Jill to accompany them on a hunt, for a mere $500,000 to $1 million.

___Donors willing to write a check for $500,000 to $1 million would be granted access to Donald J. Trump the day after he is sworn in as president, along with the opportunity to participate in a multiday hunting or fishing trip with his oldest sons, Donald Jr. and Eric.


Once this got out the sons backed off from the hunting trip, but the event is still scheduled, no doubt finding more than a few donors willing to pay and play.

Trump and his family can dodge accountability under the law. When they get caught, they just pay their relatively paltry fines and move on. Yet, most Americans can't begin to operate their financial affairs with the impunity the Trumps enjoy.

Most of our elected officials are wealthy. If they're not when they get to Washington, they soon will be, if they learn how to network their influence out into the corporate world.

Harry Truman was quoted saying: "You can't get rich in politics unless you're a crook." Great deal of truth there.

In his 1960 book, Mr. Citizen, Mr. Truman reflected on his refusal to accept the numerous corporate offers, even though he famously struggled to maintain his income when he left the presidency:

"I turned down all of those offers. I knew that they were not interested in hiring Harry Truman, the person, but what they wanted to hire was the former President of the United States. I could never lend myself to any transaction, however respectable, that would commercialize on the prestige and the dignity of the office of the Presidency."


Trump comes into office spinning off of a lifetime of privilege with virtually no substantial effort made which most Americans would understand as charitable or altruistic. Trump has no civic experience; no local government involvement; no political internships; and operates a 'charity' foundation which looks and functions like his personal slush fund.

It shouldn't surprise anyone to find this is the way he'll operate as president. He'll lead with his self-interest, all the while, insisting what's best for him is what's best for the rest of us, as he has throughout the campaign. He has zero experience in governance, but that's not his goal. He's coming to the WH to consolidate every measure or expenditure contributing to the public good he can manage, and squeeze and funnel whatever resources he can find into his golden chalice, with a miserly pittance devoted to measures benefiting the majority of us.

...and I go back to Harry Truman (1945), for contrast:

"The people will not go back to the day when their destinies were controlled by tight little groups of selfish men who made their policies in secret and exercised economic control over millions of people," he said.


Jesus, Harry, look at us now. I'm waiting for the country to get to the point of anger and resentment over these elitist grifters feathering their privileged nests with our taxes (which Trump boasts of avoiding), and assumedly, every other decision he makes in office, while most of us scramble to pay our basic bills.
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Lots of talk about the ethical and legal violations w/Trump finances, less about propriety (Original Post) bigtree Dec 2016 OP
Applies to both parties metroins Dec 2016 #1
there is no comparison to what we're set to experience bigtree Dec 2016 #2
I don't want to attack Democrats metroins Dec 2016 #3
this is about the office of the presidency bigtree Dec 2016 #4
» bigtree Dec 2016 #5

bigtree

(85,986 posts)
2. there is no comparison to what we're set to experience
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 11:21 AM
Dec 2016

...with this particular 'billionaire,' just based on what's occurred so far, not even projecting into the predictably calamitous future.

metroins

(2,550 posts)
3. I don't want to attack Democrats
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 11:30 AM
Dec 2016

But we have the same problem.

I can't bash Trump for money or making money when I haven't held our own accountable.

I'll just leave it at that.

bigtree

(85,986 posts)
4. this is about the office of the presidency
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 11:44 AM
Dec 2016

...no reason that shouldn't get priority, but it's not as if we need to choose one over the other, much less wait for some politician you think is corrupt to change before we confront Trump.

You lost me there. The presidency represents one of the singular branches of our government. I daresay, that office is imminently more immediately consequential in his hands, than is Congress's role in our government.

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